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  • Anyone using 235 Michelin Pilot Super Sport on the 18" detroits at stock height? Looking to replace the Potenza's and wondering if it would rub. I know SFA about tyres/wheels.

    Thanks
    Last edited by AntR; 30-04-2013, 02:12 PM.
    MK6 Golf GTI MY11 / Gunmetal Grey / 3dr / DSG / 18" Detroit / R Tails / APR Stage 1 + Carbonio CAI / 14.26 @ 97.32mph

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    • Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
      I know this is a fairly conservative move compared to what other people are running, but I am trying to avoid having to fiddle with things to much.
      Follow up to my own post/query.

      I think I know the answer, but anyone running 18x8 ET45 on a GTI, does the wheel itself project beyond the body when viewed from above? (and if the text is familiar, yes it's the govt spiel).

      I'm guessing technically yes, on the basis this set-up is +12mm over stock (Detroits), and I believe the Golf Rs fitted with Talladegas in 19x8 ET50 (+7mm over stock) did/still come with some plastic lips to meet ADRs?

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      • Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
        Follow up to my own post/query.

        I think I know the answer, but anyone running 18x8 ET45 on a GTI, does the wheel itself project beyond the body when viewed from above? (and if the text is familiar, yes it's the govt spiel).

        I'm guessing technically yes, on the basis this set-up is +12mm over stock (Detroits), and I believe the Golf Rs fitted with Talladegas in 19x8 ET50 (+7mm over stock) did/still come with some plastic lips to meet ADRs?
        i was running 19x8.5 et45 and they sat basically perfectly fine even lowered on coils. no poke, also no rubbing until i basically had my coils maxed out...tyres were 225/35/19.

        18x8 et45 shouldn't be a hassle in regards to protruding out of the fender

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        • New Rims - 17 v 18 inch

          I'm due for a new set of tyres, and was thinking of upgrading to the 18 inch Detroits at the same time (I have the stock 17 inch on at the moment).

          Has anyone done this? Have you noticed any change in the performance of the car?

          If the car perfoms better then I will get them for sure.

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          • How much for a set of four?
            2010 | Mk 6 | Golf GTI | DSG | black | 18" Detroit's | MDI

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            • And where from.... I'm interested in upgrading to Detroits too!

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              • Don't think you'll get any performance improvement, just a looks improvement. The ride will be firmer too, really depends what your end game is.

                Keep an eye out on the for sale ads, they crop up now and then as people upgrade to other wheels - I'm doing likewise but will probably just keep mine to return it to stock later down the track if need be.

                --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
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                • Technically, the car will be fractionally slower when accelerating, because bigger (i.e. heavier) wheels and tyres take more energy to spin, though you really won't be able to tell unless you have a stopwatch.

                  In addition, the slightly bigger diameter of the 18" tyre has the effect of lengthening the gear ratios out a tiny bit, which slows acceleration - but again, not easily noticeable.
                  Last edited by Diesel_vert; 13-05-2013, 01:54 AM.

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                  • Thanks all. I think if it's going to be overly expensive I will stick with what I have (until I upgrade ). I'm waiting on the dealer to get back to me with a quote.

                    In relation to the acceleration, do you think the 18 inch will grip better on the road. I know if I put my foot down from a stopped position I lose a fair bit of traction.

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                    • No noticeable difference.. if you want Detroits look second hand, the stealers price will make your eyes water.

                      --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                      2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                      2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                      2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                      • Originally posted by Skistra View Post
                        Thanks all. I think if it's going to be overly expensive I will stick with what I have (until I upgrade ). I'm waiting on the dealer to get back to me with a quote.

                        In relation to the acceleration, do you think the 18 inch will grip better on the road. I know if I put my foot down from a stopped position I lose a fair bit of traction.
                        Wider and lower profile tyres can potentially lead to more traction, due to the wider but shorter shape of the contact patch, compared to narrower and higher profile tyres (even though the actual area of the contact patch remains nearly constant).

                        However, the characteristics of the tyre itself plays a much bigger influence.

                        One can just as easily purchase a durable and humdrum 225/40 R18 tyre designed for touring and low rolling-resistance, as a fast-wearing and sporty 225/45 R17 tyre designed for maximum grip and adhesion.

                        In other words, a good 225/45 R17 is better than a poor 225/40 R18 tyre in nearly most cases.


                        Sometimes, you need to upgrade to bigger wheels and in order to gain access to grippy, high-performance tyres, but you shouldn't have much issues with 225/45 R17 - plenty of options available.

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                        • This may be a silly question, and I'll freely admit I'm a bit clueless when it comes to tryes, but here goes.

                          The front tyres on my Mk6 GTI (Bridgestone RE050 225/45R17) are just about down to the cords, but the rears still have plenty of tread left. I know i probably should have rotated them earlier in life, but unfortunately never got round to it.

                          After reading around, I'll probably go for the Goodyear Eagle Asy 2's... there should be no dramas getting just the 2 for the front, and leaving the existing RE050's on the back, right?
                          Last edited by nickSFC; 24-05-2013, 05:46 PM.

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                          • [QUOTE=nickSFC;954689]This may be a silly question, and I'll freely admit I'm a bit clueless when it comes to tryes, but here goes.

                            The front tyres on my Mk6 GTI (Bridgestone RE050 225/45R17) are just about down to the cords, but the rears still have plenty of tread left. I know i probably should have rotated them earlier in life, but unfortunately never got round to it.

                            After reading around, I'll probably go for the Goodyear Eagle Asy 2's... there should be no dramas getting just the 2 for the front, and leaving the existing RE050's on the back, right?[/QUO

                            yes, u can do that.
                            however, i cant understand how u never got around to it? just tell the mechanic to rotate every 15k km service. should be part of the servicing (common sense).
                            unless u burnt thru the tyres in under 15k km, then its prob a driving issue or an alignment issue.
                            im currently at 37k km on my original set of tyres and they still have plenty left
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                            • No dramas at all but I'd put the new on the rear & the rears on the front (put the L on the R & vice versa).

                              If you are really set on putting the new ones on the front then keep an eye on the tread depth & when the fronts equal the rears put the rears on the front
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                              • Originally posted by walbjj View Post
                                however, i cant understand how u never got around to it? just tell the mechanic to rotate every 15k km service. should be part of the servicing (common sense).
                                My sister has just thrown away 2 back tyres at 25,000km because McGraths at Sutherland never recommended tyre rotation in the 2 services she has had done so far.

                                According to the Service Advisor at McGraths "It's up to the owner to monitor the tyres & ask for tyre rotation"
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