APR FULL Exhaust

[Chipped]

No I just jumped in and drove, I assume everything would have been set and ready to go.

[Blitzen]

No I just jumped in and drove, I assume everything would have been set and ready to go.

I'd go and get the specific tune for the Dump Pipe. Its is out there, and I believe it dosn't cost any extra to get done.

[RhysQ]

...its a lot of cash for a little gain....nothing beats the chip for value for $$...you'll never achieve such a noticable mod again.

oooohhh come on chipped, we've had this discussion before...

Brian from quattro is possibly quite correct nothing beats bang for buck like a chip. FMIC for 5kw = $2,500. Exhaust for 8kw $2500. Chip for 42kw $1500.
I think everything after a chip is an expensive kw crawl but fun if modding is ya thing...sure its not all about kw and nm but it gives you an idea.

i know the following response is in relation to an FMIC but the DP and HFC hold off heat soak for quite a while as well...

not necessarily correct Chipped, that 42kW will only last you the first 5-10mins of driving then heatsoak will set in and you'll be down to about ~125-130kW at the flywheel (100-105kW at the wheels) from then on until your car has cooled right down again. thats a big difference from the ~150kW at the fly on your first few minutes of driving.

for the price of FMIC's and downpipes they should not be discarded. an FMIC may only give you an extra 5-7kW at the wheels from a cold start, but it will keep the power at that level consistently even when the car heats up. so really, an FMIC is giving you about 25-30kW at the flywheel on top of the chip on a hot engine.

There have been FMIC core's available on this site for ~$300 (about $950 installed), now thats value!

downpipes have been proven to give you about 7kW extra and hold off heatsoak for a lot longer as well.

but in my eyes these mods should be done AFTER the chip for maximum output!

Cheers,
Rhys

when heatsoak sets in on my stock exhaust chipped Polo GTI and puts me back from 152kW to 110kw, you'll be still powering away with your 159kW (quoted) for quite some time. there's plenty of value there!

[Chipped]

I'd go and get the specific tune for the Dump Pipe. Its is out there, and I believe it dosn't cost any extra to get done.

Surely the APR guys here (Quattro) would have installed it while doing the DP and HFC...I'll ring them and check.
So I should be feeling a noticeable difference? Actually feels like the turbo is spooling slightly later not earlier. Could all be in my head tho..I am getting a bit old.

[Chuck]

Thanks everyone for your replies...i think i will be going ahead with the mod early this year...holding off heatsoak (without FMIC) is a big plus...also like the idea of free spooling and raspy note

Chipped: cheers for the offer...will definately T something up with you soon for a look/listen/pick your brain session - are you the white GTi with the cool APR Tuned badge @ the Galleria underground pre Sunday cruise?

Last question...new exhaust tip - anyone done it? Reccomendations? Note change at all?? Thinking of doing it after the dump/cat mod....will have to have a talk with Brian @ Quattro and see what he recommends

[Chipped]

Chipped: cheers for the offer...will definately T something up with you soon for a look/listen/pick your brain session - are you the white GTi with the cool APR Tuned badge @ the Galleria underground pre Sunday cruise?

Yeah thats me...eekk

[Chuck]

fantastic will be in touch...im out with a head cold at the moment (in summer...what the heck!?)

...2 cruises this weekend...Friday night and Sunday arvo

Sunday arvo will be tame...coastal run...Friday night - hardcore!

Let me know if your keen for either...Sunday arvo will be very casual, bring the fam

[VW GTI]

Surely the APR guys here (Quattro) would have installed it while doing the DP and HFC...I'll ring them and check.
So I should be feeling a noticeable difference? Actually feels like the turbo is spooling slightly later not earlier. Could all be in my head tho..I am getting a bit old.

You'd be getting exhaust lights on your dash if they didn't.

[mozzzy_2000]

Hey chipped keep us posted as to the performance of the downpipe/HFC. I am mulling over whether to get this done as well. If it helps to control heatsoak then our very late WA summer heat will be an ideal testing ground. I've been driving around the heat these past few days and it may be me getting use to the new speed of the APR tune but I cant help but think these hot days are really slowing down my car. At times it feels like its not even chipped! I never really never noticed it when stock but since the APR tune it is very noticable. I am trying to decide whether to go a FMIC or exhaust ugrade at this stage. Having said I want to sort out the suspension as well. Huge wish list, not much cash...lol

[VW GTI]

OK, here's my review of the APR Downpipe.

I was the first person to have the downpipe installed - it was delivered to Guy the day I was there. I got it done the same time as the tune (and TIP/engine mount) so I can't comment on the benefits separately...

I drive it every day (done around 18000kms in the 12 months I've owned it - 13000 since the upgrade, including a track day).

First thing I noticed was the sound, it is more 'burbly' than stock and sounds more like a rally car with the occasional popping/crackling noise when you back off at high revs. The sound of the turbo is also a fair bit louder and you can hear the air being sucked in.

Dyno says I have about 7-8kw atw up on just a tune. 8kw atw for $1100 is pretty good - obviously nowhere near as much as the tune (42kw for $1500), but still worth the increase.

I would do it again if I started again.

[Chipped]

OK, here's my review of the APR Downpipe.

I was the first person to have the downpipe installed - it was delivered to Guy the day I was there. I got it done the same time as the tune (and TIP/engine mount) so I can't comment on the benefits separately...

I drive it every day (done around 18000kms in the 12 months I've owned it - 13000 since the upgrade, including a track day).

First thing I noticed was the sound, it is more 'burbly' than stock and sounds more like a rally car with the occasional popping/crackling noise when you back off at high revs. The sound of the turbo is also a fair bit louder and you can hear the air being sucked in.

Dyno says I have about 7-8kw atw up on just a tune. 8kw atw for $1100 is pretty good - obviously nowhere near as much as the tune (42kw for $1500), but still worth the increase.

I would do it again if I started again.

Yeah my case is a bit different going from 7 months of APR tune then a DP and HFC added..I gotta try and feel those extra 8kw ATW as opposed to the Tune and DP together. I admit she sounds awesome...but still trying to work out the performance side...remember I have only been for a couple of drives wanna give it a good week or so.

Mozzy yeah I'm with you on the Perth summers. I'm ex-Melbourne where wait a couple of days and it'll be 13 degrees..again.
You'll enjoy Perth winter mornings thats for sure. Will keep you posted on the DP and HFC.

[Sharkie]

DP and FMIC was worth 17kw atw to me for about $1500 fitted. So a bit less than the 30kw atw that a chip provides but well worth the combined effort to provide almost 50kw atw extra over a stockcar.

APR DP and FMIC will set you back over $3500 (fitted) for almost the same result.

[Chuck]

DP and FMIC was worth 17kw atw to me for about $1500 fitted.

How?!?! Please explain...where did you get this done!

[mozzzy_2000]

How?!?! Please explain...where did you get this done!

Yeah I agree! Being in Perth with it being so small, there is just not enough 'performance' workshops that can be bothered doing this kind of thing for a car such as the Pog. Perth is great if you have a commodore like every other man & his dog! lol

[VW GTI]

Yeah I agree! Being in Perth with it being so small, there is just not enough 'performance' workshops that can be bothered doing this kind of thing for a car such as the Pog. Perth is great if you have a commodore like every other man & his dog! lol

As far as I know, nothing but the intercooler piping was done by a VW specialist, just an exhaust shop.