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[gareth_oau]

oh damn, and i thought they were gunna drop the 5L twin turbo in there

[Lima]

has anybody thought of VW using Audi's 2.5L turbo??

I have, but I discounted the idea. Would be fantastic if it happened, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[ENERG1]

Sounds very promising for the future of vw sport fans!!

LUKE

[GoLfMan]

I'll believe it when I see it

if i do see it, Im buying one

[balkanac]

I've had enough of golfs. I want that Scirocco R20 or R45, whatever they decide to put in it. Although 390hp golf sounds good too

[Sharkie]

I've had enough of golfs. I want that Scirocco R20 or R45, whatever they decide to put in it. Although 390hp golf sounds good too

I'm pretty much the same .... altough a R20T was just too good to pass on ..... considering I'm planning some substantial upgrades .......

I'm actually holding out for the upcoming Porsche Cayman with the TTS engine rumoured to be due in 12mnths ........ would dump the R20t in a heartbeat for that ......

[Golf Houso]

I'm actually holding out for the upcoming Porsche Cayman with the TTS engine rumoured to be due in 12mnths ........ would dump the R20t in a heartbeat for that ......

Wouldn't it still be twice as much as the golf model though?

[Sharkie]

Wouldn't it still be twice as much as the golf model though?

Yes but it will actually go around corners really well ...... I've seen Guy's Cayman S do quicker lap times than a GT3 ... so imagine decent power and more importantly massive torque (once tuned) attached to that magnificent chassis .....

Cost ? well its rumoured to be for the entry model into the Cayman range .... ... so cheaper than the others .... go figure, I'd buy it over any of the others ....

[Jmac]

Ive worked for Porsche for a long time and worked and driven both vehicles, as well as with Tomas Mezera at Mt Cotton and although the Cayman is one of my Favorites and is a truly awesome car i must say i think the driver in the Gt3 must have been asleep that day
Jmac

[Sharkie]

Ive worked for Porsche for a long time and worked and driven both vehicles, as well as with Tomas Mezera at Mt Cotton and although the Cayman is one of my Favorites and is a truly awesome car i must say i think the driver in the Gt3 must have been asleep that day
Jmac

LOL ... yes, he wasn't the quickest I've seen ....

but then again Guy's Cayman S is far from stock, in true Guy fashion he has thrown the works and then some at it......

[gregozedobe]

FSI = Direct Injection normally aspirated.

TSI = the new range of turbo, turbo+supercharged engines.

And if they ever put a straight supercharged motor (a la Audi's latest V6) into a Golf, then it will probably also have a TSI badge, just to keep the marketing boffins happy

[Jmac]

Yeah i know remember my apprentice still works at PCB
Bags me shot in your R20T mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers
Jmac

[hokenmk3]

And if they ever put a straight supercharged motor (a la Audi's latest V6) into a Golf, then it will probably also have a TSI badge, just to keep the marketing boffins happy

The letters F, T, S and I have specific meanings. I have explained them in this thread. The 1.4 GT has a turbo motor. The supercharger is like the first turbo in a twin turbo and only for reducing turbo lag and helping an earlier spool up. It is a "twin charger" system. If a VW had a supercharger and no turbocharger, it wouldn't get the T. VW don't flippantly throw letters and numbers together like bimmer does. They are intended to inform the buyer of which technologies the vehicles possess. Knowing what a boffin is might help one's fear of acronyms.

[gregozedobe]

VW don't flippantly throw letters and numbers together like bimmer does. They are intended to inform the buyer of which technologies the vehicles possess.

Your faith in the accuracy and integrity of the VW organisation is both admirable and heart warming, unfortunately the empirical evidence tells a different story

Until recently VW was using the TSI acronym only on the 1.4 GT engine (the "twincharger" one with with both a turbo and a supercharger), and TFSI for the 2.0 petrol engine with a turbo. These days both engines get the TSI acronym (as does the new cam chain driven version of the 2.0 turbo petrol).

For another example, look at the usage of the words "Bluetec", "BlueMotion" and "Adblue" in association with VW models being marketed as having superior fuel economy and/or emissions control).

If a VW had a supercharger and no turbocharger, it wouldn't get the T.

Sorry, not always (don't you just hate those annoying exceptions to the "rules" ) - the "VW Touareg V6 TSI Hybrid" - has, wait for it..... a supercharged V6 (and, unfortunately for your theory, nary a Turbo to be seen).

And just to be different, it seems Audi are marketing their version of the 3.0 V6 supercharged (ie no turbo) engine under the "TFSI" banner.

So until I see convincing evidence to the contrary, you can see why I will continue to hold the opinion that (unfortunately) those pesky marketing boffins have more say in this matter than the engineers and engine designers at VW.

[hokenmk3]

These days both engines get the TSI acronym (as does the new cam chain driven version of the 2.0 turbo petrol).

Sorry, not always (don't you just hate those annoying exceptions to the "rules" ) - the "VW Touareg V6 TSI Hybrid" - has, wait for it..... a supercharged V6 (and, unfortunately for your theory, nary a Turbo to be seen).

And just to be different, it seems Audi are marketing their version of the 3.0 V6 supercharged (ie no turbo) engine under the "TFSI" banner.

So until I see convincing evidence to the contrary, you can see why I will continue to hold the opinion that (unfortunately) those pesky marketing boffins have more say in this matter than the engineers and engine designers at VW.

Fair enough. Your point is valid. It does seem that the VW marketing division has decided to cash in on the cliche of TFSI. They still have throttle-plated manifolds and are charged by a compressor rather than a roller so it is still describing the vehicle's tech. VW own Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini and the off shoots (as I'm sure you are aware) so in these difficult times of reduced new vehicle sales, marketing needs to squeeze their past success for every ounce it's worth.

SI makes a cool noise with an airpod!