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  • #16
    Anyone had issues with the crappy gromet that the boost signal capillary slips into supplied with the Autometer boost gauge? I cable tied the gromet but since it's been chipped under hard boost it keeps blowing off, any solutions besides glueing the thing in? I also have a solution to the traction problem, don't use more than half throttle!!
    Joe Chu

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joe Chu View Post
      Anyone had issues with the crappy gromet that the boost signal capillary slips into supplied with the Autometer boost gauge? I cable tied the gromet but since it's been chipped under hard boost it keeps blowing off, any solutions besides glueing the thing in? I also have a solution to the traction problem, don't use more than half throttle!!
      can only agree mate ,start slowly then let her go, otherwise she just wheel spins. i evan find going to hard in 2nd gets a lil spin. not that im complaining
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      • #18
        Do some people exaggerate when it comes to wheelspin?

        My car has all the go fast bits and when it does come on boost under hard acceleration, the esp light comes on and there is some tyre squeel but its not like some people here describe. Like its uncontrollable or something.

        Unless you take off at above 2000rpm its not gonna go ballistic on you.

        Changing into second gear at end of first gear it wont spin through second like some people say.. Third gear it wont spin unless your in the wet.

        Occassionally in 2nd gear the ESP light flashes away a little but its hardly crazy.

        I dont know maybe coming from 500+ hp cars that really smoke them up and drift all over the place, I dont get too excited about the GTI spinning. Seems no more prone to spinning than any car with a bit of power.

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        • #19
          Doesn't spin in 2nd you say? Oliverconnell's 1.6 with gti tread spins in second, well chirps anyway.

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          • #20
            I don't get much spin in 2nd.

            1st isn't hard to get when it hits the near 3k rpm torque lump.

            Its no fun with traction control off, and with the tramping its not much fun (and probably not that much good for the suspension and components).

            Tried the traction control off in the wet the other day and the torque steer matched with loss of traction was crazy. Not turning the traction off again any time soon...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by AusScare View Post
              Doesn't spin in 2nd you say? Oliverconnell's 1.6 with gti tread spins in second, well chirps anyway.
              That's just pure abuse, dropping the clutch between gears to chirp the tyres. This is talking about rolling in 2nd gear, planting the throttle and getting wheel spin.

              Petrina Polo; agreed completely!! I think nearly everyone exagerates about the amount of wheelspin.

              Only ever had ESP light flash in 2nd a couple times as well (APR V1 software only).

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              • #22
                By no means have I been exaggerating my wheelspin issues ......

                My Polo GTI made max power @ 5100rmin (but it was APR V1) thanks to a custom DP and in 2nd gear whilst rolling past 5000rmin at full throttle went into wheelspin everytime even on a dry road. In fact I made within 2kw of max atw power everywhere between 5000rmin and 6500rmin .... talk about a power band .......

                1st gear became unsuable (even with ESP on) to the extent that I started "losing" the odd merge in front situation ....... (.... to rubbish cars ....)

                It was much more driveable when it made 10kw less at the wheels (ie before the DP went on)

                I got so fed up with it ..... that I sold it ... and ordered 2 AWD VWs ....

                (... better tyres might have helped but I want lots and lots of power and don't want to battle wheelspin all the time .... so look out for a Tiguan with 200+kw atw in the near future)
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
                  By no means have I been exaggerating my wheelspin issues ......

                  My Polo GTI made max power @ 5100rmin (but it was APR V1) thanks to a custom DP and in 2nd gear whilst rolling past 5000rmin at full throttle went into wheelspin everytime even on a dry road. In fact I made within 2kw of max atw power everywhere between 5000rmin and 6500rmin .... talk about a power band .......

                  1st gear became unsuable (even with ESP on) to the extent that I started "losing" the odd merge in front situation ....... (.... to rubbish cars ....)

                  It was much more driveable when it made 10kw less at the wheels (ie before the DP went on)

                  I got so fed up with it ..... that I sold it ... and ordered 2 AWD VWs ....

                  (... better tyres might have helped but I want lots and lots of power and don't want to battle wheelspin all the time .... so look out for a Tiguan with 200+kw atw in the near future)
                  Um, did your car come equipped with a binary throttle (eg, either off or on)... because most of us just take it a bit easy on the loud pedal when in first...

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                  • #24
                    When I put my foot down in 1st, i don't drop the clutch for a quick start.

                    When the turbo torque kicks in, it can be a bit tricky to juggle a comfortable but quick take-off.

                    Its not the end of the world, but on frequent city / suburban driving, isn't the best feature of the car.

                    maybe I'd be more suited to V1...

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                    • #25
                      Hmm, this wheelspin is a concern + the risks with voiding the warranty.

                      Has anyone had a mild-chip done ie. http://www.evolve-technik.com.au/pro...m=Polo&id=1345 & can comment on the handling?

                      I think Pixl was looking at this. If you're reading man, how'd you go?
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                      • #26
                        Haven't done it yet, but will be looking to do it soon.

                        Ben GTI on here has done it, I think he went for conservative one first (the one that I'm after, around the 140kw mark) but decided he wanted more power and got on of Evolve's other offerings. Although I could be thinking about someone else... been a while since I first looked into it.

                        Either way, it's definitely what I'm after. Which is basically a similiar tune to the Polo Cup.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ralfi View Post
                          Hmm, this wheelspin is a concern + the risks with voiding the warranty.
                          Don't get me wrong, I don't think that less power is the solution.

                          The traction issues I experience would also relate to my setup. i've got the H&R springs with stock shocks which may increase the way the wheel bounces up and down on the road. Maybe putting the matched Bilsen shocks on would improve this, but there more than a grand, so this was my first step. I don't doubt that a good set of Koni's would improve the traction.

                          In my quest for improving the traction, next option is the rear suspension Bushes that JMac has brought in (thanks Dude) which will help reduce the forward-back movement of the wheel/suspension. Hopefully these bushes will improve the tramping in a similar (but different) way to the dogbone (engine) mount.

                          The other thing I'm looking at for aesthetics and performance is the wheels / tyres. People have varied opinions on the stock Conti's, I'm hoping with some 7" wide wheels (over the stock 6.5's) and nice rubber (which type I'm not sure of yet) more traction will be found. Many of the people who have changed their tyres (and sometimes rims) have noted improved traction on acceleration and cornering.

                          Personally, I wouldn't go the 1/2 measure tune, chances are you are likely to want more not long after.

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                          • #28
                            I'm not saying that the wheelspin is much of an issue. It just came as a real shock when i drove like i used and that would light up my wheels dry/wet 1st,2nd and i got 3rd spin too . I just adjust my driving style and its all good
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by noone View Post
                              The other thing I'm looking at for aesthetics and performance is the wheels / tyres. People have varied opinions on the stock Conti's, I'm hoping with some 7" wide wheels (over the stock 6.5's) and nice rubber (which type I'm not sure of yet) more traction will be found. Many of the people who have changed their tyres (and sometimes rims) have noted improved traction on acceleration and cornering.

                              Personally, I wouldn't go the 1/2 measure tune, chances are you are likely to want more not long after.
                              as far as im aware, conti isnt really rated for good grip- people have rated michelin pp2's, marangoni linea zetas, etc etc- tires of those ilk, to be much better.

                              im on bf goodrich gforce sports, and these have been reviewed online to be comparable to much more expensive tires- indeed, the bite on them is friggin fantastic, when cornering. and i only get abit of chirp in quick gear changes into second, before being plastered back into my seat by 320+nm. tires will make a significant change for sure.

                              as for the 1/2 measure tune- either way, boost AND fuelling WILL be increased. the thing with a 'half tune' is that boost and fuelling is conservatively increased, and 'greater economy' is achieved by the end user backing off on the accelerator. get a driver who wants to exploit the slightly-increased boost of a new map, and that claimed economy advantage disappears just like it would with a full tune.

                              i get better economy on fast road map than i do on stock map, IF AND WHEN i abstain/ drive conservatively. noone's right- driver abstinance being the only constant, i reckon you'd be better off with a full tune for when you want to play in the hills.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Petrina Polo View Post
                                Do some people exaggerate when it comes to wheelspin?

                                My car has all the go fast bits and when it does come on boost under hard acceleration, the esp light comes on and there is some tyre squeel but its not like some people here describe. Like its uncontrollable or something.

                                Unless you take off at above 2000rpm its not gonna go ballistic on you.

                                Changing into second gear at end of first gear it wont spin through second like some people say.. Third gear it wont spin unless your in the wet.

                                Occassionally in 2nd gear the ESP light flashes away a little but its hardly crazy.

                                I dont know maybe coming from 500+ hp cars that really smoke them up and drift all over the place, I dont get too excited about the GTI spinning. Seems no more prone to spinning than any car with a bit of power.
                                Ever thought that maybe you don't have wheels spin issues because you have ESP on?

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