09 Auto 128kw T5 transmisson isn't as smooth :(

[Silver Caravelle]

The service intervals mentioned in the service booklet are not specific to Australia, and never will be. As always, you'll need to check with a dealership for the current service intervals.

A service interval (at 60,000klms) was introduced a few years ago, when Australia was finally recognised by Volkswagen as a 'hot climate region'.

Not according to Burwin VW whom service my 2008 Multivan. All servicing has been recorded exactly per the service booklet to date. With the next service due at 60K, they have not advised of an auto service. Your are a dealer right? If so, care to provide the official confirmation from VW of 60K auto service? Surely the non specific service booklet would mention the auto service for 'warm climate countries' by exception; which it doesn't. Eitherway mine will get done no later 80,000Ks

Regards,

Scott

[lemmiwinks]

My late 2009 T5 service manual does not state that the ATF needs servicing either, only says "Filled for life".

[Tornado T5]

I'm booked at Burwins on the 27th for a 135K service and will raise this specifically again as even if I order a new van I'm looking at a very long wait for anything DSG fitted and would fall easily into this "ammended" service schedule for auto's. Get an Amarok loaner so that will be fun.

[Umai Naa!!]

Not according to Burwin VW whom service my 2008 Multivan. All servicing has been recorded exactly per the service booklet to date. With the next service due at 60K, they have not advised of an auto service. Your are a dealer right? If so, care to provide the official confirmation from VW of 60K auto service? Surely the non specific service booklet would mention the auto service for 'warm climate countries' by exception; which it doesn't. Eitherway mine will get done no later 80,000Ks

Regards,

Scott

I was with a dealership until the end of last year.

The dealerships have Passenger, Commercial, and Crafter service schedules that are attached to the job card, that the technician follows. The schedule for commercial vehicles, which the Multivan and Transporter come under, states that the transmission is serviced every 60,000klms. This schedule is updated regularly as new models come out, and overrides everything in the service book.

Your dealership will provide a carbon copy, which is attached to your invoice. If they are not utilising, or adhering to the schedule, their scores in the annual ISO audit can't be too flash.

[Silver Caravelle]

I was with a dealership until the end of last year.

The dealerships have Passenger, Commercial, and Crafter service schedules that are attached to the job card, that the technician follows. The schedule for commercial vehicles, which the Multivan and Transporter come under, states that the transmission is serviced every 60,000klms. This schedule is updated regularly as new models come out, and overrides everything in the service book.

Your dealership will provide a carbon copy, which is attached to your invoice. If they are not utilising, or adhering to the schedule, their scores in the annual ISO audit can't be too flash.

Thanks for this. I will definately follow up with the dealer. Yes they attach the carbon copy to the invoice, but have not sighted the auto service wording to date. Cheers, Scott

[Ivo]

So we can only use genuine VW oil? Really? Surely it cant be that special that no other oil company can make a comparable oil?

I was going to use Fuchs in mine.

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Audi Vw Automatic Transmission Fluid - Vw Audi ATF - G 055 025 A2

http://www.nulon.com.au/support/specifications-list/371/

[Transporter]

I like the Nulon's note there; "NOTE: This is a recommendation only, please check your manual handbook for correct lubricant"

To me it's either approved or not and I'm sure that the Nulon product is not.
Use it at your own peril.

[Diesel_vert]

One of the VW specifications for the 6-speed transverse Aisin (Japanese) transmission is G-055-025-A2.

To date, I haven't seen an ATF approval list from VW like there is for engine oils. (Does it even exist? Probably not.)

If your transmission needs a G-055-025-A2 spec fluid, then you can try Mobil ATF 3309.

The internet says that JWS 3309, and Toyota T-IV can be considered interchangeable, and since Aisin has been an automotive supplier to Toyota since forever, it wouldn't at all surprise me if you could use Toyota T-IV fluid (save $$$).

Remember that VAG isn't Aisin's only customer.

[Transporter]

One of the VW specifications for the 6-speed transverse Aisin (Japanese) transmission is G-055-025-A2.

To date, I haven't seen an ATF approval list from VW like there is for engine oils. (Does it even exist? Probably not.)If your transmission needs a G-055-025-A2 spec fluid, then you can try Mobil ATF 3309.

The internet says that JWS 3309, and Toyota T-IV can be considered interchangeable, and since Aisin has been an automotive supplier to Toyota since forever, it wouldn't at all surprise me if you could use Toyota T-IV fluid (save $$$).

Remember that VAG isn't Aisin's only customer.

I'm sure if you call VW they would tell you what oil to use in AT. The transmissions and diff fluids aren't easy to check by the driver/owner, so they probably don't make such list a public affair.

I would probably stick with the well known oil company, when selecting ATF for VW car, even though it is the AISIN trany. Last time I looked at that specs oil, I was quoted $50/L in 1L bottles.

[Diesel_vert]

This is what G 055 052 A2 looks like:



Now obviously, VW don't actually make the fluid themselves. It would be supplied and bought from a lubricant manufacturer.

All I'm saying is, I would try and get the fluid direct from the lubricant manufacturer, rather than pay whatever VW are charging for it. $50/L!? Bloody hell...

I'm guessing a 20L container of Mobil ATF 3309 would cost way less than that...

I'm sure if you call VW they would tell you what oil to use in AT. The transmissions and diff fluids aren't easy to check by the driver/owner, so they probably don't make such list a public affair.

Yes, good idea.
It would be wise for the OP to double-check with VW, but I reckon it'll be the same ATF as shown above.

[Sunny43.5]

$50 a litre whats the stuff made of liquid gold ?????????????????????????? the fluid is sourced from a lubricant manufacturer so there must be an equivalant available . Or is this just a way for VW to extract more pesos from our wallets , I do know that some car makers will come up with a design parameter for their parts etc and then they will take out a license to protect what they see as "their " product .

[Transporter]

So, how much is the ATF in that picture above? (just asking)

This one looks the same to me and it is $50 +GST

[Diesel_vert]

So, how much is the ATF in that picture above? (just asking)

No idea, just plucked the picture off the internet!

This one looks the same to me and it is $50 +GST

That's probably because it is the same (except for that "hsy" sticker).

[lemmiwinks]

Very good information Diesl_vert! And yes, VW quoted me $50 per Litre for the OEM ATF and said I required 8L's. $400 for oil? You gotta be kidding me! Hence the reason to use Penrite DX-VI as recommended by another T5 owner.

The next time I'm down at the shops, I'll see how much Mobil ATF 3309 is and post back .

Funnily enough, ever since I created this thread, the transmission has been much better. Not as good as new, but better than What I experienced at times. Might consider purchasing the Mobil ATF 3309 and doing a complete flush.

[Umai Naa!!]

There was a previous version of the bottle that had a Texaco/Caltex star moulded into the lid.

And with that, I'll say no more. Mainly because I've not investigated it any further.