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  • #46
    Originally posted by DkN View Post
    Yeah the quality is definitely not normal.

    Which issues are you referring to? Just did a quick scan of your issues in the spreadsheet, the radio muting when turning on the engine should be fixed (it is on mine) and FLAC should now display meta info.
    Okey dokey, will give you a bell when I get back to Brisbane in late Feb/early March, RE swapping it for a production unit.

    Only other issues I have are fairly minor ones, FLAC loading times (being worked on, as you mentioned), SD muting on reverse camera/ipod playback and metadata issues etc (and all the promised features, 3 line MFD etc). Otherwise it's being fairly rock solid stable for me (though I haven't used it for 3 weeks haha).
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    • #47
      Originally posted by DkN View Post

      I'm not quite sure what you are saying there, if you pulled the key the unit should have shutdown, are you saying radio was muted when it started? The radio muting issue was that if the ignition was on, the unit was on but the engine is not, and you then go to turn on the car, the radio will lose sound. This is the issue that was fixed in the last firmware update. Are you experiencing a different issue?

      After I loaded the new firmware both times for the first couple of times when start the car there was no sound out of the radio

      Regarding the SD slot cover, as I said once you pull it out / twist it sometimes it's difficult to get it back in but just give it a few rubs near the bottom of the slot cover, it does go back in.

      I will give it ago.



      The satnav and SD conflict is known and being worked on. As for the volume, it's because AS is using system volume for the satnav so some weird things are happening - I've reported this and the technician said they will go back to using a separate volume for satnav.

      The auto shutdown on destination is really designed for portable GPS units, it's neither AS or iGo's fault because this feature was designed by iGo to attempt to shutdown the entire unit rather than just exit navigation, that's why on a head unit it would just make things freeze. It's best to disable this option in settings -> extra settings -> destination message (or similar wording).

      Have you changed any settings or has anyone else come across this issue? AFAIK the shipped version of the navigation software should have had this option disabled by default.

      I haven't changed any settings.

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      Last edited by asa572; 06-01-2014, 07:59 PM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by DkN View Post

        The auto shutdown on destination is really designed for portable GPS units, it's neither AS or iGo's fault because this feature was designed by iGo to attempt to shutdown the entire unit rather than just exit navigation, that's why on a head unit it would just make things freeze. It's best to disable this option in settings -> extra settings -> destination message (or similar wording).

        Have you changed any settings or has anyone else come across this issue? AFAIK the shipped version of the navigation software should have had this option disabled by default.
        Just fixed it Sandy.
        destination reached setting was selected.
        I have never seen that menu before so it must have been selected from factory.
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        • #49
          New problem found.
          driving with Sat Nav on, pressed the FM button to turn the volume up on the radio,
          turned volume up and then I changed station to check the RDS was working.
          After changing stations it locked up and was stuck on that station and was unable
          to do anything.
          Had to pull the fuse to turn it off.
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          • #50
            Anyone else notice that the radio will mute itself when you sound the horn. Got cut off yesterday and gave a quick honk of the horn, and the radio muted. Interesting! I drive a MK6 with Kessy, if it matters.
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            • #51
              Sandy, have you been able to test the HD Link unit with an Android phone? I haven't had time to take a screen shot for you but wondering if you (or anyone else) has used this yet. My first impressions are that the interface is NOT 480p which is what the DNS screen resolution should accept. The whites are more of a gray color and the colors are washed out. So far this "mirroring" unit is not impressive but would like to see if anyone else has had a chance to use it.

              Also, have you inquired about the timeline for the OBDII unit? 3G modem?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by asa572 View Post
                New problem found.
                driving with Sat Nav on, pressed the FM button to turn the volume up on the radio,
                turned volume up and then I changed station to check the RDS was working.
                After changing stations it locked up and was stuck on that station and was unable
                to do anything.
                Had to pull the fuse to turn it off.
                This is an isolated incident, correct? This kind of lock-up really shouldn't be happening anymore without a hardware issue, but I will confirm.

                On another note if you change the GPS volume setting in menu -> system so that it is set on 30 or something instead of "manual", you don't need to exit GPS in order to change the volume of the background application whether it is radio or SD or something else.

                Originally posted by robk5787 View Post
                Anyone else notice that the radio will mute itself when you sound the horn. Got cut off yesterday and gave a quick honk of the horn, and the radio muted. Interesting! I drive a MK6 with Kessy, if it matters.
                Speaking of that, I have a new test MCU that is supposed to fix all radio muting issues. Apparently some people still experience radio muting when starting the car though this no longer happens in my car - that is what this MCU is meant to fix. Would anyone with radio muting issues please test and report back (since mine is already fixed before this MCU for some reason). Link is in first post, under firmware section.

                Originally posted by swyner View Post
                Sandy, have you been able to test the HD Link unit with an Android phone? I haven't had time to take a screen shot for you but wondering if you (or anyone else) has used this yet. My first impressions are that the interface is NOT 480p which is what the DNS screen resolution should accept. The whites are more of a gray color and the colors are washed out. So far this "mirroring" unit is not impressive but would like to see if anyone else has had a chance to use it.

                Also, have you inquired about the timeline for the OBDII unit? 3G modem?
                I received an response saying that the low quality you are experiencing is not normal, but I don't have the module with me to test for myself. I'm waiting for confirmation from a US customer who may be receiving a replacement unit with an added mirroring module much like yourself very soon, so we can get a comparison.

                I still need to follow up on OBD2 and the 3G availability though software-wise 3G has already been enabled.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DkN View Post
                  This is an isolated incident, correct? This kind of lock-up really shouldn't be happening anymore without a hardware issue, but I will confirm.

                  On another note if you change the GPS volume setting in menu -> system so that it is set on 30 or something instead of "manual", you don't need to exit GPS in order to change the volume of the background application whether it is radio or SD or something else.

                  Maybe an isolated incident as I tried to replicate tonight and it didn't happen.
                  The muted radio on start up is still happening though.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by asa572 View Post
                    Maybe an isolated incident as I tried to replicate tonight and it didn't happen.
                    The muted radio on start up is still happening though.
                    Just to confirm, are you starting the car before or after the unit is booted into radio? If you are starting the car before the VW logo shows up, radio should not be muted. If you start after the VW logo disappears (or just before the VW logo is about to disappear) and the radio interface is displayed, you might mute the radio in the old firmware. This is what the new test MCU should fix. Your issue could be a different one altogether if you are saying your radio starts up muted regardless of whether you are starting the car straight away before the unit boots.
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                    • #55
                      For the people who had iGO preloaded on their unit form the factory, what are you sys.txt settings? Has anyone figured out what the optimal variables would be to use for this unit (ie memory, cache, driver, etc.)?

                      Also, a way to replicate the monsun.exe error (with the latest firmware):
                      1. start listening to music from the SD card
                      2. turn on navigation, set a destination and then go
                      3. once on your way, switch back to the SD card while the navigation is going on in the background
                      4. the memory error will come up after a couple songs or if your press next song a few times. Having SD on shuffle and switching from Nav to SD a few times helps to have the error occur quicker.

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                      • #56
                        We any closer to a date for the rest of us getting our unit Sandy?

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                        • #57
                          My unit did a funny thing yesterday( after being in the sun on a 30+ degree day). It randomly rebooted. And was missing all the info in the FM screen. Came back a few mins later.

                          I also still have the no radio after startup issue. Hasn't been helped by the most recent update.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by DkN View Post
                            Just to confirm, are you starting the car before or after the unit is booted into radio? If you are starting the car before the VW logo shows up, radio should not be muted. If you start after the VW logo disappears (or just before the VW logo is about to disappear) and the radio interface is displayed, you might mute the radio in the old firmware. This is what the new test MCU should fix. Your issue could be a different one altogether if you are saying your radio starts up muted regardless of whether you are starting the car straight away before the unit boots.
                            I start it before the logo shows up.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by woweriux View Post
                              For the people who had iGO preloaded on their unit form the factory, what are you sys.txt settings? Has anyone figured out what the optimal variables would be to use for this unit (ie memory, cache, driver, etc.)?

                              Also, a way to replicate the monsun.exe error (with the latest firmware):
                              1. start listening to music from the SD card
                              2. turn on navigation, set a destination and then go
                              3. once on your way, switch back to the SD card while the navigation is going on in the background
                              4. the memory error will come up after a couple songs or if your press next song a few times. Having SD on shuffle and switching from Nav to SD a few times helps to have the error occur quicker.
                              That would be the SD / satnav system resource conflict issue that AS is working to fix. I should have an estimate on how long this will take soon.

                              Originally posted by LD_mart View Post
                              We any closer to a date for the rest of us getting our unit Sandy?
                              I'm waiting on these issues before ordering the unit:

                              1. SD / navigation running at the same time causes a conflict where SD music playback may stutter / song switching may take excessive time. Some optimisation of the SD decoding will be required to fix this issue.

                              2. current method of SD music loading will always start from the beginning and take 15-20 seconds to load a ~4 minute song, though playback starts once ~30 seconds have been loaded. The issue here is if the song memory is at something like 3 minutes on startup, or you just started a song and want to skip to 3 minutes. The issue is more pronounced if you have a larger file / longer song. A different method of loading the song will be required to fix this issue (e.g. one that is able to load the song from whichever point rather than from the beginning every time).

                              3. navigation volume and SD volume have a conflict sometimes reducing the SD volume - this is due to navigation using the system volume same as SD, and should be an easy fix just by switching navigation onto a separate volume on its own.

                              and now some people are saying the radio muting thing on startup is not fixed, though the latest firmware worked for my unit



                              Originally posted by polski_ogurek View Post
                              My unit did a funny thing yesterday( after being in the sun on a 30+ degree day). It randomly rebooted. And was missing all the info in the FM screen. Came back a few mins later.

                              I also still have the no radio after startup issue. Hasn't been helped by the most recent update.

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                              Can I just confirm that by most recent update you mean the 140104 test MCU? If so I'll have to tell the tech that it didn't seem to work.

                              Originally posted by asa572 View Post
                              I start it before the logo shows up.
                              So your radio just randomly has no sound on startup, or always has no sound on startup, or is there a pattern?
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                              • #60
                                Any news from AS regarding updated firmware?

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