Golf R Observations and Questions

[kam]

my wife's 1.4 Beetle with the 7 speed DSG will slaughter the R in a standing start race to the other side of the intersection purely in how the gearbox picks up from stationary.

And this is my main problem

Those quick traffic light drags/merges, where by the time my car actually starts moving, the 8 seater people mover next to me is half way across the intersection

[Frazza]

Any recommendations on how to improve the initial launch ?
In a DSG, when stopped, and then going full throttle, there is a whole second or two where the car sits doing nothing, im maybe assuming the gear engaging, before it actually starts moving, which can be a game ender in those quick traffic light merging lane scenarios
ive read up on DNA stage 1 tune or a dsg software tune, and understand they increase kw, torque and\or shift speeds, but nothing in regards to getting rid of the initial launch lag

The only improvement i could suggest is turn off TCS and practice, i still have stock DSG file in mine and it gets off the line pretty well, yes there is a pause like all DSG's but once it hooks up it really goes. One thing that has improved this is the intake, getting it to breath better helps with the turbo spool and more power sooner, my car is just tune and intake, no huge power yet i found there to be only 0.5-0.6sec difference between sport manual (TCS off) and launch control (5.0 vs 4.4). So i guess the only real help is "sport mode" + "TCS Off" + "Flat to the floor" and if you dont have CAI then get one

[Golf Argh]

Could be that the previous owner had fitted this, not necessarily this brand.

APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.


Just a thought.

I doubt it would be the dump if its the Milltek but yes as above check the mounts. Lots of guys fit these and you can tell straight away. Personally I don't like them at all as IMO it doesn't suit the car making it seem quite harsh and cheap but that's just me and maybe I'm getting old as some guys love this

You guys are good-checked with the previous owner, it does have engine/transmission mounts (although not sure of brand)
I was told it is necessary once you do stage 2, would that mean if I take it off I'll run into problems in the future?

Also the AC doesn't affect the vibrations, and since neutral makes it better I guess it's probably the transmission mount?


Thanks fellas

[jamesatfish]

Any recommendations on how to improve the initial launch ?

Assuming the DNA DSG tune applies similar changes to the APR version, don't expect the take-off lag to improve at all as a result.

The standing start performance of the Golf R DSG is pathetic, and it is a function of how the 6 speed DSG was designed rather than something that can be improved through software.

It's worse in a Stage 3 car where there's turbo lag to compound the issue, but my wife's 1.4 Beetle with the 7 speed DSG will slaughter the R in a standing start race to the other side of the intersection purely in how the gearbox picks up from stationary.

The only way to make the R respond off the line is with launch control - at the Cooma 1000 last year my Golf recorded a 2 second 0-100 difference (5.8s vs 3.9) between launch control and a regular 'foot to floor' launch. Obviously that's not a solution for the real world.

[kam]

Any recommendations on how to improve the initial launch ?

In a DSG, when stopped, and then going full throttle, there is a whole second or two where the car sits doing nothing, im maybe assuming the gear engaging, before it actually starts moving, which can be a game ender in those quick traffic light merging lane scenarios

ive read up on DNA stage 1 tune or a dsg software tune, and understand they increase kw, torque and\or shift speeds, but nothing in regards to getting rid of the initial launch lag

[parso_rex]

Hey all,

Just picked up a 2012 mk6 R, really enjoying the car. Came with a Stage 2 Viezu, VWR intake and Milltek TBE.

A niggle I have though, it has a vibration/shudder when idling in drive. Becomes milder if I put it in neutral, goes away completely in manual/sport mode (likely due to idle rpm jumping up) but its repeatable every time. It seems from my searching that the downpipe is to blame, however considering the number of people here with downpipes there doesn't seem to be many who report this problem.

Has anyone here experienced similar problems? The only solution it seems is to raise the idle RPM, which seems like a short term fix.


Cheers

I doubt it would be the dump if its the Milltek but yes as above check the mounts. Lots of guys fit these and you can tell straight away. Personally I don't like them at all as IMO it doesn't suit the car making it seem quite harsh and cheap but that's just me and maybe I'm getting old as some guys love this

[brimway]

Could be that the previous owner had fitted this, not necessarily this brand.

APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.


Just a thought.

[Golf Argh]

Hey all,

Just picked up a 2012 mk6 R, really enjoying the car. Came with a Stage 2 Viezu, VWR intake and Milltek TBE.

A niggle I have though, it has a vibration/shudder when idling in drive. Becomes milder if I put it in neutral, goes away completely in manual/sport mode (likely due to idle rpm jumping up) but its repeatable every time. It seems from my searching that the downpipe is to blame, however considering the number of people here with downpipes there doesn't seem to be many who report this problem.

Has anyone here experienced similar problems? The only solution it seems is to raise the idle RPM, which seems like a short term fix.


Cheers

[SilvrFoxX]

No, the reverse, wind tunnel tests have shown White to be a drag on performance . Also independent surveys have also found owners secretly are having affairs with their fridge

[amberzombie]

Especially that White is a performance colour

You mean it doesn't add that 10bhp that everyone talks about???

[SilvrFoxX]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet

Especially that White is a performance colour

[Frazza]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet

LOL, I know a guy

[parso_rex]

Don't believe everything you read on the internet

[amberzombie]

You could just wrap the car in the performance shade i.e white and then the rims would look fine

Haha that is true... but a wrap would probably end up more than a new set of wheels?

which reminds me... I might have to give you a call some time about a tune. I live down in Sans Souci and I've been researching on tunes for my R and I heard you're the man!

[parso_rex]

So I've had my Golf R for close to a year now.

I am still loving the power on it and I never get tired revving it and hearing the pops.

I bought mine second hand and the previous owner had his 18" painted gloss black. For some reason i'm still not feeling it against the RB colour.

Thinking of changing them wheels to the new 18" Rotary that got released with the MK7's as part of the accessories range:
2013 Volkswagen Golf 18 inch Alloy Wheel - Rotary #5G0-071-498-16Z

Would coincide with a need to get new rubbers for my car.

You could just wrap the car in the performance shade i.e white and then the rims would look fine