Polo GTI High Oil Usage - Discussion Thread

[Hooti3]

I had a 250km drive to do over the weekend and the oil light came on. Mind you I'm over 250kms from home. I top the engine up with what I had in the car (about 750mls). I checked the dipstick before I put the oil in (mind you the car by this stage was properly warm (Oil temp at 90). There was not 1 drop of oil on the dipstick.

I called my service center to let them know and apparently I did the wrong thing and I should have just driven with no oil in the car and got I back to the service center. They needed the results to send back to VW for the oil consumption test.

I will be in touch with my solicitor this week.

I got a lemon and I am not standing for this crap anymore. The oil consumption should be going down after the piston ring replacement, not get drastically worse!

They can't guarantee any of the fixes will actually fix the issue, that as far as I am concerned is not good enough.

[kawabanga]

What makes you think they aren't doing this?

They didn't find the solution yet: the pic is a clear example, because is a replaced engine and hs the same problems...
They are trying also by only replacing pistons and piston rings, without good results...

My concernings are that some guys found high oil consumption only after a certain milleage, so what happen if the warranty has already expired?? I don't want to use my money!!
VW's oil consumption limit reported on the user manual is 1liter every 2000Kms, crazy! I don't want to have a car that in the future could have this oil consumption and no warranty to cover the expenses: if VW is a serious brand should recall ALL the GTI produced and replace the engine with the new one, once they found a definitive solution...

[Hail22]

Recalling all the Polo GTIs on the market now would destroy the production line, they would need to stop production for re-designing of the vehicles engine bore, powertrain, turbo (whether it would be single or twin to replace the charger) even then the engine is built around having a charger on it.

Idk but rumour has it that in Australia there has already been 8 new units installed into faulty GTIs.....I'm guessing more to come?

[pologti18t]

VW's oil consumption limit reported on the user manual is 1liter every 2000Kms, crazy! I don't want to have a car that in the future could have this oil consumption and no warranty to cover the expenses: if VW is a serious brand should recall ALL the GTI produced and replace the engine with the new one, once they found a definitive solution...

And all the Fabis RS, Cupra R, A1, VWs/Skoda/Audi etc with the 118TSI engine.
It's not going to happen.

There are other makes that think 1L/2000km is quite normal as well.

[Diesel_vert]

They didn't find the solution yet: the pic is a clear example, because is a replaced engine and hs the same problems...
They are trying also by only replacing pistons and piston rings, without good results...

My concernings are that some guys found high oil consumption only after a certain milleage, so what happen if the warranty has already expired?? I don't want to use my money!!
VW's oil consumption limit reported on the user manual is 1liter every 2000Kms, crazy! I don't want to have a car that in the future could have this oil consumption and no warranty to cover the expenses: if VW is a serious brand should recall ALL the GTI produced and replace the engine with the new one, once they found a definitive solution...

Sorry to say, but simply put, it makes more financial sense not to announce a recall and only fix the issue as they appear on a case-by-case basis.

Unless it's related to safety, and any potential fine issued by the government regulator exceeds internal warranty costs.

Not defending VW, but that's the way the system works.

[kawabanga]

Recalling all the Polo GTIs on the market now would destroy the production line, they would need to stop production for re-designing of the vehicles engine bore, powertrain, turbo (whether it would be single or twin to replace the charger) even then the engine is built around having a charger on it.

I think that when they will find a solution will be inserted in the production lines... This could mean a new engine or new piston rings, I don't know, but a recall for all the GTIs on the market using those new components should only be the right and minimal move from a serious brand like VW...

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Sorry to say, but simply put, it makes more financial sense not to announce a recall and only fix the issue as they appear on a case-by-case basis.

I agree, but they don't have to use time limits referred to warranty: if my GTI will show the problem in two years, at that time the warranty will be expired, what I have to do? Replace the engine with my money...? No, thanks...

[pologti18t]

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I agree, but they don't have to use time limits referred to warranty: if my GTI will show the problem in two years, at that time the warranty will be expired, what I have to do? Replace the engine with my money...? No, thanks...

But, the problem, if it exists, is there from new. It doesn't just appear 3 yrs later.
If the problem is reported DURING the warranty period then the manufacturer is obliged to fix it even after the warranty period.

[kawabanga]

But, the problem, if it exists, is there from new. It doesn't just appear 3 yrs later.

In Italy we have a lot of cases (GTI, Ibiza and Fabia) where the problem came up after 10.000 or 15.000 Kms, till then the oil consumption was absolutely ok, that's why I'm so concerned...

[nugget1312]

I'm off for an oil consumption test on my May 2011 Build GTI. Ive done 6000kms and used over 3 litres of oil.Not happy. My old Mazda SP23 didn't use 3 litres in 60,000km's!

[vale46]

Dad's polo had an oil consumption test and it had used 750ml in 1000kms. Further investigation by Volkswagen determined that position rings need replacing so out comes the motor!

[Acko1991]

Basically getting oil past the piston rings. To be fair though.....The car would either be blowing black smoke or white smoke if it was burning that much oil.

[vale46]

Well this is what Volkswagen have determined after having the car for a day and doing their own tests so I'll back them in. Pretty sure they would have done anything to avoid changing the rings if they weren't sure.

[nugget1312]

Hi all
I have been told by the service manager that they wont do an oil consumption test before 10000kms.

Any thoughts on the reply he gave me below.........

"Volkswagen advise that the engine is still running in until approx 10000kms and some oil consumption, given the grade of oil used in the engine in the factory, is not unusual and to be expected. If oil consumption of greater than .5 ltr per 1000 kms is experienced post 10000kms an oil consumption test can be conducted. We could start an oil consumption test (drain and refill the engine oil) however this would obviously drain the factory engine oil which is not recommended."

Any advice from those who have had similar experiences would be appreciated.

[gavs]

Official line from VW was that the running in period where the engine is expected to burn more oil than normal is the first 5000kms.

And by "drain and refill engine" he is refering to the oil that has probably been used to top up because if you have been topping up enough to need a consumption test, fair chance there's not much of the original, factory oil left....

I would call into another dealership and get their thoughts on the matter.

[Karly101]

Hi all
I have been told by the service manager that they wont do an oil consumption test before 10000kms.

Any thoughts on the reply he gave me below.........

"Volkswagen advise that the engine is still running in until approx 10000kms and some oil consumption, given the grade of oil used in the engine in the factory, is not unusual and to be expected. If oil consumption of greater than .5 ltr per 1000 kms is experienced post 10000kms an oil consumption test can be conducted. We could start an oil consumption test (drain and refill the engine oil) however this would obviously drain the factory engine oil which is not recommended."

Any advice from those who have had similar experiences would be appreciated.

I can tell you that mine was started at 8,000km and it was going through heaps of oil, and at the rate you have quoted I doubt you have much factory oil left so I would request one to be done sooner. At that rate I can't see it suddenly becoming better now its at 6,000km.