Toyota 86

[DoggieHowser]

Balance is something the FWD Golf doesn't have.

Like I mentioned before, when I had my R35, I had more fun going slow in a friend's Boxster S. But not all cars are like that. I didn't have as much fun with the S2000. I am reserving judgement till I get to drive one, but a couple of friends have test driven it and they are full of glowing reviews as well.

[GoLfMan]

I watched the video you posted on page 1, seems to be full of excuses. Sort of saying "its ok thats its slow because it handles well and its fun blah blah pay me toyota" and I get that being a VW driver but 197hp is way to underpowered and the ONLY reason it is that slow is to keep it cheap.
They can mask it with all the reviews and pretending like its all about the fun of driving it but if i can only enjoy a car on a race track then its a bit ****.
I don't think that this is one of the cases where a car makers wants to make tribute to a classic as much as it lets make a lot of money by putting together a cheap car and masking the ****ness with "sportiness"

Oh Dado.... sometimes you are the most outspoken bastard I know

[DoggieHowser]

I had the ZZT231 Celica. Now that was just a silly car with a heritage badge on it. It was all looks and not that much go

I had a go with the original Celica a friend of mine had. Now that was another slow but fun car. I just didn't connect as well because I thought the gearbox was a bit clunky.

[thestu]

the whole AE86 theme thing.....
Looks like a Hyundai? Instant classic.

lol.

This is pretty low power for $30k!

I'll stick with wanting an original!

[Ben J]

If it does handle as well as people say it does, im sure full bolt on turbo kits will be available soon if not already, building a quick car for 35k. Sure if you spent that modifying something else you could build something quicker, and I personally would ever own one, but I can see the appeal for someone who wants a new car which can be a bit of fun in that price range. What else (new) is there in that price range which is quicker and rwd?

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[thestu]

If it does handle as well as people say it does, im sure full bolt on turbo kits will be available soon if not already, building a quick car for 35k. Sure if you spent that modifying something else you could build something quicker, and I personally would ever own one, but I can see the appeal for someone who wants a new car which can be a bit of fun in that price range. What else (new) is there in that price range which is quicker and rwd?

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XR6 turbo?

[Ben J]

Brand new they're another 15k more (from my car sales search which took literally 20 seconds, so could be wrong, I really dont follow new car prices as I'm not in the market for one )...

Not sure why I'm defending this car to be honest though, it is an underpowered ugly thing haha. Just saying I can see why people would want one

[DoggieHowser]

I thought the BRZ in silver looked like crap. I could see the Hyundai references. But I thought the Toyota's subtle honeycomb ish motif looked quite nice with a red paint job.

Granted I don't find my Golf or Tiguan or my last few rides to be particularly pretty either in my book, pretty is a Ferrari 430 Scuderia or a Maserati GranTurismo

[Ryan_R]

So what's jaw-droppingly gorgeous in your book then?

[HaydEn]

E-type

[DoggieHowser]

356A Roadster.

[Sharkie]

In hindsight thinking about it (unless a 200kw/400NM 86 arrives) the performance for a $35K 86 is rubbish.

Team_v's $35K Tiguan (which incidentally has 200kw/400NM) will run rings around it ..... even on the track. Anybody going to regular QLD track events will have seen this particular Tiguan in action so no BS .... !

[VWindahouse]

In hindsight thinking about it (unless a 200kw/400NM 86 arrives) the performance for a $35K 86 is rubbish.

Team_v's $35K Tiguan (which incidentally has 200kw/400NM) will run rings around it ..... even on the track. Anybody going to regular QLD track events will have seen this particular Tiguan in action so no BS .... !

Amen to that!

[team_v]

Amen to that!

Having said that, the 9n3 GTI's hammer around quite well too.

My main concern over the 86 is that they are calling it a sports car but it doesn't handle as well (tail happy) or go as quick (NA engine) than most of the other cars it is compared to.

[Ideo]

I watched the video you posted on page 1, seems to be full of excuses. Sort of saying "its ok thats its slow because it handles well and its fun blah blah pay me toyota" and I get that being a VW driver but 197hp is way to underpowered and the ONLY reason it is that slow is to keep it cheap.
They can mask it with all the reviews and pretending like its all about the fun of driving it but if i can only enjoy a car on a race track then its a bit ****.
I don't think that this is one of the cases where a car makers wants to make tribute to a classic as much as it lets make a lot of money by putting together a cheap car and masking the ****ness with "sportiness"

To be fair, someone with stretched tyres isn't the target market. They want people who actually care how a car drives. Not just how it looks.