APR Polo VS APR Golf 5

[Petrina Polo]

My research indicates the following...

APR Polo software upgrade only is worth 152kw and 330nm in a 1200kg car.. 0-100km 6.1 secs and 0-400metres in 14.3s..

APR software only Golf 5 is 188kw with APR and 410nm... 0-100km ??? =-400m ???


Which car is ultimately quicker?

[Golf Houso]

There have been GTI's with minor mods, one a GIAC car I know of with just the software pulled a 13.9, as for a few other mods and launch control mid to high 13's should be more than possible, so yeah the GTI will be faster with equivalent mods no matter what you do.

[Guy_H]

Have a customer with an 06' Golf GTI DSG.

APR software & exhaust only - ran 13.7 on his first outing to the track.

[RhysQ]

Which car is ultimately quicker?

MK5 Golf GTI....by what would seem to be about 1/2 to 3/4 of a second on the quarter mile.

anyone got any 'self tested' 0-100 times for the chipped Golf, i would have thought it would be around 6 seconds flat, maybe a slice under.

[Petrina Polo]

I reckon a Polo GTi with APR chip and exhaust would be good for a flat 14 second pass as well..

I might just run mine to see how I go..

[Maverick]

anyone got any 'self tested' 0-100 times for the chipped Golf, i would have thought it would be around 6 seconds flat, maybe a slice under.

Standard DSG Golf GTI using launch control is not far off 6 seconds according to a number of reviews that have been done. You'd expect a similar improvement from a chip so around mid to high 5's should be doable.

[dkgti]

Standard DSG Golf GTI using launch control is not far off 6 seconds according to a number of reviews that have been done. You'd expect a similar improvement from a chip so around mid to high 5's should be doable.

With all due respect, I highly doubt the 6second claim.

Trust me, I have a GTI with DSG and previously owned a nissan s15. The GTI is reasonably quick and torque but it is not an acceleration king.

Stock I reckon it would be a struggle to match the factory claim of 6.9 sec for the 0-100 sprint.

[jasn78]

I reckon a Polo GTi with APR chip and exhaust would be good for a flat 14 second pass as well..

I might just run mine to see how I go..

so far 14.3 on street and i mean street not street slicks "me" 13.9 something on semi slicks "kai"

and mine is a bit more than just chip and xhaust, traction is the issue

[RhysQ]

I think for the purpose of this thread, DSG's should be left out of the comparison. The Polo GTI's are only available in manual therefore only manual chipped GTI's should be compared.
Just my 2c.

[Maverick]

I think for the purpose of this thread, DSG's should be left out of the comparison. The Polo GTI's are only available in manual therefore only manual chipped GTI's should be compared.
Just my 2c.

Why? I'm pretty sure that most buyers of the GTI's take the DSG so it's a fair comparison if most Golf GTI's have one gearbox and ALL the Polo GTI's have another gearbox.

[RhysQ]

Yes but if the Polo had a DSG gearbox, it would be faster. The only REAL comparison of the two is running the same gear, not a faster shifting box in one. It defeats the whole purpose.

[Maverick]

Yes but if the Polo had a DSG gearbox, it would be faster. The only REAL comparison of the two is running the same gear, not a faster shifting box in one. It defeats the whole purpose.

If you want to buy the fastest polo you have no choice but a manual, if you want to buy the fastest golf you buy the dsg of which the majority are sold with.

[Maverick]

With all due respect, I highly doubt the 6second claim.

Look at other cars with launch control and the times that they get with and without launch control and it's about right.

EVO magazine was getting around .7 seconds faster times with launch control.

Trust me, I have a GTI with DSG and previously owned a nissan s15. The GTI is reasonably quick and torque but it is not an acceleration king.

Stock I reckon it would be a struggle to match the factory claim of 6.9 sec for the 0-100 sprint.

Plenty of people have. German car manufacturers have to be conservative with their times or they'll be sued. Most of these are to 97kph but you can see the times are all around 6 to 6.5 seconds for the DSG. There are heaps of reviews that have been done and they've all used accurate equipment to measure.

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2546a.shtml

0-60 mph: 6.5 seconds

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_guide/volkswagen/gti/2008_volkswagen_gti_3_door/2008_volkswagen_gti_feature

0 to 60 happens in six seconds flat

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/long_term_road_tests/2006_volkswagen_gti_long_term_road_test+t-the_gti_s_reputation+page-3.html

It can run from 0 to 60 in 6.0 seconds

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_guide/volkswagen/gti/2007_volkswagen_gti_3_door/2007_volkswagen_gti_feature

Zero to 60 mph: 6.0 sec

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_guide/volkswagen/gti/volkswagen_gti_feature

VW GTI returns a 6.4-second 0-to-60-mph (manual)

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/vw_audi_performance/volkswagen_gti_short_take_road_test

"For all-out acceleration, DSG has a launch-control feature in which the engine holds at 3000 rpm and, when the brake pedal is released, takes off with a tuned amount of clutch slip and wheelspin. Using this method, we managed a 6.0-second 0-to-60-mph sprint and a 14.7-second quarter-mile at 95 mph, even though we thought the computer allowed too much wheelspin.

That acceleration to 60 mph shames the GLI's and A3's by 1.1 and 0.5 seconds, respectively. And the quarter-mile is only 0.4 second slower than that of the limited-production, 240-hp hot-rod R32."

http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/gti/2008/review.html

For a GTI with the regular six-speed manual, expect a 0-60-mph time of about 6.7 seconds.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/garage/83506-volkswagen-gti-slower-according-their-website.html

The R&T Dec 2007 issue I have infront of me puts the Si at 6.8, and the GTI at 6.3

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-77243.html

"I was reading motortrends review of the 2008 gti (fsi version) and it says
"The 16-valve turbo churns out 200 hp at 5100 rpm and 207 lb-ft of torque from 1800 rpm up to 5000, with a 6500-rpm redline. All that boosted power is good for 0-to-60 sprints in 6.1 sec and a quarter mile of 14.7 sec at 94.2 mph in our test car." "

[Sharkie]

Golf GTI not only has power to weight advantage but also a big traction advantage.

BUT

here is something to ponder ..... a chipped Tiguan would probably be quicker than both ........

slightly worse power to weight ratios but much much better traction......

Imagine how embarrasing it would be in your chipped GTI (Polo or Golf) to be beaten by a SUV .......

[BarneyBoy]

Jeez, Mav - is your middle name Google?