Intercoolers and for Polo GTI and TDI...and other products!

[Spec83]

The slightly extra pipe length won't cause a restriction as Ben mentioned above.. don't worry about it

[Sharkie]

Extra pipe length causes more lag and not any flow restrictions.

As I said above ..... difference between the FMIC types will less than 1kw atw, ALL of them making more than stock and all an improvement over stock.

And .... piping directly into the intake will cause much more power loss than using any inefficient IC ... LOL

[Plautos]

Don’t matter how the intercooler is designed!!
The air inside is compressed!! Or it goes or it goes!!
You will find efficiency in the size of the intercooler bigger is better and in the kind of “beehive” used on it!
The turbo will spool faster if it finds more resistance.

The size of the piping isn’t a big problem the lag will be minimal…

Focus on how long the air will be within the intercooler..

[seangti]

Isn't the idea of a FMIC to add more power not take it away? Am I missing something? Forge 'claim' significant power & torque gains right through the rev range or so they say.

None the less Sharkie I'd be interested in a FMIC if the price is right.

The idea is heat dissipation, less heat equals more power. If you can find a mate with a front mount, go for a fang around the block than hold in out and intake pipes and check out the heat difference. It's all about heat dissipation.

So a front mount with poor design and bad core will be a waste of time and money.

Are the stock radiators good enough that fitting a front mount doesn't cause overheating issues??

[Guy_H]

The idea is heat dissipation, less heat equals more power. If you can find a mate with a front mount, go for a fang around the block than hold in out and intake pipes and check out the heat difference. It's all about heat dissipation.

So a front mount with poor design and bad core will be a waste of time and money.

Are the stock radiators good enough that fitting a front mount doesn't cause overheating issues??

Overheating is a big issue with FMIC's, we regularly run at Queensland raceway where the ambient temp will be 40 deg C plus, and overheating is a major issue with turbo cars & front mount intercoolers.

It is important to factor in the pressure drop BEHIND the intercooler, I have a friend with a 700hp R34 skyline who is on his third FMIC to finally find one that cooled the charge AND did not cause engine temps to go through the roof.

The APR US data is here: http://www.goapr.com.au/products/pol...tercooler.html

We also ran our (APR) Polo intercooler on PWR's intercooler flow tester and compared to others that they tested, it performed very well with inside & outside pressure drop. We wanted to make sure before we spent the money to manufacture the unit.

On a street car driven at 60 all day you might not find any cooling problems, but get it out on the track & pull redline in the gears, lap after lap & you will soon see how it works!

[seangti]

cheers guy, am I right to assume APR FMIC's have proven reliable after a day at the track in maintaining underbonnet (radiator) temps safely?

[Sharkie]

I can attest to the fact that my FMIC (non-APR) after a day at the track in Warwick, 5 sessions on the day, each with 12-15 laps, had no impact on water temps in the radiator. In fact the needle did not even budge off its normal operating temp spot.

Since I did not see any smoke or other vapours from Eddy's car (APR FMIC) and did not hear any complaints from him on the day I am pretty confident in attesting to the fact that the APR FMIC also has no impact on water temps after a day at the track.

[VW GTI]

I can attest to the fact that my FMIC (non-APR) after a day at the track in Warwick, 5 sessions on the day, each with 12-15 laps, had no impact on water temps in the radiator. In fact the needle did not even budge off its normal operating temp spot.

Since I did not see any smoke or other vapours from Eddy's car (APR FMIC) and did not hear any complaints from him on the day I am pretty confident in attesting to the fact that the APR FMIC also has no impact on water temps after a day at the track.

Me with my pleb-like stock intercooler also had no issues (keeping up with Eddy that is )

[Guy_H]

No probs on our K04 Polo, we did two big track days (40 laps at QR, and 35 laps at Warwick) before running it in the Dutton rally series - three sets of brakes, and 4 sets of tyres . Temps were good!

[VW GTI]

No probs on our K04 Polo, we did two big track days (40 laps at QR, and 35 laps at Warwick) before running it in the Dutton rally series - three sets of brakes, and 4 sets of tyres . Temps were good!

You should be giving me those brakes rather than using them up like that.

[RhysQ]

why did i even bother starting this thread? it got hijacked and then thrown far off topic.

obviously no-one is interested in any of the products i found apart from a 'maybe' on the TIP, so i will close this very soon.

anyones 'how do APR FMIC's handle track days?' questions can be asked via PM or a new thread thanks.

and thank you sharkie for starting your own thread re: EOI Polo GTI FMIC's!

[Blitzen]

I was interested in the intercooler kit, but my accident and subsequent paying of my extra "Performance Car" excess of $450 on top of my normal $400 excess put paid to me chasing it any further for the next few months.

[seangti]

why did i even bother starting this thread? it got hijacked and then thrown far off topic.

obviously no-one is interested in any of the products i found apart from a 'maybe' on the TIP, so i will close this very soon.

anyones 'how do APR FMIC's handle track days?' questions can be asked via PM or a new thread thanks.

and thank you sharkie for starting your own thread re: EOI Polo GTI FMIC's!

My apologies for thinking my question entirely off topic, in the vane of the conversation it thought it was a relevent question to those of us trying to compare what you are offering (at a very reasonable price) to those that are considerably more.

Thanks for flaming a new member.


So back on topic, have these FMIC's been proving on the track in similar conditions as the above?

[Blitzen]

My apologies for thinking my question entirely off topic, in the vane of the conversation it thought it was a relevent question to those of us trying to compare what you are offering (at a very reasonable price) to those that are considerably more.

Thanks for flaming a new member.


So back on topic, have these FMIC's been proving on the track in similar conditions as the above?

I don't think it was quite a flaming...He was just getting a point across. Until you have have had a thread go way off topic and turn to clag(just look at Shaneths Dyno Sheet thread, or any Dyno thread for that matter!!), you will see that it is annoying as hell. I don't mean to sound rude toward you man, sorry if I did.
About the airflow through the radiator, give the guys at the site an email and endevour to find out.

Ryan

[RhysQ]

My apologies for thinking my question entirely off topic, in the vane of the conversation it thought it was a relevent question to those of us trying to compare what you are offering (at a very reasonable price) to those that are considerably more.

Thanks for flaming a new member.


So back on topic, have these FMIC's been proving on the track in similar conditions as the above?

its not my product mate, as the post says its just something i found on the internet.

definitely no flaming going on, especially not to you as the post was not even nearly aimed at you. if you read the first page again you will figure out who it was for.

as ryan said, until it happens to you, you won't understand, it's just bloody annoying.... and unfortunately it happens to almost every thread.