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    I read a report on Facebook out of the UK about the new VW van , seems there are a lot of unhappy people over there regarding the Ford engine in the van something to do with the wet belt system or whatever that is . Others report quality problems and even some saying the Ford version is actually better than the VW with design elements and styling . Anyone heard reports on the new version .

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    A wet belt is a timing belt that is constantly wet with oil from the sump. Silly silly idea that should never have been put into production, but Ford have been doing it for years on a few of their engines (as well as some other Euro brands like Renault etc). The 1.0L Ecoboost engine is probably the most "well known" engine for wet belt issues, as it was fitted to a bunch of cheap cars like the Fiesta and Focus - so heaps of them are on the roads in Europe.

    Basically the rubber on the timing belt starts breaking down over time and falls off in chunks and blocks the oil pickup in the sump. So if the timing belt doesn't snap from degradation, then your engine will lose oil pressure and kill itself that way instead.

    So if you are unlucky enough to own an engine with a wet belt, do oil changes more often than recommended by the manufacturer, and do the timing belt service more often than recommended to avoid a very expensive failure.
    2017 Ford Fiesta ST the go kart

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      Nearly as bad as VW not providing the "Robustness Kit' for the 2.0 diesels , I found about his from someone on this Forum . I then had the kit fitted to ours after my mates buggered up his engine when the serpentine belt ended up in the timing belt causing around $6k in damages .

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      • #4
        I have a wet belt on my Honda 4 stroke brushcutter. I don't know if Ford have changed their philosophy on the design life of their
        products but many years ago it was only 7 years.
        Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
        2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
        Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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        • #5
          Belts and oil are a recipe for disaster.
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          • #6
            Was originally considering for a while there in the reported Pan Americana variation but am begrudgingly turning away now...The question is to keep my 2018 T6 (110000 k's - not that many!) or look at the T7 Multivan options later in the year, the 150kW/320Nm 2.0-litre petrol offered in Europe would be awesome if it comes to Australia!
            Current: MY18 TRANSPORTER CrewVan, Indium Grey
            Previous: MY10 Tiguan 2.0TSI, Silver Leaf, APR StgII tune + many mod's

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
              Basically the rubber on the timing belt starts breaking down over time and falls off in chunks and blocks the oil pickup in the sump. So if the timing belt doesn't snap from degradation, then your engine will lose oil pressure and kill itself that way
              Here's a link with pics of belt deteriation & blocked suction screen on a PSA engine.
              Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
              2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
              Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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