Do anyone still change the oil after the first 1000km on a new diesel?

[Bryn23]

Just thinking out loud,

Does anyone still change the oil out in after the first 1000km on a new engine anymore?

From what i gather, VW doesn't run mineral break-in oil, just 507.00 oil. (i may be wrong on this)

Wouldn't it make sense to drop the oil at 1000km, throw in a new filter and new 507 oil?

Waiting until the fixed service, on original oil, whether 7500km to 15000km doesn't seem like a good practice.

I noticed Craig's heads up about the Castrol Edge 507.00 oil on sale at Supercheap Auto on his thread and at $56 for 5 litres, it seems like a no brainer.

[Guest001]

No we follow VW's recommendation and use APPROVED full synthetic oil only

The $56 one in the unusual shaped bottle is the correct one

[Bryn23]

No we follow VW's recommendation and use APPROVED full synthetic oil only

This oil is VW Approved 507.00 Oil Hillbilly, i did look at the rear of it to see the oil codes.

The question is if anyone still does the 1000km oil change anymore?

[Bryn23]

This is the oil i was talking about....

Castrol Edge Diesel DPF Engine Oil - 5W-30, 5 Litre - Supercheap Auto

[Umai Naa!!]

Yeah that one's fine.

Honestly, I don't think there's anything to gain from dropping the oil so soon, otherwise it'd be part of the service schedule to protect the warranty, etc. As it stands with VW, they don't recommend a premature oil change anyway, especially if there's an oil consumption issue.

15,000kms or 12 months, is what they say.

Off the record, the 504/507-approved oils are supposedly good for 30,000km intervals, but I wouldn't take that chance under warranty.

[Guest001]

This is the oil i was talking about....

Castrol Edge Diesel DPF Engine Oil - 5W-30, 5 Litre - Supercheap Auto

Thats the one i was talking about Its the only one for $56

[Bryn23]

I've changed oil my Honda outboards,, tractors, Can am Commander and Subaru's, its really not that hard to work out what grade, regardless if it engine oil, trans oil, diff oil. the oil code requirement is all there in the owner manual.

Same goes for using the correct grade grease, but that normally in the service manual.

15000km is a long time to drop oils, a premature oil change shouldn't be an issue if it not using a break in oil?

As for Oil Consumption issue, id like to think that that is a rare occurrence on a new engine...

I've always found, dropping the oils, diff oil makes a huge difference, well the diff normally sounds smoother with a better oil.

I've normally dropped the engine oil at 1000km, as there is normally crap still left in the engine (but this is in Gas engines), i'd rather that stuck in the filter and changed out than spending another 14000km of forcing oil through a filter with small metal shavings.

But if it isn't worth it in these new Diesel engines, then i might not do it...

Have you cut open a filter and looked at the oil in a new VW diesel after the 15km service???

[Guest001]

Its your vehicle you can do whatever you feel you should. Most of us follow what VW recommend.

I have owned 42 cars in my life and always followed the makers instructions. Only one fried a motor and that was not the oils fault.
Have serviced cars, light trucks, chainsaws, several petrol and diesel tractors, 4 different outboards, Lister diesel generators and a Hamilton V8 jetboat that had a habit of dropping valve seats and tappet tensioning nuts regularly.

[Bryn23]

I should also point out, the plan is to run it in 1000km in the first week with a leisurely drive though the mountains, well the little back hills of Brisbane, Scenic Rim, Buyna Mountains then through Mount Mee avoiding highways to keep the speed and load on the engine variable and below 3000 rpm

I don't believe sitting at 100km on a highway the best way to run in an engine but people do it.

Then in to the shed for a hopefully three month Campervan build and then a 8000-10000km trip out to Ayes Rock (Uluru) via South Australia and back via The East Coast starting in June.

[Bryn23]

Its your vehicle you can do whatever you feel you should. Most of us follow what VW recommend.

I have owned 42 cars in my life and always followed the makers instructions. Only one fried a motor and that was not the oils fault.
Have serviced cars, light trucks, chainsaws, several petrol and diesel tractors, 4 different outboards, Lister diesel generators and a Hamilton V8 jetboat that had a habit of dropping valve seats and tappet tensioning nuts regularly.

Chainsaw's, i had this Stihl, its was like an old car, had a certain start up, worked every time, but if you followed the manual, it would flood it self. best chainsaw i ever owned.

I'm wondering if VW have a run in oil additive in the oil, that might explain why VW don't drop the oil... ill have to check on this, as this may be why VW don't recommend as Umai pointed out..

I normally buy the service manuals when i buy a car, bike, as has all the info needed to re-torque bits and pieces... i do what they recommend...just as using the oils spec'd for the engine.

Its just hard getting around in my head, having oil with potential swarf in there until the first service.

properly overthinking it, it's just a habit to change over at 1000km.

[Markee]

Bryn you're not over thinking it as it does make sense. The choice is yours really and how much is it gonna hurt? It's not like VW are going to analyse the oil at the first service, it's just gonna go in the bin! Do it if it makes you feel more confident.
I'm going to be doing mine between factory recommended services due to the issue with my model and the EGR breaking down internally and allowing aluminium particles to score the bores causing excessive oil usage. I'll be getting the oil tested and monitoring the usage if any, hopefully not.

[Bryn23]

Cheers, Markee

I does make sense from my prospective, I do plan on keeping this van for a while.

The key is finding out if the initial oil has a run in additive. i'll hit the service department up in the new year as this could be the defining answer.

I don't really believe VW, has the customers best interest art heart, they make a heap of coin from parts, and once the warranty is over they are looking at making more money.

Some of the prices and discussions on this forum point to VW making a lot of money from charging replacement parts for parts that have known issues.

[Markee]

Yes mate I'm just going thru the process of buying parts from OS to update what is a known problem, VW AUS want $400+ for some vacuum hoses that I can get for half the price elsewhere. It's ridiculous but it's the price you have to pay with out of warranty vehicles like these unfortunately.

Keep us posted re the type of oil.

[Guest001]

As far as I could find out it doesnt. Its just plain 504/507 Castrol Professional III or maybe in a petrol it will be 502.505..

I run both of mine on the 504/507.

No one on here has ever mentioned run in oil in a VW that I can remember

All car dealers are similar I can remember when an EH Holden was less than $2500 and if bought in individual parts was something like

$14,000.

If you want to do it, do it you seem to be hell bent on doing so.

I asked when I bought mine about a 1500k change and they said No VW say first change at 12 months or 15,000k so thats what i did and have had no problems

[Sunny43.5]

[QUOTE=Bryn23;1211590]I should also point out, the plan is to run it in 1000km in the first week with a leisurely drive though the mountains, well the little back hills of Brisbane, Scenic Rim, Buyna Mountains then through Mount Mee avoiding highways to keep the speed and load on the engine variable and below 3000 rpm

I don't believe sitting at 100km on a highway the best way to run in an engine but people do it.

Not sure which way you traversed the road up to Mt Mee and beyond but it does note quite qualify as "little " that's quite a good climb from Dayboro with lots of twisty uphill climbs . As for the highway speeds this time of year around Brissy you would be hard pressed to sit on any fixed speed for too long traffic / speed cameras etc will guarantee the traffic will be up and down all over the shop .