Pirelli engine vs MK6 engine

[pirelli]

and with the mk7 not too far away aswell, .

really the Mk5 ran for 6 yrs so it would be a surprise to see the Mk7 anytime soon

[team_v]

really the Mk5 ran for 6 yrs so it would be a surprise to see the Mk7 anytime soon

The mk6 is a facelift of the mk5, not a completely new model per se`
This can be shown from the vin number notifying a mk5 build.


The new A3/Golf platform will be released late 2011 and will probably arrive on our shores mid-late 2012

[G-rig]

well s3 is like 80k and golf r is 65k... can't really be compared really. for the extra money = awd or they could of spent the money on more power.

by the time you do too many mods on a GTI/Pirelli, you could put that money towards a better car (ie one with AWD). Otherwise too much power is pointless and enjoy them for what they are (and enough of this crap 'my car which is cheaper with a retune is faster than your more expensive car without one').

[Sharkie]

oh no straight line speed too bad once it hits a corner, you would have to slam on your brakes, or else you would tip over.

Golf is a hot hatch, its all round abilities as a driver's car is better than a tig. You can mod it all you want with the tig, it is still a suv! It doesn't drive like a nimble hatch.

Stage 1 for the tig would give you 189kw... and yet with 189kw the pirelli would still burn the tig even with 2WD.

Like i said before, there is no way a tig can cut 2-3 seconds off 0-100. good luck imagining it though. (with the 2-3 seconds off, it would still only be the same speed as pirelli)

Mate, how does 5.8s 0-100km/h grab you .... compared to the relatively puny 6.6s of the Pirelli stock .... .... and a 315kw GTI can do only 6s (as tested by Motor magazine) so good luck with a 250kw Pirelli getting close ....

And how many corners do you take at more than 100km/h anyway ... LOL ...

Go out and experience these things .... get a real education .... and then come back and tell us about it ....

I've built a 12s qrtr FWD VW and know all about how to make it work and would give up many many many kws for AWD anyday ....

LOL ... you people that think you know it all ... you crack me up....

[pirelli]

Here you go sort it out here

http://aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=81524

[guest12345]

The point is, you will barely see any of the extra power as you won't be able to get it to the ground.
You then have to consider how often you would even be using that obsene amount of pirelli power (which won't be manageable in FWD form) if you choose to upgrade instead of buying an AWD VAG alternative.

Is it justified when most of your driving will be commuting or going to the shopping centre to pick up stuff for dinner?

thats not my point, people were comparing the s3 to pirelli, and i responded with they can't be compared as the S3 is 80k, and yes it is an AWD.

by the time you do too many mods on a GTI/Pirelli, you could put that money towards a better car (ie one with AWD). Otherwise too much power is pointless and enjoy them for what they are (and enough of this crap 'my car which is cheaper with a retune is faster than your more expensive car without one').

I have no intentions to do many or any mods at all, i have no need to. I understand that the car is FWD therefore too much power won't effect it by much. I have a 135i and a ducati desmo, so i'm not looking for speed in the pirelli.

Mate, how does 5.8s 0-100km/h grab you .... compared to the relatively puny 6.6s of the Pirelli stock .... .... and a 315kw GTI can do only 6s (as tested by Motor magazine) so good luck with a 250kw Pirelli getting close ....

And how many corners do you take at more than 100km/h anyway ... LOL ...

Go out and experience these things .... get a real education .... and then come back and tell us about it ....

I've built a 12s qrtr FWD VW and know all about how to make it work and would give up many many many kws for AWD anyday ....

LOL ... you people that think you know it all ... you crack me up....

and lastly just for fun .... had a tangle with a HSV R8 317 a few days ago ... guess where he ended up jumping on the gas on a very slightly slippery surface at the lights .... admiring a Tigs taillights as it comfortably merged in front of him thats were ... and thats a 5s car there ... so bring your Pirelli ... I look forward to it ....

i very much doubt 75kw would increase 2.4 seconds (manual) or 3.4 seconds (auto) for a tig. thats all i have to say. Unless you've spend alot more money than just mods you've claimed.

As i said, it is a tig. what else do i need to say?

[triode12]

I don't mind the look of them, in fact I reckon most VWs have it in the bag compared to their rivals. If I were in the market for a car like that, I'd certainly buy one over a RAV4 or Honda or whatever.

But that doesn't alter the fact they will tip over if you go to fast in one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi8BRIaYWBk

I rather have the RAV4 or the Holden Captiva wrt to looks. Both are streets ahead in that dept IMO.

[Transporter]

I think that these discussions lead to nowhere, so is this thread.

[kryten2001]

Mate, how does 5.8s 0-100km/h grab you .... compared to the relatively puny 6.6s of the Pirelli stock .... .... and a 315kw GTI can do only 6s (as tested by Motor magazine) so good luck with a 250kw Pirelli getting close ....

And how many corners do you take at more than 100km/h anyway ... LOL ...

6.6 seconds is a stock pirelli, not a modified one, and it's quite conservative at that.

A heavily modified one will push through 6's very easily. Plus it will go around corners, and it doesn't look like a shopping cart.

Anyway whatever floats your boat I suppose.

The other thing to realise is the power is most definately usable. Sure you get a lot of wheelspin off the line (which is controllable), but all that power comes in very handy all the way though every gear. You can trust me that I'm quite thankful of the power when I'm accelerating through 100km/h.

Granted in the wet it's a freaking handful..

Show us some 1/4 mile slips that get into the 13s and I'll be impressed with its straight line speed, but you'll never convince me it'll go around corners or stop very well.

AWD is great, don't get me wrong, but in a SUV the point is kinda moot.

[G-rig]

Mate, how does 5.8s 0-100km/h grab you .... compared to the relatively puny 6.6s of the Pirelli stock .... .... and a 315kw GTI can do only 6s (as tested by Motor magazine) so good luck with a 250kw Pirelli getting close ....

0-100 in 5.5s is very good from the Stock R in comparison.. goes to show AWD is the key, and with a retune should be aroudn 5.0s.

thats not my point, people were comparing the s3 to pirelli, and i responded with they can't be compared as the S3 is 80k, and yes it is an AWD.

You can get S3's cheaper than that with a good discount, my point is better off getting one than spending 100k on a Pirelli and still wont be as good to drive (great job on the car though).

[Guy_H]

I think a Golf R AWD with a BMW 135i motor (DMS enhanced) at the weight of a Polo GTI & with Porsche Carrera GT brakes would kick all your butts :0

[kryten2001]

I think a Golf R AWD with a BMW 135i motor (DMS enhanced) at the weight of a Polo GTI & with Porsche Carrera GT brakes would kick all your butts :0

It most certainly would.

[noone]

0-100 in 5.5s is very good from the Stock R in comparison.. goes to show AWD is the key, and with a retune should be aroudn 5.0s.

Really? 1/2 a second off the stock time is going to be difficult to achieve, more power is good but its still only a few hundred kw's.

[Servo]

I think a Golf R AWD with a BMW 135i motor (DMS enhanced) at the weight of a Polo GTI & with Porsche Carrera GT brakes would kick all your butts :0

This is the unicorn in my dreams.

This thread is going no where but I find really amusing. I think you guys just have to agree to disagree.

[G-rig]

Re: Pirelli engine vs MK6 engine

The answer is get a motorbike if you want to go fast J.