Do anyone still change the oil after the first 1000km on a new diesel?

[Robjohns2424]

Hi All, Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
Just a quick question re: the Supercheap Castrol 504/507 oil on special.
Is there a "shelf life" regarding un-opened oils?
Considering purchasing a few 5lt containers.
Thanks

[Bryn23]

Hi All, Hope you had a Merry Christmas.
Just a quick question re: the Supercheap Castrol 504/507 oil on special.
Is there a "shelf life" regarding un-opened oils?
Considering purchasing a few 5lt containers.
Thanks

As far as i know, oil doesn't go off if unopened. if you had it lying around for 5 years, then maybe it could turn, but it is oil and it shouldn't.

[Guest001]

Someone said 2 years a while ago Will be on special again well before then

[Bryn23]

[QUOTE=Sunny43.5;1211723]

I should also point out, the plan is to run it in 1000km in the first week with a leisurely drive though the mountains, well the little back hills of Brisbane, Scenic Rim, Buyna Mountains then through Mount Mee avoiding highways to keep the speed and load on the engine variable and below 3000 rpm

I don't believe sitting at 100km on a highway the best way to run in an engine but people do it.

Not sure which way you traversed the road up to Mt Mee and beyond but it does note quite qualify as "little " that's quite a good climb from Dayboro with lots of twisty uphill climbs . As for the highway speeds this time of year around Brissy you would be hard pressed to sit on any fixed speed for too long traffic / speed cameras etc will guarantee the traffic will be up and down all over the shop .

The hills we have here are nothing compared to ones i have driven in NZ and Europe...Mt Mee is a little bump compared to what i class as a mountain i lived up that way when i was young, know the road pretty well. The Hills around here will give the engine a good workout, plus they are more enjoyable than on the highway.

The road to Mt Glorious from Samford is a nice little climb, i'm surprise how little use Mt Glorious get, but QLD seems to be a beach first culture first before forest.

You right about the traffic at the moment, took over 3 hrs from the CBD to Coolum on Xmas day....stop start the most of the way

[HPRS230]

Re 1000km oil drop.
I've got a petrol RS.

I requested this in the contract when I bought our RS.

The reply was "can do that, never done before."

Also requested a cylinder compression test and a full wheel alignment.
Same reply as as above. ie never done before.

Car goes for its oil drop tomorrow in fact. I will try to get them to kept the oil/filter to have a look.

My background tells me this is the right action and I am happy to have it done.

Re run in:
I bought Skoda 100km from home, so I was 2nd and 3rd gear runs down the motorway (80% throttle) and taking every off ramp. That was the first 100, then flogged it till 1000km. And I'm just back from a mountain run. Now at 1300 ish and service tomorrow.

My 2 cents anyhow.

Skoda RS 230

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f149/sg-tp-ab-rs230-timeline-116202.html

[Bryn23]

Hey HPRS230.

Never heard of getting a compression test that early, but at least you will have a baseline for your engine and it could be handy if you have an issue.

If you can see the oil, it'll be interesting what comes up with a magnet.

[HPRS230]

Yea compression test is to track the engine. 208/209 psi with 0km so interested to know what it will be tomorrow.

Yea I have a motorsport background, so compression tests are a good way to track a motor.

Skoda RS 230

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f149/sg-tp-ab-rs230-timeline-116202.html

[HPRS230]

They said they will keep the filter, so will hack that open later.

Also said engines are run in from factory, the service guy looked at the paperwork funny when he seen 1000km oil & filter...

Will report back once I get the car. Currently enjoying a beer on the beach

Skoda RS 230

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f149/sg-tp-ab-rs230-timeline-116202.html

[HPRS230]

Hey Guys
Check out the the photos on my Timeline of the oil filter at 1500km.
Post #30.

[Umai Naa!!]

Filter looks like it's doing its job.

I'd be surprised to see that amount of contaminant at the next filter change.

[Bryn23]

Good to see the filter picking up the loose swarf,

Shame you didn't get to see the oil, would have loved to see what sticks to a magnet.

In theory, there should be no crap in the next oil change.

Enjoy your new ride.

[Monty1951]

Most things that used to be required for the initial 1500 k service are no longer necessary. Engines are much better built these days. For the MY17 Tiguan it was just an inspection. It was worthwhile as they washed it and vacuumed the interior!

[Sunny43.5]

Engines are much better built these days.

Hmm not too sure about that one , when we picked up our new van they gave us some song and dance routine about how efficient their "Pitstop " service was , we were told to watch the oil level and if it required topping up between service intervals just pop in for a top up . Now if engines are built better these days why do they set up a service to fill oil between service schedules . Back in the old days some consumption was the norm during the run in period , but after the first few thou it was supposed to be all good from then ..

[Transporter]

I does make sense from my prospective, I do plan on keeping this van for a while.

The key is finding out if the initial oil has a run in additive. i'll hit the service department up in the new year as this could be the defining answer.

I don't really believe VW, has the customers best interest art heart,

Agree, I change the first oil at around 1,500km and then before Summer and before wintertime. Those all smart people on the internet just don't have enough evidence to support that abolishing the first oil change is ideal for everyone driving conditions.

If, the manufacturer was always right then, there would be no recalls and no goodwill repairs on engines or anything.

Just remember the lifetime oil fills in the transmissions and how many car owners had to spend $10,000 + long after the warranty had expired.

[Bryn23]

Well i got around to getting the first oil change today at 1900km, was suppose to do it between 1000-1500km but couldn't find the time.

Dropped it off at the VW dealer, as i had to be in that area anyway and i don't have the time at the moment to do it myself.

It was surprising cheap for oil and a new filter, $170.. (well when they whack you for $500 for a service, it is) the service guy couldn't get his head around changing the oil as he said they get 400,000km on these engines.....id like to see the failure rate

I then said, ok whats thew price of a new engine, he replied about $13k, so i said, removing the initial swarf and other crap will only cost $170.

is it really worth not doing it?

He told me, that VW run in the engines at the factory, I find it hard to believe, imagine the cost of setting up each engine with new oil, run in for certain amount of time and then inspect and drain, then new oil upon installation.

Anyhow, I sent off a sample of the original oil to be analysed, so i'll have a base line for the next sample before the next change.