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  • I may start a new thread once it's received so people can find info or ask questions. I can also provide some comparison data on performance. The true test will be it's longevity.
    Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
    Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
    Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
    ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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    • Nice one, Sean. How is it expected to compare performance-wise with the hybrid you had before?
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      • Originally posted by Machine View Post
        Nice one, Sean. How is it expected to compare performance-wise with the hybrid you had before?
        It should be quite similar for outright power, perhaps marginally less, still ~160+kwat seems to be common on a K04. I plan to retune the car with Gavin and will run it on the marginally conservative side - not so much for the turbo itself, just to be a bit lighter on everything. Some traction in 3rd gear wouldn't go astray

        It's hard to say how it'll feel and come on boost, I haven't driven a K04'd polo to know.
        Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
        Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
        Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
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        • Is there any possibility of high flowing them?
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          • Originally posted by rgvlee View Post
            Is there any possibility of high flowing them?
            Really not sure. My ignorance was suggest can't see why not, but I don't know about these things. I won't be fiddling with it. Will speak with FTG about swapping the waste gate actuator out for my forge one (which is still on the old turbo... damn it shouldn't have done that) and that's all I'll be doing to it, for now.
            Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
            Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
            Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
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            • Some progress on things. The turbo has arrived and looks the goods. Have also ordered new turbo bolts and gaskets. Will get to fitting over the next week or two.






              Also picked up the shagged turbo on Tuesday. The exhaust side of the turbo has been well cooked. Though unfortunately still none the wiser as to the real cause. I wanted to rebuild and support locally, even at a higher price, but it'd be madness to get it rebuilt and do nothing different and expect a different outcome. If i can't find the root cause, it's just throwing money down the drain. Oh well, here's some pics. The oil has hardened (carbonised), and metal turned white, really quite interesting to see. Albeit disheartening.












              That's the exhaust side housing.
              Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
              Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
              Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
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              • Some progress over the week as I fit the ftg turbo. It's been mostly smooth sailing. I'd bought new gaskets and turbo bolts and Gavin has provided me washers to replace everything. Only 2 set backs so far. The turbo bolts that were in there were not VW ones which I thought they were, they were longer by about 10mm. The bolts that came out were actually a bit bent (from heat I guess), though the one towards the front of the car must have been put into before the manifold when back on, as I had the get an angle grinder to cut to remove the bolt as it was stuck against the engine block.

                The turbo is now bolted up, all lines connected though now stalled at connecting the turbo to the dump pipe. Standard turbo has studs on the exhaust side, the ftg doesn't... Dang. So will need to source some bolts to connect down pipe to the turbo. I'm also needing to source a new banjo bolt for the oil line. It's got nothing to do with the ftg turbo, the previous turbo required restricting the oil flow, so 3 of the 4 holes were welded. As this is a journal bearing turbo, it needs the usual/non-restricted oil flow. Autobarn had a banjo bolt, but only had 2 holes of similar/smaller diameter to the standard one. I'm not sure that'd allow sufficient oil flow.



                Standard turbo with studs:



                Beyond this, it's just re-installing the intercooler piping and intake I think. Unfortunately with the hold up for banjo bolt and dump pipe bolts it's going to be a next weekend job to finish

                Shout out to Gav as my motivational speaker, big thanks mate.
                Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
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                • Well done Sean. You can buy studs for the turbo on their own. I have seen them in Supercheap. Not named as turbo bolts but I used them as a repair part after one got stripped.

                  That original banjo would drill pretty easily, as the weld is mild steel.

                  Gavin
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                  • Excellent Re the studs. I don't know much about how they work so will research that. Guessing a high temp glue will also be needed.

                    I'll take the drill to the banjo and see what mess I make [emoji14]

                    I got trucking along quite smoothly today, few hours at a time to manage my levels of patience, lol.
                    Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                    Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                    Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
                    ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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                    • Nice one, Shorne. If you want help next weekend, let me know.
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                      • Originally posted by Machine View Post
                        Nice one, Shorne. If you want help next weekend, let me know.
                        Thanks mannequin, would be good to catch up for a beer to. [emoji106]
                        Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                        Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                        Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
                        ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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                        • Turbo is on, nothing is leaking and it drives fine. Only driven around with the N75 disconnected, so about 5psi boost, but all good for now.

                          All in the all, the turbo swap is a straight forward process, just a time consuming one, probably took me at least twice as long as should have. The biggest PITA was fitting the exhaust to turbo. I think the issue was largely contributed to with the UR front lower brace.

                          Now to up the boost and hold on.
                          Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                          Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                          Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
                          ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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                          • Nice one. So does this mean you'll be time attacking next weekend?
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                            APR Stage 2+ w/RFD | Autotech HPFP | IE CAI + BSH Heat Shield | NPC Clutch + SMF | HPX 3" TBE | CTS FMIC | VWR Short Shifter | Comp Haldex | Uprated Engine Mounts | MCA Red Suspension | HP Superpro LCA/ALK/Ball Joints | Superpro Rear Bushes | AP Racing BBK | P3 Gauge | 16% tint
                            Track wheels: 18x8 ET45 Enkei Racing PF01 | Tyres: 245/40R18 Yokohama Advan A050 Soft | Street: 245/35R19 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S

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                            • Originally posted by Machine View Post
                              Nice one. So does this mean you'll be time attacking next weekend?
                              Haha, tempting. I've got to get it logged first to see if any of the tune needs adjusting. I think I'll have to pass on participating next weekend, will get some k's on it first before I run it that hard. I'm planning to come up and watch.
                              Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                              Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                              Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
                              ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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                              • 250km done since fitting the turbo and it's all smiles. I've reconnected the N75 and it's boosting to 19psi. I've learnt lots from doing it myself and still learning more. The car doesn't boost quite as rapid as it did before, which is a good thing as it's a bit more controllable from wheel spin - though that's only a twitch away. I've got full boost at about 3200rpm which I think is similar to before, it's just a bit more progressive as it comes on. This could be/probably is due to the wastegate actuator not being wound up quite as tight as it was before. Either way, I feel it's better for me.

                                I have ordered VCDS Lite activation codes so I can log it to see what's going on, hoping the access code turns up tonight. Also really hoping it doesn't need a retune. If the logging shows it's all safe, I'll try get some performance figures again in the coming weeks. I don't feel there's much between the two turbo's. Some of the nuances I won't know till I'm on the track as you can't replicate that driving style on the street.

                                Before the turbo swap, I also installed QFM A1RM brake pads in the front. Wow, these are awesome, so much braking power. Almost put myself through the windscreen a few times earlier in the week. Drove my silver car last night and almost ran through a stop sign... The brake set-up is awesome.

                                Things to do:
                                - soften off the rear sway bar to it's softest setting (from hardest). In the wet this week, it feels a little too dancey. It's been fun on the track, though I think the tendency to wiggle the rear may be holding back my confidence to commit. Easy way to find out.
                                - replace the rear muffler with something quieter, lol.
                                - drive the damn thing like it's meant to be driven
                                Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                                Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                                Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
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