FYI: Remote keyless entry

[rayray086]

HAHAHA YES IT WORKS! Positive 30 second signal to door lock wire (grey one) closes all windows upon locking.

Edit: For mine, the grey wire must be cut first, and the positive window closure wire connected to the wire leading to the doors.

[The_Hawk]

HAHAHA YES IT WORKS! Positive 30 second signal to door lock wire (grey one) closes all windows upon locking.

Edit: For mine, the grey wire must be cut first, and the positive window closure wire connected to the wire leading to the doors.

Am I right in saying it's an all or nothing approach?

[rayray086]

Yep, all windows wind up and won't stop until they're all up, since the signal is switched on for 30 seconds. Not really desirable for me since I usually leave my windows a smidge open when at my place, especially in summer, to vent hot air out. Oh well, small compromise.

[The_Hawk]

I need to fix my one backwards window before I get this hooked up

Still nice work on getting it all together.

[stevenYM]

Dear RayRay086 & Hawk

I have been following this thread from the UK as I'm thinking of buying one of the Rightclick kits for my recently purchased 2000 Golf Cabriolet. I'm grateful for all the informations you've shared.

I'm still a little confused about precisely what you've done and how I might do the same.

I was thinking of buying the rightclick kit KE50RPLUS and from what RayRay has said I simply need to follow the instructions on the website... but I'm a little apprehensive that I'll be able to work out quite what to do.

From what you've said it seems that you can't get the remote to lock the car without automatically closing the windows. Equally I presume everytime you open the door the windows all open?? Is that right?

Thanks for any further help.

Steven

[The_Hawk]

From what you've said it seems that you can't get the remote to lock the car without automatically closing the windows. Equally I presume everytime you open the door the windows all open?? Is that right?

Steven, firstly welcome aboard! Head over to the newbies section and introduce yourself properly, always happy to have another member.


As for the kit, I accidently purchased this kit which includes actuators which I didn't need since I was hooking up to the vacuum pump. The kit Rayray got didn't have them, as it turns out the wiring was also different.


In both cases you do not have to hook up the window closure function and can just use the remote central locking part, you can also leave out the flashing light hookup if you wish.

In both kits case it is only supposed to support closing the windows, not opening the windows AFAIK as it has a seperate line which outputs power for 30 seconds which should be time enough to close even the slowest of windows.

The way I have set up my kit it's possible to set it up like you said with the windows always opening and closing with the locks (although I can only output 3.5 seconds of power to open/close the windows so the slower ones wont go all the way), although I don't believe thats not how it's supposed to be setup.



On another note I have a question for those in the know. With these kits outputting power for 30 seconds to close the windows, I assume it would be like holding the up button for 30 seconds regardless of if the window is shut or not.

Would it be detrimental to the window regs/motors to be trying to close for 30 seconds even if the window actually closed in say 5 seconds? Or does the reg itself have a cut out or something when the window stops moving?

[stevenYM]

Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand that the rightclick module comes with all sorts of connections as you've said but that you only need to connect a few of them. As for the 30 second pulse I presume that from your description the pulse is 30 secs irrespective of how long you press the remote button down. I reckon that eventually this probably will knacker the window mechanism.

I did come accross this site on the web:

http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed/Campingart/jettatech/alarmtext.htm

If you look at the video on the site you see that it seems by only making a few connections that you can gain a lot of functionality. From what you've said it seems that the rightclick modules cannot do the same with so few connections. Would value your further thoughts...

...though it is now 2am here in the UK and I may need to pick this up again tomorrow evening...

Thanks in advance.

Steven

[The_Hawk]

Steven,

The kit you reference seems to have the ability to hold the connection as long as you hold the button on the remote, it would hook up the same way mine does, but that "hold feature" is what I'm missing making the windows up/down an option. A cool party trick, but not something I will be loosing sleep over nothaving. The ability to run to the car in the rain and not be fumbling for the keys is enough for me

The next question is, do you want the unbelievably cool option of the switchbalde in a Mk3? (Or a boring fob remote)

Aaron.

[rayray086]

stevenYM - welcome to the forums! I bought the same kit (Omega REC43T) as in your link at first, thinking I can follow the instructions straight off and get a fully functioning keyless remote and window closure/opening. I tried wiring it in as shown in the diagrams and I got no response whatsoever. I could've tried more wiring connections to see if I can get it sussed out but at the time I was lacking enough knowledge in electrical schematics (as well as our Mk3 locks), and ended up returning the product.

What I have wired in right now is according to this diagram, using the RightClick unit (KE60):



The white wire was connected to the black/red wire that leads to the central locking motor in the hatch, whereas the orange/black wire was connected to the black/red wire that leads to the doors.

The green wire (12V- 30 second signal) was connected to a relay system to reverse the polarity to 12V+. This was then connected to the grey wire (the lock wire for our cars, as pointed out in other instructions) leading to the doors, while the grey wire leading to the pump was insulated as it was no longer required.

Having all that wired in provided me with central lock with window closure and central unlock.

So now that I'm thinking back, maybe using the lock/unlock wires in the same fashion as the above schematic could've provided me with a working keyless entry unit, and with the jumper set in the "live pulse for duration of depressed remote button" and the wires tapped into the grey/green lock/unlock wires of the car, I could possibly have total control over window close/open when locking/unlocking the car... but silly me had to return it for a little bit of money back

[peedman]

Where did u get the omega one from ray?? In summary the rightclick model will let u wind the windows up but not down. The omega one will let u do both.

[rayray086]

Omega one was bought from mypushcart.com - they don't usually do overseas shipping so their cost for shipping was pretty much the same price as the unit itself.

[stevenYM]

Hi RayRay - thanks for your help. I wasn't clear from your response if you think the rightclick model can be made to work with different jumper settings i.e. with the jumper set "live pulse for duration of depressed remote button" or if you're saying that it was the omega one that had that setting??

I looked at the instructions on the rightclick website and it really says very little about jumpers.

What do you think I should do... go with a right click system or buy an omega one as I'm not too bothered by the flip fob? Thanks again.

Steven

[rayray086]

I was referring the "live pulse for duration of depressed remote button" jumper setting to the Omega one. From memory the Omega one had 4 different settings! The Rightclick one has only two jumper settings for the locking/unlocking - 0.5s and 3.5s pulse.

The thing is, I don't know if Omega one should still work... like I said before, I tried it out and it didn't work for me. I didn't understand why and wished I still have the unit to experiment more but alas I don't... Completely up to you mate - I read about the Rightclick unit first in a UK site actually. golfgti.co.uk I think it was.

[stevenYM]

Thanks RayRay

Have been doing a lot more web searching. Have read your posts on this topics on lots of different sitesgoing back over almost a year. The VAG version is beginning to look more attractive now but its more than I wanted to spend...there is a credit crunch after all...

Steven

[stevenYM]

Just thought I would let you all know I fitted the VAG remote device and it was amazingly easy. The windows open and close from the remote like having the key in the lock.

I don't quite know how to connect the wires they give you to the indicator lights to make them flash but if some one can let me know I might try it.

Thanks for all yor help.

Steven