APR ECU Version 2.0 loaded...!

[Bug_racer]

Why bother trying to push every last limit of the KO3s then , why dont you just get a gt28 ? Its cheaper doing it that way !

[VW GTI]

Why bother trying to push every last limit of the KO3s then , why dont you just get a gt28 ? Its cheaper doing it that way !

This is a very good point. Although I wouldn't go to a gt28 unless you could find a way to fit more than 205s (or 215s at a stretch) under the front.

[DubSteve]

This is a very good point. Although I wouldn't go to a gt28 unless you could find a way to fit more than 205s (or 215s at a stretch) under the front.

A LSD and how hard can it be to fit 215s under the front, A friend of mine is mine is running 225s all round on his mk3.

[Guy_H]

MK3 has about 20mm more wheel arch width than a Polo.

205's no rubbing

215's + rubbing

[VW GTI]

A LSD and how hard can it be to fit 215s under the front, A friend of mine is mine is running 225s all round on his mk3.

When my car was delivered it had 225s on it. I couldn't go round a normal 90 degree corner at traffic speed without rubbing. Let alone when I pushed it hard like you would with a gt28.

LSD would help, but I don't think you understand how bad the lack of traction can be even with only 130kw atw.

[DubSteve]

LSD would help, but I don't think you understand how bad the lack of traction can be even with only 130kw atw.

Lack of traction is evident even in the VR already even without the SC kit

[WHTPOLOGTI]

hi guys. just had my polo gti flashed with APR V2 today. it is awesome. so much power down low. should of done this ages ago. FYI the prices have now gone up due to the weak AUS dollar. i was a few days too late.

[Blitzen]

FYI the prices have now gone up due to the weak AUS dollar. i was a few days too late.

Maybe Guy can help me out with this, but I fail to see how the programs costs have gone up due to the weak Aussie dollar when the program is loaded into the installers computer, and plugged into the car.
If the APR dealers had V2 a few weeks ago, when the dollar was higher still loaded into the same computers, how is the price higher now??
I understand that development comes into the costing(just like anything), and licensing too, but if the product has been developed, tested, then sent out to the prospective franchise owners though out the world, why is the price up now compared to a few weeks ago.

Like I said, this is just a query, but I just don't get it, so please, be gentle.

[Guy_H]

There is no charge for the updates (apart from Labor) - but if you have not noticed, we have dropped over 25% on the US dollar in 8 weeks - That means it is costing us over 25% more to import the products now (and don't forget duties & taxes snowball onto those amounts as well.)

The Polo software was reduced in price in June, unfortunately it has to go back up to its pre June price again

Hardware (imported) is worse.

[Blitzen]

I can understand why hardware that you import must go up, but I really don't understand why computer software that is already over here must go up in price.

[VW GTI]

Blitzen, the 'owner' of the software is still overseas, meaning whenever a sale is made here, the money would go to APR US - the developers of the software. The difference between software and hardware is Guy would need to pay for the hardware to get it here and then sell it. With software it means they pay for the license when they sell it which means the exchange rate at each sale is always current. Therefore, the price here has to go up because the amount of cash going overseas is larger and they still need their margins.

Guy is APR Australia, which is really just a reseller for APR US.

[Blitzen]

Blitzen, the 'owner' of the software is still overseas, meaning whenever a sale is made here, the money would go to APR US - the developers of the software. The difference between software and hardware is Guy would need to pay for the hardware to get it here and then sell it. With software it means they pay for the license when they sell it which means the exchange rate at each sale is always current. Therefore, the price here has to go up because the amount of cash going overseas is larger and they still need their margins.

Guy is APR Australia, which is really just a reseller for APR US.

Mmmmmm...I'm suppose...I'm still not convinced, but thats not to say that it isn't the truth...I do agree that for the price, the APR tune(and any other tuners for that matter)is awesome bang for its buck...May I'm just being overly tight!!!

[Flaps]

How come the prices of other tuning companies don't go up?

[Golf Houso]

Well, if the $ goes down by 30% and your markup is say 50%, then theoretically the price of complete software software should only go up 15% to keep the same level of profit, hence around a $250 (given software is $1600) rise in cost to maintain the same profit margin.

so are we expecting $1800-$1900 software programs from now on?
What do GIAC and the others charge, don't they start at $1200?

[VW GTI]

Mmmmmm...I'm suppose...I'm still not convinced, but thats not to say that it isn't the truth...I do agree that for the price, the APR tune(and any other tuners for that matter)is awesome bang for its buck...May I'm just being overly tight!!!

It's just what I've found from my work. I do a bit of work for a company in NZ. A few months back when our dollar was killing it the NZ $ was worth nothing. I had to stop quoting in NZD to cover myself, now I always quote in AUD and they either get a good deal or a crap deal depending on the exchange rate at the time. So, their charge out rate for my work needs to accommodate the fluctuation or they'd be changing their rate every day.