Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+

[greyhamism]

Reading through all this and I may get flamed but so much stuffing about with this unit e.g reverse camera, droid auto, volume control, software vcds coding etc

Is this all because it looks oem in a MKV platform? Extra 100 bux on average you get a android Chinese unit with all the functionality?

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They don't just look OEM, they are an OEM VW Unit, albiet from foreign markets.

These units run varients of either WinCE or Linix, which means although they have a more limited feature set, they can run on much lower end hardware and boot near instantaneously. Many units have seen software mods or updates that greatly expand upon their original feature set with minimal side effects.

Most Android units I've ever looked into or owned take comparitivley an ice age to boot, need far beefier hardware to run and you end up relying on the manafacturer of the head unit to get compatibility and integration happening reliably, both in terms of car features and Android OS updates.

If you're someone who wants that increased level of power and the features that gains you, then maybe an Android based unit it best for you.

If you just want a radio that tastes like real radio, and has the ability to display Map/Song/other info from your phone (be it built in via built in bluetooth or MirrorLink/CarPlay/AndroidAuto) then these units are (for the most part) plug and play.

They're also popular because the previous generation of OEM head units to update to (RCD510, RNS510) where/are much more limited in functionality/performance as well as being far more expensive and required separate modules/varients for BT/USB, all of which needs more extensive coding than these RCD330 units.

[PASHN8]

Hey Guys,

So I have got the RCD330+ from Aliexpress that is both android auto/apple car play compatible . I am having trouble installing a reverse camera and was wondering if there is any issues with using a PAL camera instead of NTSC?

Interestingly enough I have the same question. RCD330+ link below to exact unit:
6.5" MIB New Original CarPlay RCD330 Plus for VW w/Cable 6RD 035 187 B Version B 726679465451 | eBay

Then bought this AV camera:
Aycetry!Wholesale!S/ONNY CCD HD color for Volkswagen VW Badge Logo Smart Flip Car rear view backup parking camera cam waterproof-in Vehicle Camera from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

All connected and wired into a 2009 MK6 Golf GTI DSG.

I installed the Aycetry camera as per instructions, and via a separate AV monitor/screen, can confirm that when I put the DSG into reverse, the camera image appears on the AV screen, so I know I wired the camera correctly and it is working.

However, when I connect the yellow AV cable into the RCD330+ AV adapter that came with the RCD330+ (blue square plug with a white and black wire and yellow AV plug at the other end) and put the car into reverse, I get black screen and 'The "rear view" camera system is currently not available'. Blue AV adapter is plugged into the right place inside the quadlock on the lower left (when viewing the back of the unit, not under the fuse).

I have enabled bit 6 'back up camera installed' in VCDS, and I cannot for the life of me work out what I have done/not done to make this happen.

I don't believe I need the timer delay box as the the badge camera has the built in timer, and don't need an RGB converter, as both the camera and RCD accept a composite/AV video input.

ANY assistance or experience from anyone would be a godsend!

[kamold]

Try constantly powering the camera temporarily... (Contradiction ?)
It's possible the existing relay isn't switching fast enough for the head unit.
Might need to replace the current circuit with a digital delay relay if my hunch is correct.

[PASHN8]

Try constantly powering the camera temporarily... (Contradiction ?)
It's possible the existing relay isn't switching fast enough for the head unit.
Might need to replace the current circuit with a digital delay relay if my hunch is correct.

I have connected the cameras power source to a constant 12v, rather than ACC, would that not simulate the same thing? Haven't heard of a digital delay relay actually.

[kamold]

I have connected the cameras power source to a constant 12v, rather than ACC, would that not simulate the same thing? Haven't heard of a digital delay relay actually.

Yes but the power is being supplied to 5he camera via a relay only in reverse. Skip the relay and provide power to the camera directly.
Digital delay relay will provide 'debounce' to the camera by keeping power supplied for 20 or 30 seconds after you switch back to drive. Otherwise the camera will lose picture during a parking manouvre.
The factory relay will denounce but may not be switching power fast enough to turn the camera on initially

[greyhamism]

For any one installing one of these units in an OPS equipped car this might be useful.
According to here : RCD 330 g plus - ?????????? - 4PDA

OPS car images are controlled by the 6th byte (in long coding) :

05 - Passat
08 - Polo, Jetta and so on
0B -CC
00, 01 - Hatchbacks
0C - Tiguan (apparently suitable for station wagons)


Stumbled across this while looking into the 187E units i mentioned earlier in the thread

[johnsonsabroad]

Just received a Volkswagen RCD340 Android Auto Carplay model (6RD035187B-AA). Plan on installing tonight in a Dec 2011 Golf TDI Mk6 that currently has a RCD310. I have no reverse camera. I have read through all the info on this thread so hopefully it will be just a straight swap witout issues. I will come back with details of my experience!! It's my wife's car and I convinced her to buy this so hopefully there are no major compromises here....

Any pre-install advise for those having done this change with the same model Golf would be great !!

[johnsonsabroad]

So the install went well in my December 2011 Golf Mk6 TDI 103Kw.

First started with no ignition key in. I disconnected and removed the Bluetooth module from under the driver’s seat. The Velcro they use to hold that module to the carpet is the best I've ever come across! took some effort to prior it away.
Remove the bezel around the existing radio - didn't break it, so good so far so good
Removed the existing RCD310. Bit of jiggling and it was out. Disconnected the cables, done.
Next I connected double to single antenna adapter - The RCD340 has a single antenna input and then connected the can-bus connector - all good, slotted the RCD340 into place - all good.

Now the test - Ignition on - the RCD340 presents with a clock. Powered up and it immediately went to radio. Tuned in some stations all good. Went to settings and adjusted a few things including Bluetooth - all went perfectly well.
Tested steering wheel controls. Controls things as expected, phone, mute, back/next etc. Great
Plugged in apple cable - initiated Car Play and asked to accept a few things, then it was alive. All apps working as expected. Steering wheel controls however do not initiate the Apple Car Play Phone. Volume, mute, back/next all work though

You need to fiddle with the sound settings a little to get the right balance between normal volume and the volume of applications like Maps. All good in the end. The sound quality is roughly the same as the RCD310. Probably a little less mids and lot less highs. Once adjusted it is fine. I did not expect an improvement in sound and I was right - It is good enough. You get what you pay for...
All tested well enough - I screwed the unit in and replaced the bezel. Looks like factory


Couple of things I noticed.
When you mute then unmute the volume goes back to the start-up volume not where you had the volume before muting? Minor issue
The USB power stays on all the time even when the ignition is off, keys removed and the car locked?? When the phone is plugged in it constantly charges and still remains in Car Play mode, meaning the radio itself is still running even though it seems to be off. Someone else mentioned this in this thread so I will go back to see if this was resolved. It didn't drain the battery overnight though (without the phone connected) so no big deal really as the phone is never left in the car.

Bluetooth works perfectly, calls are clear and the in-built mic works well and is also clear. It’s great you can have one device connected as the phone and another device connected for music. Bluetooth and Apple Car Play cannot operate together, it's either one or the other (as expected). The Apple Car play buttons are also on the right side of the screen. This is good for right side drive vehicles.
No phone, music, radio on the MFD (as expected), and no climate info of the unit itself (also as expected).

Otherwise a simple DIY upgrade to Android Auto or Apple Car Play with all their benefits. It really doesn't give you anything else really, but Car Play is what I wanted, so I got that for a relatively cheap price. I recently upgraded our other car with a Sony XAV-AX100 Car Play unit for about the same price and as a bottom of the range unit it is about the same (sound of the Sony is better by a margin) but the RCD340 is a very good upgrade without busting the Bank on a 2011 car.

I did notice the firmware is not quite up-to-date so I will update it. I will post anything new otherwise, I seem to be happy with this.

[greyhamism]

So the install went well in my December 2011 Golf Mk6 TDI 103Kw.

First started with no ignition key in. I disconnected and removed the Bluetooth module from under the driver’s seat. The Velcro they use to hold that module to the carpet is the best I've ever come across! took some effort to prior it away.
Remove the bezel around the existing radio - didn't break it, so good so far so good
Removed the existing RCD310. Bit of jiggling and it was out. Disconnected the cables, done.
Next I connected double to single antenna adapter - The RCD340 has a single antenna input and then connected the can-bus connector - all good, slotted the RCD340 into place - all good.

Now the test - Ignition on - the RCD340 presents with a clock. Powered up and it immediately went to radio. Tuned in some stations all good. Went to settings and adjusted a few things including Bluetooth - all went perfectly well.
Tested steering wheel controls. Controls things as expected, phone, mute, back/next etc. Great
Plugged in apple cable - initiated Car Play and asked to accept a few things, then it was alive. All apps working as expected. Steering wheel controls however do not initiate the Apple Car Play Phone. Volume, mute, back/next all work though

You need to fiddle with the sound settings a little to get the right balance between normal volume and the volume of applications like Maps. All good in the end. The sound quality is roughly the same as the RCD310. Probably a little less mids and lot less highs. Once adjusted it is fine. I did not expect an improvement in sound and I was right - It is good enough. You get what you pay for...
All tested well enough - I screwed the unit in and replaced the bezel. Looks like factory


Couple of things I noticed.
When you mute then unmute the volume goes back to the start-up volume not where you had the volume before muting? Minor issue
The USB power stays on all the time even when the ignition is off, keys removed and the car locked?? When the phone is plugged in it constantly charges and still remains in Car Play mode, meaning the radio itself is still running even though it seems to be off. Someone else mentioned this in this thread so I will go back to see if this was resolved. It didn't drain the battery overnight though (without the phone connected) so no big deal really as the phone is never left in the car.

Bluetooth works perfectly, calls are clear and the in-built mic works well and is also clear. It’s great you can have one device connected as the phone and another device connected for music. Bluetooth and Apple Car Play cannot operate together, it's either one or the other (as expected). The Apple Car play buttons are also on the right side of the screen. This is good for right side drive vehicles.
No phone, music, radio on the MFD (as expected), and no climate info of the unit itself (also as expected).

Otherwise a simple DIY upgrade to Android Auto or Apple Car Play with all their benefits. It really doesn't give you anything else really, but Car Play is what I wanted, so I got that for a relatively cheap price. I recently upgraded our other car with a Sony XAV-AX100 Car Play unit for about the same price and as a bottom of the range unit it is about the same (sound of the Sony is better by a margin) but the RCD340 is a very good upgrade without busting the Bank on a 2011 car.

I did notice the firmware is not quite up-to-date so I will update it. I will post anything new otherwise, I seem to be happy with this.

Nice work man!

As far as resume volume going, i think you can change the default resume volume in the sound setting menu.

What software version are you using? Only that i think one of the updates with BT Ver. C210 allows for 4 separate volume levels for Music, Phone, Maps & Siri which might help.

Note that some firmware revisions appear to be higher but aren't as stable/have some bugs depending on what hardware revision your head-unit is

[johnsonsabroad]

My unit is:
6RD035187B
H/W: 534
S/W: 5314
B/T: C180
CarPlay:210.81
AndroidAuto: 1.3.0

There are some units that have S/W: 5515 and B/T: C210
I don't know if these firmware updates are even applicable to my unit or what of the fetaures/bug fixes it has. My current unit appears to be working fine ?

[spec32]

Been wanting to upgrade to shark fin antenna noticed that second hand ones don't have the any circuitry in the fin?? Is there an antenna I can hook up to my RCD 330 and run it under the frot vent like I did in my old droid unit

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[alyuann8]

Going onto the RCD330 bandwagon. Not technical inclined, anyone in Melbourne to lend a hand in installing my new unit? Thanks folks.

[Jakeys]

Looking to pull the trigger on this but don't really want to sacrifice my steering controls. I've got an MY10.5 R36 so 8 button wheel, sounds like I'll lose them.

One poster about 20 pages back linked this: ExtraVAG - дополнительное оборудование VAG. - ИНТЕРФЕЙС ПОДДЕРЖКИ МУЛЬТИРУЛЯ И КАМЕРЫ ДЛЯ RCD 330 PLUS ВЕРСИИ 1.4-2.0 Mirrorlink FREE

Has anyone had any experience with this? Looks like you can pick if you have a Desay or a Universal, assuming Universal is probably Noname? I think I'd be shooting for a Noname because I want Android Auto. It's just a bit pricey to be the guinea pig.

[benough]

Just buy the same thing from aliexpress. I have had one for a while now and it's great. I have never bought Desay as, if you scroll through most forums on them, people grumble about them while the NoName ones seem to perform better.

[Jakeys]

Just buy the same thing from aliexpress. I have had one for a while now and it's great. I have never bought Desay as, if you scroll through most forums on them, people grumble about them while the NoName ones seem to perform better.

Awesome, so your 8 button wheel works fine? Any weird issues or anything? I wasn't planning on Desay, definitely Noname. I'll look for it on Ali.

EDIT: This looks promising: BODENLA RCD330 MIB RCD510 Multifunction Steering Wheel Button Control Simulator Adapter For VW Golf 5 6 Jetta MK5 Touran Caddy-in Cables, Adapters & Sockets from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

It mentions fixing the battery drain issue, which my car wouldn't have I'm pretty sure, but hopefully this isn't a drama. Is this along the lines of what you grabbed benough? Or anyone else picked it up? I'll guinea pig it if not.