The Official Mk6 Golf DSG Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[zoomda]

I would call 12kw a lot more power (although weight difference will have a bigger impact). Get Stage 1 for the Golf and they'll be more evenly matched.

Very true, particularly as the golf is a wagon I'm quite keen on Stage 1 but will wait until they are on special again.

[zoomda]

Mine goes in on Tuesday for a clutch pack. Software upgrade did result in the gearbox down changing on descents when cruise enabled without touching the brakes. It never did that before.

[gecko2k]

No offence taken. I'll have another longer trip coming up in the near future and I might try to pay extra attention this time and decide then what to do. I'm getting a DSG tune anyway, that might solve the problems...


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[Rawcpoppa]

I know mate, the only thing I was asking was if VCDS normally doesn't detect errors after a common DSG shudder. But I'll try it over there then, thanks anyway.....


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My bad. Wasn't trying to run you. I don't think vcds stores error codes for shudder. That's why you have stories in this thread about owners carrying their car to vw but nothing being down by vw due to not being able to reproduce the shudder and no error codes to confirm anything.

It may however be different with the wet clutches? I'm just guessing at this point. Like maybe low dsg fluid error or something.


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[gecko2k]

I know mate, the only thing I was asking was if VCDS normally doesn't detect errors after a common DSG shudder. But I'll try it over there then, thanks anyway.....


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[Rawcpoppa]

I just did a 1000km return trip and experienced my first shudders. Mainly the typical 2nd gear shudder and when going around corners with the steering wheel in full lock. The car was in second gear and reved all the way to 4000rpms till I took the foot of the throttle and the clutch engaged.

VCDS showed 0 errors. Is that normal? I am planing on going stage 2+ fairly soon, but not sure how to handle this now without any error codes to show the dealer.

Anybody else experienced no fault codes after the shudder?

My car is a MY12 155TSI Tiguan with the 7 Speed DSG.....

Your dsg is different from the ones in this thread. Your dsg has a wet clutch vs our dry clutches. I'm not sure what help we can provide in this thread. May have to visit the Tiguan forum?


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[gecko2k]

I just did a 1000km return trip and experienced my first shudders. Mainly the typical 2nd gear shudder and when going around corners with the steering wheel in full lock. The car was in second gear and reved all the way to 4000rpms till I took the foot of the throttle and the clutch engaged.

VCDS showed 0 errors. Is that normal? I am planing on going stage 2+ fairly soon, but not sure how to handle this now without any error codes to show the dealer.

Anybody else experienced no fault codes after the shudder?

My car is a MY12 155TSI Tiguan with the 7 Speed DSG.....

[Ryan_R]

Just heard from a friend in the UK who has a 2012 Focus with a brand new dry clutch S tronic (DSG) gearbox and he described all the exact problems we have - at least it's not just us then.

That said I've been driving a 6spd DSG 103TDI these last two days and have some comparative notes jotted down, will post my findings later this week.

[hentaiboy]

Last week I invested in the DQ200 upgrade from Guy Harding's joint in Coorparoo. And truly, it is an investment. Worth every cent, wish VW had programmed the 'box this way from the outset

Sounds good but I'd much rather put the $995 towards a GTI...

[sbowden]

DQ200 (DSG 7speed) software upgrade a WINNER

Last week I invested in the DQ200 upgrade from Guy Harding's joint in Coorparoo. And truly, it is an investment. Worth every cent, wish VW had programmed the 'box this way from the outset, the improvement is so noticeable. Love driving the car in city traffic again, and roundabouts no longer cause me to reach for the Xanax... The car is simply in the right gear going in, through, and out...didn't used to be this way, sadly. If you have a 7sp DSG that gives you the #@%!!s, then get into this upgrade.

[hentaiboy]

Just contacted my dealer and they seem reasonably supportive. Have to take my car in tomorrow for a test drive and if they think it's the clutches (which it is) they will request a repair through VW Australia. Even though the car's 4 months out of warranty he thinks that the repair should be covered.

[Bel]

Of the owners in WA who have had warranty work done on their dubs for faulty DSG shudders, have any VW Dealers been more or less supportive??? Any to avoid or recommend?

Sofar I've been frustrated with Vic Pk, ignoring my emails & phone msgs. :-/

VW wangara have done all my warranty work and they are super supportive of it all even though I didn't buy the car there. The service girl there, Natasha, is fantastic to deal with and last time I was in she actually had some helping her out for a change so you should get results if you call them I think.

Also I had an oil consumption issue a few months back and the car got towed to ozzy park. Chatting to the service girls there, they said that replacing a clutch pack (I mentioned I had it done along with the water pump) was seen as a regular thing... So I assume they would handle it well too.

[Ryan_R]

Hi guys, I've got a 2010 Golf R 6spd DSG and only had it 2mths and mine has clutch shuddered about 6 times now, not quite consistent enough to show to a VW mech yet. I too am starting to get concerned coz mine doesn't have much warranty left either.

Has anyone worked out ways to make car shudder? That is, exactly what conditions increase chance of shudder? I'm hoping to demonstrate shudder to a mech soon. From what I've read sofar, car needs to be at full running temp ie 30-45 mins driving, then usually a start stop between 1st & 2nd gears in 'D'? And a load or hill can increase chance? Mine usually occur when accelerating out of a cnr from slow speed.

I read that most posts in here are related to the 7spd DSG. Has anyone heard of much problems in their GTI or R?

Can't say I've heard of 6spd issues since it's a much older box. Best way to induce shuddering or jerkiness for me is to drive uphill in peak hour traffic. Often happens when you're following someone slower than the rest of traffic, i.e. the car is at biting point and doesn't know whether to gas up or clutch in partially because you don't know when the moron in front is going to start paying attention to the road

[labrys]

Of the owners in WA who have had warranty work done on their dubs for faulty DSG shudders, have any VW Dealers been more or less supportive??? Any to avoid or recommend?

Sofar I've been frustrated with Vic Pk, ignoring my emails & phone msgs. :-/

[labrys]

Hi guys, I've got a 2010 Golf R 6spd DSG and only had it 2mths and mine has clutch shuddered about 6 times now, not quite consistent enough to show to a VW mech yet. I too am starting to get concerned coz mine doesn't have much warranty left either.

Has anyone worked out ways to make car shudder? That is, exactly what conditions increase chance of shudder? I'm hoping to demonstrate shudder to a mech soon. From what I've read sofar, car needs to be at full running temp ie 30-45 mins driving, then usually a start stop between 1st & 2nd gears in 'D'? And a load or hill can increase chance? Mine usually occur when accelerating out of a cnr from slow speed.

I read that most posts in here are related to the 7spd DSG. Has anyone heard of much problems in their GTI or R?