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    So it's likely i need a new DPF for my 2012 multivan highline cfca 4motion. Any tips on hunting one down? Apparently the 4motion and 2wd dpf are different, making this a rare beast. I'm in Sydney but it might end up making sense shipping interstate. Thanks

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    No regen?
    2018 Crafter Runner
    2012 T5.1 6sp manual.
    2024 Crafter Auto

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    • #3
      Originally posted by heyasam View Post
      I'm in Sydney but it might end up making sense shipping interstate. Thanks
      Or even internationally if you've got the time.

      What's the cost of the parts in Australia from VW or other local providers?

      It looks like the part number is 7E0 254 700 JX (although the last characters could be different in later revisions, not sure as my parts listing is getting older everyday).

      Some examples that Google turned up, no word on their quality or anything else let alone any willingness (or cost) to ship to Australia.
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      Another not necessarily useful link is this one to place in WA which sadly don't publish prices, but I'm sure can answer your questions pretty quickly.
      Volkswagen Transporter Multivan CAT/DPF - Price + GST : Direct fit OEM DPF Sales Australia | DPF Sales & Service Australia - (0 92748295


      Or a place which seems to specialise in cleaning in Mascot:
      Volkswagen DPF Cleaning - Dpf Cleaning services

      If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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      • #4
        You could have it cleaned?
        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
        '01 Beetle 2.0

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        • #5
          In Sydney contact Western Filters, they can bake it clean. dpfcleaning.com.au I think.

          Will be a few places with the industrial oven to do so in Syd I reckon.

          Way cheaper than a new one.
          2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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          • #6
            Thanks heaps for the leads, i find out this morning if it's survived a clean or if it has some internal damage as suspected

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            • #7
              If it's screwed and you don't want to fork out for a new genuine one, there's always this:

              Transporter T5.1 2.0 TDI CR DPF Delete Downpipe

              You'd need a suitable delete tune, Darkside do very low to no soot tunes too...

              Just saying....
              2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Greg Roles View Post
                If it's screwed and you don't want to fork out for a new genuine one, there's always this:

                Transporter T5.1 2.0 TDI CR DPF Delete Downpipe

                You'd need a suitable delete tune, Darkside do very low to no soot tunes too...

                Just saying....

                They do some great gear, don't they?
                It's a pity most of it is illegal here.
                2018 Crafter Runner
                2012 T5.1 6sp manual.
                2024 Crafter Auto

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LogicprObe View Post
                  They do some great gear, don't they?
                  It's a pity most of it is illegal here.
                  Why worry about legality these days , with the world hurtling towards EV cars why concern yourself with a DPF , the only time it would be detected is if you go for a complete inspection by one of the various State Authorities . I have been pulled over by both Qld Transport and Qld Police not one of them bothered to check if the van was "legal " I even goaded a Qld Transport inspector when pulled over as it was clear as could be that the Lion Insignia on my Holden One tonner wheels was NOT VW standard . His reply was that they only want to check if a car is safe ie lights working tyres etc . I thanked him and drove away laughing at that one . I have said before if our DPF goes to lunch it will also go to lunch and never get back on the van .

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                  • #10
                    Thanks all, DPF survived the clean despite being suspected to be faulty. Fingers crossed old turbos now rebuilt was the cause and solution for this one. Maybe it was just age of the DPF though apparently the levels reported on diagnostics weren't too high. Guess I will know soon enough!
                    Last edited by heyasam; 09-03-2022, 10:56 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Lucky!!

                      I'd highly suggest fitting a Provent 200, dead easy on the transporter, to cull the oil blowby. Oil ash is what builds up in the DPF, can't be cooked out at normal car regen temps, and you will already be getting some oil burnt via normal engine oil leak spots, rings, valve guides, turbo bearings etc etc, so adding all the oil blowby going in pre turbo is all bad news for both inlet tract clogging and DPF ash loads.

                      But hey it's up to you!
                      2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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                      • #12
                        I couldn't find a Provent for the Transporter...........do you just use a Universal Kit?
                        2018 Crafter Runner
                        2012 T5.1 6sp manual.
                        2024 Crafter Auto

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                        • #13
                          A good quality catch can on a modern diesel is a no brainer - manufacturers should be fitting them as standard (or at the very least an optional extra).

                          I had to make a custom catch can kit for my SQ5 as no one made a kit for it (they only cater for the popular ute's like Amarok/Hilux/Ranger etc). You might need to make your own kit also.

                          Edit - looks like HPD make a kit for the Transporter. VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER Catch Can - OCC-B-VWT - HPD . Now ive seen tests on the HPD catch can, and its not as good as a Provent - but still better than nothing. If nothing else, you can see how simple the kit is so you can have some confidence to put your own kit together using a Provent catch can.

                          If you are going to put together your own kit, then I would suggest buying from (or visiting if you live close by) Western Filters in Blacktown. They are distributors for Provent and also sell all the rubber hoses, and nylon fittings etc. This is where I bought the parts to make my kit. Oil Catch Cans - Provent Accessories - Page 1 - Western Filters
                          Last edited by Lucas_R; 11-03-2022, 10:48 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Yep universal, on a diesel it's dead easy, only one circuit unlike petrol's two.

                            Buy a genuine Provent 200, they cost $180. All the cheap ones are China, and it's up to you if you want to risk the lower quality, they certainly have a lesser or even just mesh internal filter. Western Filters like Lucas suggests or Sydney Filters.

                            Buy the hoses from my transporter thread second post I think, ribbed and make curves and fitting easy. Provent is 1" 25mm and car is 3/4" or 17mm or so, these hoses taper to help the difference. Hook the can inlet from the tappet cover using the stock elbow fitting, the outlet goes in pre turbo, right after the airbox on the transporter. Run a drain hose with a tap fitting in the very end from the garden section at Bunnings, and drain it every 20tho kms or so. New element every 50 thou kms or so. Must be genuine. When it gets totally oil soaked and oil is in the upper area it's clogged.

                            Best thing you can do to any diesel. Here's a basic diagram for the older 1.9 PD TDI but the flow is all the same.....

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                            Last edited by Greg Roles; 11-03-2022, 10:20 AM.
                            2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                              A good quality catch can on a modern diesel is a no brainer - manufacturers should be fitting them as standard (or at the very least an optional extra).
                              They do mate, the tappet cover has a very complex oil separation system, but it's hindered by both space and heat, the remote catch can being a bit cooler is a big factor.
                              2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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