DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

[Rawcpoppa]

Yep.. a new gearbox costs just shy of $10k then there's the labour cost.

Does the 10k include a new mechatronic unit?

[roccabe]

Does the 10k include a new mechatronic unit?

Yes, its a complete gearbox mechatronic unit included.

[Mk6123]

mk6 dsg reverse issue

Hi all
I would appreciate and input and similar experiences
ive been digging through old forum post but haven't been able to find a similar experience to mine so I only have a rough idea at starting point where to begin

the issue,
2010 vw golf gti stock,

on slight gradients when attempting to place car in reverse my dsg searches for the gear after a delay it will flash with a spanner symbol and faults and after turning the car on and off again the spanner goes away and continues as normal this also happens when my car has the wheels turned with the wheels straight the car searches and finds the reverse but on little hills/driveways the car just rolls forward and dsg ****s itself even with foot on brake it does not find reverse, my car does not slip gears or shutter or have any issues driving forward it pulls hard through gears in any of the modes .. searching through the forum ive found roughly that it could be mechatronics unit issues but I feel the symptoms dont fully add up, also I read the clutch packs could need replacing but im not convinced as the car pulls and shifts smooth, The obvious would be to scan and see whats logged but I do not have time to take it to a mechanic and I do not have a scanner.. I also found that the dsg can be reset to relearn the releasing and changes I also dont have vagcom.

So im just gauging to see if anyone had a similar experience and could potentially narrow the issue down as I dont have much time to visit mechanics so I would like to go in with a well informed mind when I finally have time to speak to them, I will also continue searching the forum but this post is to save some time and hope someones had this experience and can shed some light on possible fixes

Thanks all for any input

[Umai Naa!!]

You really need to take it to someone and have it scanned. At this point it's just guesswork, which could end up being expensive guesswork if you get it wrong.

[VR28LT]

pm me if you wish to have it scanned and also do a dsg adaptation Bankstown area

[AdamD]

I would appreciate and input and similar experiences
ive been digging through old forum post but haven't been able to find a similar experience to mine so I only have a rough idea at starting point where to begin

The problems you describe are not particularly uncommon; failing to find neutral can be an indicator of a mechatronics issue (although that's not a certainty). You can read up on the many DSG fault threads littered around the forum (not just in the Mk6 section - the DQ250 is shared with many other models) for more info.

But as Umai Naa!! rightly points out, the only way you're going to get to the bottom of this is to get the car to a VW specialist who can scan it for fault codes in the first instance. If you don't have time to get to a mechanic now, you might be wasting a lot more time down the track if the gearbox packs up entirely and leaves you stranded.

[Mk6123]

pm me if you wish to have it scanned and also do a dsg adaptation Bankstown area

Pm'd please check inbox,
thank you

[Mk6123]

Yeah its just such a odd issue having the wheels turned and not being able to find reverse as if somethings off center and not being able to engage properly,

Any recommendations for dsg specialists around Sydney hurstville area?

[steveyoshi]

Hi Gav.. long time, no speak... as usual some great words back on page 90 something.

No, under no circumstances is shuddering normal. Nor is rattling over rough roads or uphill 9particularly in 2nd gear as 3rd gear rattles around when pre-slected), hesitating on upshifts or downshifts, hard violent up and down shifts, flashing gear displays, reluctance to select gears, dropping out of gear etc. NONE OF THESE ARE NORMAL.

For further info, please read the link in my signature, I have plenty of other media articles relating to this issue.

Just wondering what link did you have in your signature, so many years ago ? lol

woops... not page 90... 19 I think

[raym890]

Hello all,

It would seem the mechatronics unit on my 90TSI has packed up. The gear indicator would flash between the current gear and spanner, and the check engine light is now on.

I managed to limp the car home with the engine light on, although it was shifting ok after the car got up to temp. It has 122,600kms, never rode the clutch during heavy traffic, etc.

Would any other 90/118TSI dry clutch owners have had their mechatronics replaced/repaired recently (outside of warranty, either by an independent or dealer)? Just wondering how much of a hole in my back pocket this is going to leave. Thanks all.

[steveyoshi]

What year... how much out of warranty, always dealer serviced ?

Will be $2500... but you do know it maybe a 5 yr warranty... depending on the year purchased ?

[raym890]

What year... how much out of warranty, always dealer serviced ?

Will be $2500... but you do know it maybe a 5 yr warranty... depending on the year purchased ?

The car is a 2011 (just after the recall that extended to Sep 2011) build, MY12. It's now nearly 2.5 years out of warranty, serviced with independents.

I've booked the car in with a dealer, as they will warrant the any new mechatronics/labour for 2 years. Maybe they'll be generous and try to submit a claim with VWA.

[raym890]

Just an update, I took the car to a dealer and they diagnosed a worn selector fork (metal chunks in the oil apparently) which subsequently took out the mechatronics unit. VW provided goodwill cover for parts and 60% labour, so I was approx $500 out of pocket.

Overall not a bad result, considering I now have a new mechatronics unit, rebuilt internals and 2 years warranty on the work done. The car is now smooth like new.

[Jibber]

Hey guys this is my first post and hopefully I'm posting in the right place? If not mods please feel freeway to move it. I'll start by saying thanks to the mods for approving my membership.

I've recently purchased a 2009 mk6 2.0tdi DSG. The previous owner was quite deceitful when asked if there were any issues with the gearbox (anyway that is my fault for being too trusting). Basically the car won't select reverse and will only do so once the ignition is cycled/ turned off/on. I have scanned the vehicle at work with our modus scan tool and the code that keeps reoccurring is 19143 or p2711 and get the feeling it is related to the mechatronics unit at fault.

So rather than forking out for a new mechatronics unit I'm considering replacing the whole box with a good second hand unit from a 2011 2.0tdi. I believe both DSG's are DQ250's (six speed wet clutch boxes?) but the problem is the three letter code on my existing box is LQU or LQV (label in the boot is hard to read) and the donor box has MFL.

So I'm really hoping someone who has some experience in swapping these boxes can offer me some advice. I've spoken with Vw dealerships and they said No but then I've also spoken to a couple of Vw guys that run their own businesses and they tell me it can be hit and miss? Both having stories of it working and others worked but missing features like cruise control etc... Is there a chart that shows compatibility between the three letter codes maybe? Happy to hear of your experiences.

im a mechanic so I'll be doing the work myself but I don't really want to go through all that trouble only to have to pull it back out

thanks for reading guys/girls.
Cheers Josh.

[Rawcpoppa]

I believe those codes are related to the bell housing of the gearbox. Some codes are interchangeable. For example a Passat and golf can have the same dq250 but different bell housings. You need to check etka or a parts database to see if the codes you quoted are of the same group.