Golf 118 TSI Engine Failures and Service Campaign 24S4

[Tatler86]

Lucas r I couldn't agree more, just gotta convince the misses! $18000 total investment I could have bought something close to brand new! First ever VW and most likely my last!

[Lucas_R]

Unfortunately for many people their 1st venture into a VW is a 118TSI......they were a good proposition when new and even 2nd hand you get a lot of car for the money.......but that engine is a nightmare and the 7speed DSG gearbox isn't much better.

On this forum and another Aussie VW forum i look at there would be several hundred nightmare stories of issues with 118TSI's. And by "issues" i don't mean an oil leak, i mean engine has blown up. Some people have had their engine either rebuilt or replaced several times!!

[Waz]

Hi Michaelstanley,

Did they tell you what was wrong with your car?

What was their diagnosis?

[brad]

I don't understand how these vehicles are fine when test driving prior to purchase and suddenly die on the drive home.

Aren't any of you people bothering to get a vehicle inspection?

[Waz]

I don't understand how these vehicles are fine when test driving prior to purchase and suddenly die on the drive home.

Aren't any of you people bothering to get a vehicle inspection?

Well the shuddering only kicks in when the car has been running for well over 15-20 mins. I took mine to three different mechanic to find out why the lights come on?

[Tatler86]

I don't understand how these vehicles are fine when test driving prior to purchase and suddenly die on the drive home.

Aren't any of you people bothering to get a vehicle inspection?

I have never had a vehicle inspection... Bought many cars in the past and never had an issue, I assumed this would be the same case!


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[Transporter]

I have never had a vehicle inspection...

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That's not very wise. Usually people get the car inspected by qualified mechanic (not just a mate who just knows about the cars) before they purchase it.

There are many reasons for it;
Many car owners modify their cars, then revert back to stock before they sell it.
Many drivers also drive with the check engine light for a very long time, completely ignoring manufacturer's recommendations to drive to the workshop.
Many car owners also service and repair their cars themselves, without having any mechanical knowledge, right tools and equipment, which also leads to that they don't have to use the right oils and parts and fit them correctly.
...and of course there are many accidents too, so if only for that reason, you should get your car checked before you buy it.

[Tatler86]

That's not very wise. Usually people get the car inspected by qualified mechanic (not just a mate who just knows about the cars) before they purchase it.

There are many reasons for it;
Many car owners modify their cars, then revert back to stock before they sell it.
Many drivers also drive with the check engine light for a very long time, completely ignoring manufacturer's recommendations to drive to the workshop.
Many car owners also service and repair their cars themselves, without having any mechanical knowledge, right tools and equipment, which also leads to that they don't have to use the right oils and parts and fit them correctly.
...and of course there are many accidents too, so if only for that reason, you should get your car checked before you buy it.

That's why you ensure you check the log books and carry out a revs check... They don't carry out a combustion test during an inspection... Complete waste of time and if I could turn back time I still would not invest in one.

Each entitled to their opinion though and I thank you for keeping the economy strong by believing in them so much


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[Nicho]

Far from happy here....118TSI has been nothing but problems. Initially the engine was pulled apart due to the fuel issue I think around the 3 month mark so covered by warranty. There was a recall in there as well somewhere. Another issue with a Mechatronics failure (couldn't even start car and being parked 5pm in a Westfields was fun) just outside of warranty and they did cover it with good will. EPC light came on yesterday with shudders. I take it to VW Kirrawee today and they have just rung to advise piston needs replacing and it will cost $5400. I went off at them of course and she advised she would put a goodwill claim through. She came back to say it got knocked back but they have put in a 2nd which will take 24-48 hours to process. Looking at this thread Piston failures are an issue with this car? How should I approach this? $5400 I don't want to pay and the car is probably only worth twice that now with 110K on the clock?

[Mk R]

Far from happy here....118TSI has been nothing but problems. Initially the engine was pulled apart due to the fuel issue I think around the 3 month mark so covered by warranty. There was a recall in there as well somewhere. Another issue with a Mechatronics failure (couldn't even start car and being parked 5pm in a Westfields was fun) just outside of warranty and they did cover it with good will. EPC light came on yesterday with shudders. I take it to VW Kirrawee today and they have just rung to advise piston needs replacing and it will cost $5400. I went off at them of course and she advised she would put a goodwill claim through. She came back to say it got knocked back but they have put in a 2nd which will take 24-48 hours to process. Looking at this thread Piston failures are an issue with this car? How should I approach this? $5400 I don't want to pay and the car is probably only worth twice that now with 110K on the clock?

Search my post history, i've discussed this a few times. A used engine (from a wrecker) replacement is about $3-3,500. installed. I had it done last year. PM me for contact details if you like.

[Nicho]

Search my post history, i've discussed this a few times. A used engine (from a wrecker) replacement is about $3-3,500. installed. I had it done last year. PM me for contact details if you like.

Ok...thanks for the response MK R. VW have come back and advised the parts no charge on good will. That leaves me paying $1800 for labour which they won't budge on. Obviously a better outcome than the original $5400 but still just leaves me exasperated. Engine pulled off inside 3 months and recall inside a couple of years...how much has that contributed to this? How many piston problems are out there? Clearly with paying for parts there is an implied responsibility for the problems? I have little choice but to move on from the Golf now. Love the style oft the car and engine but my wife refers to it as the lemon and I have little to offer in defence anymore.....

[Mk R]

Ok...thanks for the response MK R. VW have come back and advised the parts no charge on good will. That leaves me paying $1800 for labour which they won't budge on. Obviously a better outcome than the original $5400 but still just leaves me exasperated. Engine pulled off inside 3 months and recall inside a couple of years...how much has that contributed to this? How many piston problems are out there? Clearly with paying for parts there is an implied responsibility for the problems? I have little choice but to move on from the Golf now. Love the style oft the car and engine but my wife refers to it as the lemon and I have little to offer in defence anymore.....

Yeah, it's a shame they designed such a cool engine and cheaped out on the quality of a few key parts. They can be made into strong, reliable engines with a little work. I'd be relatively happy with the $1,800 bill. Now your decision is whether to sell out or stick with the devil you know... The 2.0 TDI Mk6 was a pretty tough little car, they didn't have too much wrong with them. You should have a decent sales pitch for a new owner with a VW rebuilt engine!

[Nicho]

Yeah, it's a shame they designed such a cool engine and cheaped out on the quality of a few key parts. They can be made into strong, reliable engines with a little work. I'd be relatively happy with the $1,800 bill. Now your decision is whether to sell out or stick with the devil you know... The 2.0 TDI Mk6 was a pretty tough little car, they didn't have too much wrong with them. You should have a decent sales pitch for a new owner with a VW rebuilt engine!

Yeah....unfortunately this makes the decision for us. Wife won't touch VW again. I am not naive enough to think there are not dissatisfied customers of all brands but I guess all we can do in the future is to ensure a long warranty and sell before warranty runs out! I will miss the Golf but at least we have some bargaining power now for a trade-in.....not sure it will be too much though!

[Waz]

stI'll waiting for the engine to be pulled out and diagnosed..... No loan car!!

[Waz]

Yeah....unfortunately this makes the decision for us. Wife won't touch VW again. I am not naive enough to think there are not dissatisfied customers of all brands but I guess all we can do in the future is to ensure a long warranty and sell before warranty runs out! I will miss the Golf but at least we have some bargaining power now for a trade-in.....not sure it will be too much though!

Michael, did they tell you which part of the engine needed repairing?