Scirocco r mods

[Mac135]

Yes the price of the ACC KW coilovers are challenging aren't they?

Seem like a top product though.

[RoccoR]

Yeah they seem like a top quality product. You can't go wrong with German made.
I think I might go the VWR springs at least for now.

[Andych]

So the ride is definitely harsher with the springs. Damn it i guess u can't have ur cake and eat it too
That is of course unless u spend some serious $$$ and get the KW coil overs with ACC plug and play.
I was looking at these also before I started considering the VWR springs but the price is simply not attractive.

Actually I think you will find either the VWR or Eibach springs to actually ride better than Stock... VWR are made by Eibach specifically for VWR but the premise is still the same...Ride comfort should be better than stock..
I have Eibach and I can comfortably drive around all day every day in sport mode if I want..and I certainly could not do that with the Stock springs.... it was just too harsh.
Comfort setting is a little more compliant.. to be honest... I dont think I have ever had mine in Normal...lol

[RoccOwner]

I'm abit confused ...the vwr springs make the ride less harsh and more comfortable ? Thought it would go the other way and be harsher, feel the bumps more etc ?!?

[Bain]

Actually I think you will find either the VWR or Eibach springs to actually ride better than Stock... VWR are made by Eibach specifically for VWR but the premise is still the same...Ride comfort should be better than stock..
I have Eibach and I can comfortably drive around all day every day in sport mode if I want..and I certainly could not do that with the Stock springs.... it was just too harsh.
Comfort setting is a little more compliant.. to be honest... I dont think I have ever had mine in Normal...lol

Let the guy have his opinon ffs Andy.. you arent always right.

I'm abit confused ...the vwr springs make the ride less harsh and more comfortable ? Thought it would go the other way and be harsher, feel the bumps more etc ?!?

It does, Andy just cant accept anyone elses opinions.

Less travel = firmer ride otherwise the springs would bottom out.

[Tim]

I'm abit confused ...the vwr springs make the ride less harsh and more comfortable ? Thought it would go the other way and be harsher, feel the bumps more etc ?!?

The VWR springs we have had through our workshop seemed to be a lower springrate than the stock Scirocco ones.

[Mac135]

Tim,

So I take that to mean that they are more compliant and less harsh despite the reduced ride height. Is that right?

Is so they sound like a good thing.

[Andych]

Ummm I am not sure what has got up your nose... but if you hadn't realised I was giving MY opinion..

And you are WRONG by saying that lower means harsher...it is all about spring rates...wire thickness etc... The VWR ones are Linear not progressive and while initially may be a higher than initial rate on the factory spring they will be lower overall...still firm but not as harsh...
This allows the shocks to actually do what they are meant to do.... Absorb shocks

The Eibach springs that I have are progressive but are a lower rate than the factory springs and with a different progression... hence I have better ride than stock... and the handling is improved as is traction...

I could not drive around my local area in Sport with the factory springs... they were way too harsh and would crash on the slightest bump... so I tended to drive mostly in Comfort until I fitted the Eibachs....

Let the guy have his opinon ffs Andy.. you arent always right.


It does, Andy just cant accept anyone elses opinions.

Less travel = firmer ride otherwise the springs would bottom out.

[RoccoR]

Wow lots of discussion. I like this though cos I really need to once and for all work out if I get these springs or not. If Andy is right then they sound great!! I don't want to compromise an already very firm ride on the rocco.
Seems that what Andy and Tim are saying is the same??

[Andych]

Wow lots of discussion. I like this though cos I really need to once and for all work out if I get these springs or not. If Andy is right then they sound great!! I don't want to compromise an already very firm ride on the rocco.
Seems that what Andy and Tim are saying is the same??

Hey.. don't just take what I am saying as gospel...give Tim a call and talk it over... Call Eibach in Sydney and talk to them as well...
Ultimately it is your bum on the seat that decides if it suits you or not....

Ultimately the KW with DCC is the best option... with the iPhone addition you can tailor each corner to suit your exact requirements in terms of bump and rebound etc... Talk to Dan down at RTR... their Golf R was far and away the best suspension setup in the Motor Hot Tuner Challenge so they really know what they are doing...
I have a few other little things to do before I consider the KW's... but I will get them eventually.

[Reginald]

Wow.... a lot of discussion going on about springs!

RoccoR, I've got a set of VWR springs that will be getting fitted to my rocco over the next couple of weeks so I can pass on my thoughts afterwards if you like? There's some horrible roads around Bendigo so I'll definitely know if the rides that little bit nicer haha

[BLAKROC]

I have 30-35mm H&R springs (Sourced: Orange Tuning in Germany) installed and don't really feel a whole lot of difference comfort wise to the stock setup tbh. Pretty decent for a driver's oriented car.

I use the 'Sport' ACC mode the same amount as I did with the stock setup which is probably 95% of the time. Looks a lot better visually too.

Definite Pros > Cons.. until I can justify the KW DCC system.

[RoccoR]

Wow.... a lot of discussion going on about springs!

RoccoR, I've got a set of VWR springs that will be getting fitted to my rocco over the next couple of weeks so I can pass on my thoughts afterwards if you like? There's some horrible roads around Bendigo so I'll definitely know if the rides that little bit nicer haha

That would be awesome Reginald. Let me know how u go with them cos this is definitely my next mod.

Cheers

[RoccoR]

Thanks to all for the feedback!! Much appreciated. This will definitely assist me in making a decision.
1 Question i do have is how are u guys coping with clearance. She_dub said that she doesn't have too Many issues and simply takes driveways more on an angle than before. Any thoughts from the rest of u with springs?

[Mac135]

I can't even get mine across some of the driveways I need to in standard form!

I will be be doing the springs though.