Golf R Observations and Questions

[Lucas_R]

I was in exactly the same situation as you DreamensioN, After having owned 2x 200sx's (an S14a and a S15) over the past 8 years i decided it was time to get something a bit more practical / less boy racer / grown up / sophisticated etc etc. Both my 200sx's were mildly modified up to around the 170rwkw mark and were pretty quick without being over the top.

I must admit that i was a little upset when i drove the demo R at the dealership - it didnt feel as brisk as a 2nd hand Audi S3 i had driven only a few weeks prior. The car is much more sure footed and confidence inspiring than the 200sx - but it just felt like a larger capacity 4 cylinder (say 2.4 litres) rather than a turbo. You have to remember that the Golf R is about 250-300kg heavier than a 200sx so its not quite as nimble.

I am very happy with the Golf, its MUCH better built than the Nissan, nice and quiet, smooth, very refined etc. And to be honest, a basic stage 1 remap will lift the power from the Aussie detuned level of 188kw/330nm to 230+kw / 420+nm, making it much more fun to drive.

I'm coming from a high powered RWD 200SX, into a "factory" spec Golf R. I know it won't be as powerful (or perhaps as fun?), as the 200SX, so I'm hoping I won't get the same disppointment. I can understand some people going from a (normal) car (Corolla, Falcon, Magna etc) would think the Golf R is like "whoa!". But coming from the opposite direction it (could) be disappointing. This is an exaggerated example, but it might be like someone coming from a Lamborghini to a HSV GTS. They might find it an extreme disappointment. Whereas someone coming from a Hyundai Getz to the HSV would be like "OMFG! I need new pants".

^^those comments are just in general and aren't directed at anybody. It's just food for thought.

But the reason I quoted you rd415 is (firstly to get your attention ), but also - I'm looking at doing a Bluefin remap straighta way. Just to give me a basic idea, out of 10, how would you rate the Golf R before, and after the remap? 1 being "OMG, this hunk of crap, I wanna sell it" to 10 being "I want this car to have my babies."

[rd415]

Bluefin Rating

Answer- Before Bluefin to be honest about a 3, it wasn't a heap of crap but it just wasn't as good as it supposed to be. Now with the Bluefin probably a 7, it's not earth shattering, but a huge improvement. It's now great fun to drive yet retaining a very pleasant smoothness.

Dare I say it is now slightly better than my old MPS6 and according to a few others on a recent MPS Cruise, better than their modified MPS3's.

Thanks for all the positive comments, muchly appreciated.

All the golf R needs is a boot (not a hatchback) but that's pure personal taste LOL, nothing to do with performance.

But the reason I quoted you rd415 is (firstly to get your attention ), but also - I'm looking at doing a Bluefin remap straighta way. Just to give me a basic idea, out of 10, how would you rate the Golf R before, and after the remap? 1 being "OMG, this hunk of crap, I wanna sell it" to 10 being "I want this car to have my babies."

[dave_r]

All the golf R needs is a boot (not a hatchback) but that's pure personal taste LOL, nothing to do with performance.

Haha definetly personal pref but it really is amazing how much space the thing has. As mentioned well back in the thread, I've done costco runs with 3 people and a crap load of stuff. Full set of 19" wheels with rubber fitted, 2 push bikes, TV's. Having the open hatch and removable tray makes it more usable than a boot IMO.

[triode12]

Haha definetly personal pref but it really is amazing how much space the thing has. As mentioned well back in the thread, I've done costco runs with 3 people and a crap load of stuff. Full set of 19" wheels with rubber fitted, 2 push bikes, TV's. Having the open hatch and removable tray makes it more usable than a boot IMO.

I think he meant boot as in a shove in the backside - more grunt rather than boot space.

[dave_r]

Have another read

[adzy]

does anyone have or seen a dyno sheet for bluefin on a golf r?

[triode12]

Have another read

Doh! Ye be right.

[gslrallysport]

does anyone have or seen a dyno sheet for bluefin on a golf r?

http://superchips.co.uk/curves/2010Mk6GolfR.pdf

And as said before, either PM, or call Jmac, 0423 965 341. He's done both my diesel iLoad (with unbelievable results!) and diesel Forester.

[shakespeare]

Answer- Before Bluefin to be honest about a 3, it wasn't a heap of crap but it just wasn't as good as it supposed to be. Now with the Bluefin probably a 7, it's not earth shattering, but a huge improvement. It's now great fun to drive yet retaining a very pleasant smoothness.

Dare I say it is now slightly better than my old MPS6 and according to a few others on a recent MPS Cruise, better than their modified MPS3's.

Thanks for all the positive comments, muchly appreciated.

All the golf R needs is a boot (not a hatchback) but that's pure personal taste LOL, nothing to do with performance.

Good to hear about the bluefin results!

As per your last comment, there's an Audi A3 sedan on the horizon, if they bring this out in the S3 spec then it would be a Golf R with a boot!

[Lucas_R]

Bluefin-ned my Golf R last night. Much happier with the car now. It really pulls through the gears now and revs out without what felt like resistance before. Turbo spool is louder (obvious as its running more boost) and a definite increase in power and torque.

The car actually feels like its a turbo now rather than just feeling like a larger capacity naturally aspirated engine. Having owned 2x 200sx's over the past 8 years or so that were both lightly modified up to around 170rwkw - i was a bit underwhelmed with the Golf GTI and Golf R in standard trim.

Much happier with the car now.

Good to hear about the bluefin results!

As per your last comment, there's an Audi A3 sedan on the horizon, if they bring this out in the S3 spec then it would be a Golf R with a boot!

[weewilly]

Lucas R, are you able to turn Bluefin on and off? Unlike the APR

[dave_r]

Can someone elaborate on the SPS/Tuning software of the bluefin device? What exactly does it let you change? Yeah I know go ask in the performance section but given a few people here are buying them, I figure they've done the reasearch - I'm curious.

[zbeasty]

Can someone elaborate on the SPS/Tuning software of the bluefin device? What exactly does it let you change? Yeah I know go ask in the performance section but given a few people here are buying them, I figure they've done the reasearch - I'm curious.

AFAIK the bluefin unit lets you download a modified file from the bluefin website which you then upload to your car. It also lets you download your stock file and save it on the unit so that you can load it back in future if needed. You can't create a custom file yourself. I think there are a couple of other tuners that have handsets available but they are an extra cost option. It does make it easier for people who are remote and can't get to somewhere that can do the tune.

[Lucas_R]

Yes - the Bluefin can be installed and subsequently removed via the handcontroller device whenever you want / need. It takes about 15-20 minutes to apply or remove the tune.

Lucas R, are you able to turn Bluefin on and off? Unlike the APR

[Xciteu]

Bluefin-ned my Golf R last night. Much happier with the car now. It really pulls through the gears now and revs out without what felt like resistance before. Turbo spool is louder (obvious as its running more boost) and a definite increase in power and torque.

The car actually feels like its a turbo now rather than just feeling like a larger capacity naturally aspirated engine. Having owned 2x 200sx's over the past 8 years or so that were both lightly modified up to around 170rwkw - i was a bit underwhelmed with the Golf GTI and Golf R in standard trim.

Much happier with the car now.

Hey mate, from who did you score the Bluefin from. I've emailed Gccorp but got no response from them. Have you done any more mods(exhaust,intake,intercooler),if so,can your tune accommodate them?