mk6 dealer negotiations

[Corey_R]

no... there is no news, I was just saying that since a 5% reduction on price that an Australian car company buys their cars from the manufacturing plant equals about 3% that you could say that the cost of a car typically only makes 60% of the sale price. But as I was saying, there are a lot of different factors, those numbers are very in precise, and every manufacturer and car model will obviously vary.

[cancerstar]

Newbie seeks input

Hi all,

Thanks for the valuable information here in the forum.

I'm interested in buying a 118TSI and got a quote from a NSW dealer last weekend.

I think it's dearer after reading most of the posts here.

Quote is $43,139 driveaway with discount for
Metallic paint
MDI
RCD510 premium audio
Sport pack leather with ACC
Textile mat

Might add
slimline weather shields
mudflaps
towbar
sat nav

Anyone out there with the similar spec and mind I ask how much you have paid?

Thanks and much appreciate your input.

NT

[mattyf83]

Hi all,

Thanks for the valuable information here in the forum.

I'm interested in buying a 118TSI and got a quote from a NSW dealer last weekend.

I think it's dearer after reading most of the posts here.

Quote is $43,139 driveaway with discount for
Metallic paint
MDI
RCD510 premium audio
Sport pack leather with ACC
Textile mat

Might add
slimline weather shields
mudflaps
towbar
sat nav

Anyone out there with the similar spec and mind I ask how much you have paid?

Thanks and much appreciate your input.

NT

I think with some hard negotiation you could almost get a 5 door DSG GTI with MDI for about 1000 extra, RCD510 is standard, and do you need ACC with a 118TSI?

[Nath]

Hi all,

Thanks for the valuable information here in the forum.

I'm interested in buying a 118TSI and got a quote from a NSW dealer last weekend.

I think it's dearer after reading most of the posts here.

Quote is $43,139 driveaway with discount for
Metallic paint
MDI
RCD510 premium audio
Sport pack leather with ACC
Textile mat

Might add
slimline weather shields
mudflaps
towbar
sat nav

Anyone out there with the similar spec and mind I ask how much you have paid?

Thanks and much appreciate your input.

NT

I have to agree with Mattyf, I have an almost 2 week old GTI with MDI and Reverse park sensors and got it for $43,900 on the road, so for the extra $800 you can get a GTI, for the 118 I'd be looking at a bit more of a discount even with ACC (which I'm not sure you need) or get them to throw in the satnav and other stuff for free, then you'll have a good deal.

According to the cost spreadsheet off here that spec should retail in NSW for $43,905 plus the RCD510 and the textile mat so I guess you're seeing a couple of $K off the retail, but not much.

[Corey_R]

The GTI wouldn't have leather for that price. Nor the Dynaudio. That immediately adds $4800. Add the ACC and you're up to $6400. So if he don't have the additional $6400 to spend, then I can understand sticking with the 118TSI. There is more to a car than just performance, and maybe cancerstar values the comfort and luxury of nice leather, good sound, and adjustable spring rates?!

[cancerstar]

Good sound + leather = ultimate comfort . When I read Shori's post that he's got his GTI for $50K without corporate discount. It's an ideal package for me and I am wondering whether the pricing (in delivery and etc) in NSW is different from Vic?

Sorry I forgot to mention that the price quoted is for a DSG.

Hey Nath, which car yard did you go?

If they can offer me the same what Shori's gotten, I am a happy man.

NT

[Corey_R]

I am wondering whether the pricing (in delivery and etc) in NSW is different from Vic?

Yeah it is. NSW attracts a 3% stamp duty up to $45,000, but then charges 5% on the amounts above $45,000.

VIC charges 2.5% stamp duty up to $57,009. So any car under that value (inc all options, gst, dealer delivery etc) will be slightly cheaper in VIC than NSW.

HOWEVER. Once the car is above $57,009, VIC charges 5% stamp duty on the entire amount! So not just on the amount above the threshold like in NSW. Meaning that any car above $57k in VIC will be more expensive than in NSW. Source

In addition, dealer delivery may differ (but then it differs dealer to dealer anyway), and CTP and registration costs will also differ.

[nicandlance]

Been offered the following

Just been down to Barloworld and been offered the following deal....

Candy white (manual) 118tsi
with sports pack
floor mats

$31,807
- trade in (2006 Beetle tdi - 32,000k's one owner, sunroof and alloys) $14,000

Changeover of $17,807 driveaway.

What do you think?

[KWICKS]

What did you originally post that you wanted for the trade in?

Edit: Found you said car was valued at $10200 - $13000 with more kms and you wanted changeover under $18K. Seems you hit that mark. Rather than screwing for a few extra dollars, given the price looks reasonable, not brilliant, to me, you migth consider additional options if there was something relatively inexpensive you thought you might like?

[nicandlance]

Thought I should get $14,000 minimum for trade in. 'Drive' said that as a trade in, to expect between $11000 and $13000 for my model (2006 Beetle tdi).
That was based on one that has done 20,000 k's a year.

Mine has done 10,000 k's a year, plus it has a sunroof and alloys. One owner and serviced by VW.
Do you think what I've been offered is a good deal or do you think I could do better? Haven't signed on the dotted line yet.

[nicandlance]

MDI or more?
I'd actually rather screw him down a few more dollars if it were possible. Just want to know whether it's possible or am I asking too much?

[KWICKS]

Did you compare yourself to the spreadsheet? You've done considerably better than some of the early adopters.

What did Mazda offer?

[KWICKS]

$36125.70 RRP, $31807 Quote, Discount = $4318.7 (11.95%). Best discount for a non corp customer is 13.8%. Making an offer of $31500 gives you a discount of 12.8% (attainable probably if spreadhseet history is good), $31000 makes it 14.2% (you'd have received the biggest discount of everyone - unlikely?).

I'll assume a full tank of PULP and premium plates are standard dealer delivery items.

[nicandlance]

$36125.70 RRP, $31807 Quote, Discount = $4318.7 (11.95%). Best discount for a non corp customer is 13.8%. Making an offer of $31500 gives you a discount of 12.8% (attainable probably if spreadhseet history is good), $31000 makes it 14.2% (you'd have received the biggest discount of everyone - unlikely?).

I'll assume a full tank of PULP and premium plates are standard dealer delivery items.

The quote I was given was with Corp discount....
So I should ask for slightly better?
Perhaps $31,500, Full tank, mats and premium plates?

[Nath]

Good sound + leather = ultimate comfort . When I read Shori's post that he's got his GTI for $50K without corporate discount. It's an ideal package for me and I am wondering whether the pricing (in delivery and etc) in NSW is different from Vic?

Sorry I forgot to mention that the price quoted is for a DSG.

Hey Nath, which car yard did you go?

If they can offer me the same what Shori's gotten, I am a happy man.

NT

I used McGrath in Sutherland, pretty good service/knowledge etc. Didn't realise the previous quote included Dynaudio, as for leather and ACC not sure why you'd want it in the 118 but its your car, and the leather is nice but I'm a fan of the cloth in the GTI.

I'm sure you'll love the 118 though everyone does