Oil for Polo 9N 1.9TDI

[ilium007]

I am trying to find the correct oil to purchase for a 1.9TDI AXR engine.

Supercheap oil selector in store comes up with Castrol Edge 5W-30 LL which has manufacturer approval 507.00 (from VW)

I thought I was supposed to use 505.01 but can't find it anywhere.

Stuff I have read says 507.00 supersedes 505.01 other site say that it doesn't.

What oil are people running in their 1.9 TDI AXR engines?

I have looked on all the major oil manufacturer Australian websites and they state "Refer to Dealer" whilst the UK Castrol site recommends Castrol Edge 5W-30 LL which I can purchase at Supercheap but it says its 507.00.

[kaanage]

I just buy any oil with the 507 spec oil with proper certification that is on special at one of the auto stores so I have one oil to use with my Polo and our CR TDi Golf.

There's a big thread about 507 vs 505 oil in the oils and lubricants forum and basically you can use 507 to replace 505.

[ilium007]

I just buy any oil with the 507 spec oil with proper certification that is on special at one of the auto stores so I have one oil to use with my Polo and our CR TDi Golf.

There's a big thread about 507 vs 505 oil in the oils and lubricants forum and basically you can use 507 to replace 505.

Yeah - I've spent the past 4hrs reading thread after thread saying that 507.00 is or isn't compatible. The main issue seems to be that 507.00 is 5W-30 and most people owning these PD engines suffer early camshaft wear and that the thinner oil is only making the problem worse.

[ilium007]

I just buy any oil with the 507 spec oil with proper certification that is on special at one of the auto stores so I have one oil to use with my Polo and our CR TDi Golf.

There's a big thread about 507 vs 505 oil in the oils and lubricants forum and basically you can use 507 to replace 505.

Yeah - I've spent the past 4hrs reading thread after thread saying that 507.00 is or isn't compatible. The main issue seems to be that 507.00 is 5W-30 rather than the recommended 5W-40 and most people owning these PD engines suffer early camshaft wear and that the thinner oil is only making the problem worse.

[ilium007]

At this stage I’m leaning towards Mobil 1 Delvac ESP 5W-40

[Lucas_R]

Penrite have a 5w-40 which is 505 spec. I used to run this in my Mk6 GTI.

Penrite Enviro+ Engine Oil - 5W-40 5 Litre | Supercheap Auto

[ilium007]

Penrite have a 5w-40 which is 505 spec. I used to run this in my Mk6 GTI.

Penrite Enviro+ Engine Oil - 5W-40 5 Litre | Supercheap Auto

Ordered the Penrite Environ+ 5W40. Cheers

[kaanage]

Given that the AXR doesn't run a dpf, the oil spec is a LOT less critical than for the TDis that do

[Sydneykid]

Nulon Euro 5W30, approved by VW, it's 507 spec exceeds 505.1 in all areas.

Full Synthetic 5W-30 European Engine Oil - Nulon Products Australia



Cheers
Gary

[ilium007]

Oil for Polo 9N 1.9TDI

Nulon Euro 5W30, approved by VW, it's 507 spec exceeds 505.1 in all areas.

Full Synthetic 5W-30 European Engine Oil - Nulon Products Australia



Cheers
Gary

This is what I don’t understand. I’ve read countless forum threads with people debating whether or not 507 supersedes 505.01. I saw emails to and from VW where they say it does, other emails from VW say that it absolutely does not.

And that oil is 5W30 which is not specified for the 1.9TDI PD engine. It requires 5W40.

[ilium007]

Given that the AXR doesn't run a dpf, the oil spec is a LOT less critical than for the TDis that do

The oil spec in the PD diesel IS critical as the cam lobes that are used to pressurise the fuel to each injector wear out prematurely if the wrong oil is used - actually they wore out even with the correct 505.01 oil. This led to a bunch of people sending oil samples away in the USA to Blackstone to be analysed throughout each oil change lifetime and some guys started running Mobil 1 Delvac ESP 5W40 with excellent success and results better compared to any of the guys running 505.01 oils.

[kaanage]

Better to put this topic into the general forum for lubricants, then. There are far more PD engines in golfs than polos.

[Sydneykid]

This is what I don’t understand. I’ve read countless forum threads with people debating whether or not 507 supersedes 505.01. I saw emails to and from VW where they say it does, other emails from VW say that it absolutely does not.
And that oil is 5W30 which is not specified for the 1.9TDI PD engine. It requires 5W40.

The improvements in oil technology (particularly shear) from when 505.01 was issued and when 507 was issued means that the previous requirement for 5W40 is redundant ie; an approved (for 507) 5W30 exceeds the requirements for an approved (in 2004 for 505.01 ) 5W40 in regards to high load viscosity. Keeping in mind that the W40 versus W30 rating is a temperature rating not a load rating.


Cheers
Gary

[ilium007]

The improvements in oil technology (particularly shear) from when 505.01 was issued and when 507 was issued means that the previous requirement for 5W40 is redundant ie; an approved (for 507) 5W30 exceeds the requirements for an approved (in 2004 for 505.01 ) 5W40 in regards to high load viscosity. Keeping in mind that the W40 versus W30 rating is a temperature rating not a load rating.


Cheers
Gary

I found out that VW only specified 507.00 for LongLife PR code vehicles. I have decided to run 505.01 for the next 5000km and will then switch to Mobil Delvac ESP 5W40.

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Sydneykid]

I found out that VW only specified 507.00 for LongLife PR code vehicles.

That's true, but that's because non Long Life PR code vehicles don't need 507. It's like not using Pump98 because VW specifies Pump95.

Cheers
Gary