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  • Originally posted by SilvrFoxX View Post
    For the price it is.. we have all been down the path of comparing it to EVOs and WRX/STI, they are quicker and more capable but no where as near as nice a place to be.

    You then look at the Euro equivalents and the numbers no longer make sense.. Audi S3, M135i you start in the late 60s and then well into the 80/90s before it hits the road.

    You can call it defensive but we have all arrived here because at the time there was nothing close to what it had to offer for the money both in quality and performance

    18 months seems such a short time for some to tire of something.. maybe I just work harder to appreciate things more
    I was referring to the handling, feedback and driver involvement.

    I love the car to bits. But I am not one eyed enough to think that it is the best car on the road. It was the best car for me, at the price I had to spend.

    The Megane is the better handling, better driving car on twisty roads. But it is not as good in day to day activities, and doesn't feel as durable. It wasn't right for me, the Golf R was. But it is a better car in some ways. Just as the R is a better car than it in some ways.

    Next car? Maybe a Mk VII Golf R. Maybe a boring second hand diesel Skoda VRS and a mid 80s Audi Quattro. Who knows. I have about a year left on my lease and I'll think about it then.

    I'm only a young guy who worked hard from when he was 18 - full time work, full time study. I'm co-owner of a business. Every cent I earn is as a result of what I do and working long hours to get ahead. Don't give me the bull**** about appreciating things.
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    • Originally posted by SilvrFoxX View Post
      Love the not so hidden sales
      Now while you are floating about have you made any further progress on the stage 1 tune or have the Viezu boys caught up and I have to listen to Candyman tell me how an internet download can kick my custom tune to the kurb
      Let them dream, the next dyno day is in February isn't it ?. They aren't near ours yet as far as I'm concerned and from what's been posted anywhere....

      The thing to think about is this. Above the level your cars at it begins to run into some physical restrictions so the choice for tuner is to either ignore all the warning bells and just go for it or do you remove the restrictions and continue. ? I can use your car as an experiment if you wish

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      • Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
        Let them dream, the next dyno day is in February isn't it ?. They aren't near ours yet as far as I'm concerned and from what's been posted anywhere....

        The thing to think about is this. Above the level your cars at it begins to run into some physical restrictions so the choice for tuner is to either ignore all the warning bells and just go for it or do you remove the restrictions and continue. ? I can use your car as an experiment if you wish
        It'd be DNA I'd be watching for

        I'd be keen to get mine on the same Dyno. I saw good gains with/without tune (158 vs 187) but this was a place in Newcastle that no one else really has used apart.
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        • Golf R Observations and Questions

          Originally posted by Ideo View Post
          It'd be DNA I'd be watching for

          I'd be keen to get mine on the same Dyno. I saw good gains with/without tune (158 vs 187) but this was a place in Newcastle that no one else really has used apart.
          True, mind you, haven't heard Viezu or DNA turn out any doughy tunes that belch smoke as yet unlike some. Must be the summer heat eh
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          • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
            True, mind you, haven't heard Viezu or DNA turn out any doughy tunes that belch smoke as yet unlike some. Must be the summer heat eh
            True, but both would be coughing behind in that doughy tune smoke
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            • They all will belch out smoke even when stock due to oil build up, punch it a few times and all the oil will be burnt off and it will smoke no more. Find a good sweeping right hand bend that you can accelerate hard from 60 to 140 or so and you will see what I mean.
              For a tune that at its richest touches an 11.8:1 AFR ( a figure that I choose/set) at full load above 6000rpm It is impossible to call it rich and in any event I'd much rather it be rich than lean
              I know your only stirring of course

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              • Yeah I applied the Italian tune from time to time just to sort it out. i also think those that are driven longer distances on a regular basis dont experience it as much. Mine travels 10 kays to the station and back each day and gets a better run on weekends.I reckon it is just build up.

                Still runs like a silky smooth rocket ( and munches on Meganes )
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                • Golf R Observations and Questions

                  Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                  Well, I do have a VARDesign sticker on my stock R, definately adds 30kw
                  Hold the bus ... time for a proper update on the VARDesign stuff (or just a sticker at this stage)?
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                  • Golf R Observations and Questions

                    I'll be taking mine back to the Newcastle dyno soon so will be interesting to see. Last time i went there (about a year ago with Bluefin Stage 1 and intake) the car made 186kw.

                    Based on those previous results on the same dyno, im hoping for 205-210kw with the DNA Stage III tune and HPFP/intercooler/dump pipe etc.


                    Originally posted by Ideo View Post
                    It'd be DNA I'd be watching for

                    I'd be keen to get mine on the same Dyno. I saw good gains with/without tune (158 vs 187) but this was a place in Newcastle that no one else really has used apart.
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                    • Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
                      I know your only stirring of course
                      You should reply to such things with: DO A SKID and a photo of a v8 holden ute.

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                      • Golf R Observations and Questions

                        Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
                        They all will belch out smoke even when stock due to oil build up, punch it a few times and all the oil will be burnt off and it will smoke no more.
                        My GTI would under heavy acceleration but only the initial acceleration, more a puff of greyish smoke (was stock)

                        My R has definately never done what you say, even when my brother drove it, like an idiot.


                        I know your only stirring of course
                        Only in part but good we agree that the R handling is nothing to crow about, which is what the discussion was about

                        AWD in itself isn't magical either, can detract from handling and in the case of the bloated R, it does.

                        Maybe it will feel better after not having driven it for a few weeks.

                        A good car but I'm not a zealot
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                        • The more boost you run the more pronounced the blow-by will be and certainly the piston to bore clearances will differ amongst all the cars which is why you will see some owners complaining about excessive oil consumption. So maybe your just lucky. My own car is actually not too bad but some customers cars sheezus !!! or maybe its simply because you've never experienced the awesomeness of a proper re-calibration with a real man level of tune on it.
                          Just sayin'

                          Edit: You'll really notice it on cars where they've been driven sedately, sedately means high manifold vacuum which really sucks the oil in and then when you ( on in Silverfox's case his wife) gives it a blast it all gets burnt up and the cycle begins again. So the real answer is to forget your silly catch can devices and keep the manifold vacuum as low as possible, in short just cane the crap out of the thing, everywhere.
                          Last edited by parso_rex; 06-12-2012, 05:51 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
                            The more boost you run the more pronounced the blow-by will be and certainly the piston to bore clearances will differ amongst all the cars which is why you will see some owners complaining about excessive oil consumption. So maybe your just lucky. My own car is actually not too bad but some customers cars sheezus !!! or maybe its simply because you've never experienced the awesomeness of a proper re-calibration with a real man level of tune on it.
                            Just sayin'

                            Edit: You'll really notice it on cars where they've been driven sedately, sedately means high manifold vacuum which really sucks the oil in and then when you ( on in Silverfox's case his wife) gives it a blast it all gets burnt up and the cycle begins again. So the real answer is to forget your silly catch can devices and keep the manifold vacuum as low as possible, in short just cane the crap out of the thing, everywhere.
                            But the car is scary fast mummy
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                            • Anyone else notice that the front parking sensors are absolutely useless?

                              Useless in the sense that the way to 'turn on' the front parking sensors is to put the car into reverse so the optical parking thingie shows up on the RNS. If you just drive forwards at slow speeds the optical parking doesn't turn on and you don't get any audio warnings that you're getting close to something.

                              When I'm driving forwards into a parking space with a low concrete kerb I would find it very useful if the front parking sensors actually sensed what was at the front of the car without me needing to stop, put car into R, put car into D, continue parking.

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                              • Originally posted by jamesatfish View Post
                                Anyone else notice that the front parking sensors are absolutely useless?

                                Useless in the sense that the way to 'turn on' the front parking sensors is to put the car into reverse so the optical parking thingie shows up on the RNS. If you just drive forwards at slow speeds the optical parking doesn't turn on and you don't get any audio warnings that you're getting close to something.

                                When I'm driving forwards into a parking space with a low concrete kerb I would find it very useful if the front parking sensors actually sensed what was at the front of the car without me needing to stop, put car into R, put car into D, continue parking.
                                Or just press the parking sensor button and they turn on whenever you want
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