The Official Mk6 Golf DSG Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[BigJohnny]

Thanks for the reply. They didn't say they wanted to rebuild just replace solenoids, clutch pack and flywheel. Mine only has 150k on the clock and the DSG was serviced at 120k.

[timk]

I had the same symptoms with my DQ250 at just over 300k KM, my mechanic changed just the clutches and the DMF. Including labour and fluids it was around $3,800 but now the shifts are as good as new.

Did they say why they wanted to replace the solenoids or rebuild the box itself? Seems excessive if just preventative maintenance.

[BigJohnny]

I have a 2010 Mk6 GTi DSG (DQ250 with code LTL) with a shudder on all up changes and bangs on the way down. Same in manual mode. Quoted 6K to rebuild box with new clutch pack, solenoids and flywheel. Was told I would need an identical DSG with code LTL if wanted to replace with a second hand unit. Can anyone confirm this is legit or whether there are other DSG codes that would work on my car.

Any advice appreciated.

[nubee]

Hi,

I see this post has been going for more than 10 years but I fail to find a resolution to the problem or perhaps mines a bit different?

I have MK6 118TSI 7sp DSG 155K kms ODO and developed shudder in gear 1 several months ago. From minor shudder between 1st and 2nd gear it progressed to several incidents of full or partial gear drop to D (from D1), while raving on its own (even if I switch it to N) and few incidents included loss of power steering, break pedal stuck and no acceleration, all of which happened at cross lights / middle of crossing. Note to say it’s occurring intermittently, but lately it’s my daily bread and 90% of it it comes up when I am standing at lights (4 beeps, break light indicator on and off we go). Yesterday, I got engine light on as well, which disappeared on a drive back from work but I can only picture it flashing at me again soon.

Virgin last three months:

Three visits to AutoLeaders-> found everything else but anything to do with this. Issue not resolved, I gave up on bringing it back.

Two visits to VW Southport, first time they said some electric box / wiring melted and needs replacement as if that was the cause (it wasn’t), second time they did firmware upgrade on “mechatronics?” (No improvement) and then suggested clutch replacement ($2600). Obviously charging me both times.

Reading through the forums, I understand few people have replaced the clutch but I fail to find if that was a permanent fix or if it only buys me another X amount of kms on the car? Is the clutch simply worn out or has there been some fault rectified in the clutch replacement?

Seeing that the shudder issue on DSG has been going on since 2009, has it been recalled? Mine is 06/2009 so I assume my chances of getting it fixed through recall would be slim anyway due to 10 year mark, right?

Seeing it’s 11 years old, 155K kms and the car is ok otherwise, is the clutch replacement even sensible? I would hate to spend extra 2-3K only to have this issue half year later again.

Thank you for advise.

[SgtBatten]

Debating whether to persist with this car or not. My mk6 118tsi has been bloody awesome. Last year VW replaced my mechatronics after the car died in the middle of a busy road at speed under goodwill. that was for a 2012 car with almost 180000km on the clock. Before that and now continuing after i have the shudder when changing to second gear or accelerating from low speed. not every time but often enough. I know i'm probably in for a clutch replacement but it's been doing it for 2 years now i'd say. I wonder what else it has damaged in that time.

Hard to choose whether to try and trade it in now, wait for a failure or fix things preemptively. 189000kms now and otherwise I love it.

I had so many dreams to upgrade the lights, stage 1 tune it etc but i'm scared it will blow up in my face as soon as i do.

[Glennw]

Your warranty should cover it. I paid $2500 for a new clutch pack, it’s a 2011 tsi, just over a year after, it’s started again

[chz]

i also start to feel shudder on 2nd gear with DSG7, only when im on "D" ... The car is 1.4tsi 118kw dsg7 2011year, 90,000km.
Is there a permanent fix to this problem ? And how much will cost?

I had the same problem a few months after I bought it.l.from the 1st owner about 2 1/2 years ago. I took it back to the dealer where the car was purchased and serviced. The clutch was replaced previously as part of a recall. The deal replaced it again as the replacement clutch was around 2 years old.

The car lost drive while cruising at 100km on the freeway and was towed to the dealer last month. A new gearbox was needed and it was covered by VW HQ good will.

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[lordlosh]

i also start to feel shudder on 2nd gear with DSG7, only when im on "D" ... The car is 1.4tsi 118kw dsg7 2011year, 90,000km.
Is there a permanent fix to this problem ? And how much will cost?

[Ryeman]

VW has said they are cracking down on sub standard dealerships.........sounds like a 'handball' to me.

[jonof747]

VW goodwill repairs budget has likely been decimated by dieselgate. They will do anything to avoid paying for out of warranty repairs.

Standard response these days is zero goodwill. They will try it on and up to you to fight it if you choose


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I was feeling pretty frustrated with my 2012 Jetta's DSG 2nd gear shudder and complained about it to VW Dealership by stating that i don't want to cause problems but i am concerned about my gearbox. I didn't push the matter.

They booked me in and said they may be able to help if they can prove the problem and VW Germany approves it. As far as i thought, i had no hope in getting anything out of VW because the car is 9 months out of Warranty (55000km ODO) and to be honest, why would they care that the car shudders a bit on take off. The car still drives...

Feeling Depressed and anxious, i see VW's number call and dread the conversation that would occur...

They are replacing my clutch pack and my car will be ready to be picked up tomorrow. No pushing. No questions asked.

This may be a temporary fix, but i am happy that they at least did this. This occurred today.
(History of dealership and me - 2 cars bought through dealership over 10 years and always serviced there)

[tigger73]

VW goodwill repairs budget has likely been decimated by dieselgate. They will do anything to avoid paying for out of warranty repairs.

Standard response these days is zero goodwill. They will try it on and up to you to fight it if you choose


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[Ryeman]

VW keeps its 'recalls' inhouse as service updates because there are just so many of them.
I don't recall many AllRoads being tested in Australia's outback for the same reason a 5 year warranty is a pipe dream.

[VW Convert]

Asian manufacurers avoid 'loss of face' VW doesn't bother.
I've never bothered to take a Japanese new vehicle back for any genuine service ......I always did it myself - going back to the first '73 Civic......boringly reliable and not something you'd boast about.
Thats the difference.

What difference? VW repair or replace the affected item same as the Asian companies. There are many examples of VW rectifying defects outside the terms of the manufacturer's warranty just as there are with Asian manufacturers.

It's not about them being nice guys and there's no face saving involved, if it were not for our consumer laws, ALL of the manufacturers would reject claims outside the warranty period as they used to in the days before our consumer laws came into being. I can attest to this having purchased a lemon Japanese car back in the old days, their attitude was basically get stuffed, we're not interested.

Your point was that VW use the general public as a test bed for their technology, reality is that all manufacturers do just that.

Cheers

George

[Ryeman]

Asian manufacurers avoid 'loss of face' VW doesn't bother.
I've never bothered to take a Japanese new vehicle back for any genuine service ......I always did it myself - going back to the first '73 Civic......boringly reliable and not something you'd boast about.
Thats the difference.
It was so simple - all they had to do was back their own product with a 5 (not 7) year warranty and they would have cheered up so many owners, and we know why they won't.

[VW Convert]

23K and VW serviced!
Disgusting!
The general public are the test bed for VW technology........and it's the reason they won't have a bar of extending their warranty period out to 5 years.......regaining some sort of positive publicity at this time would be a no-brainer you'd think.
Imagine if was ANY brand of Asian vehicle (even Chinese).

If you are suggesting Asian vehicles don't have issues you are incorrect. I used to work with a very large wholesaler of automatic transmission spare parts, at one point, for 12 months or so, Hyundai were having so much trouble with a certain transmission that they were unable to keep up the supply of parts so the dealers were buying off the company I worked for to perform warranty work.

Speaking of Korean vehicles, Holden Captiva (Daewoo) had numerous issues as did Kia Sorento so much so that all or nearly all of the particular model had engines replaced under warranty. No manufacturer is immune from manufacturing faults including Asian manufacturers.

Manufacturers test vehicles over hundreds of thousands of kilometres prior to releasing them but the reality is, there is no substitiute for real world driving to highlight deficiencies in design.

Cheers

George