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  • Tyre rotation and TPMS?

    I'm about to rotate the tyres on my B6 Passat. A mechanic told me I might have to use VCDS to tell the tyre pressure monitoring system that the wheels are now in different positions. I wouldn't have thought this is necessary?

    Does anyone know?
    2007 Passat B6 3.2 litre V6 4Motion | Granite Grey | standard 17" Solitude wheels | tow bar
    Mods: R36 steering wheel | HP DQ250 DSG tune | HPA Haldex performance controller | Koni sports yellow shocks | Eibach springs | H&R sway bars | Whiteline ALK | Kufatec E-MFA add on | Garage door button | Warning triangle retrofit | Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003s

  • #2
    Originally posted by 3C4M Guy View Post
    I'm about to rotate the tyres on my B6 Passat. A mechanic told me I might have to use VCDS to tell the tyre pressure monitoring system that the wheels are now in different positions. I wouldn't have thought this is necessary?

    Does anyone know?
    The tpms sensors are not separately identified.
    The tpms receiver must have some way of differentiating based on timing of the signals along with wheel speeds.
    I swapped my sensors for newer B7 sensors and direct tpms module (shows individual pressures per tyre) and there was no calibration or identification required.

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    • #3
      I've rotated my tyres without any issues. I'll let you know which tyre it identifies next time I get a flat.

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      • #4
        There a sensor in each wheel arch to read the pressure sensor data.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Passat R36 View Post
          There a sensor in each wheel arch to read the pressure sensor data.
          The sensor is inside the tyre, part of the valve stem.
          The receiver in B6 Passat is in the CCM module which is mounted behind the glovebox.

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          • #6
            Maybe I should call the sensor in the wheel arch "antenna", whatever, that's what I meant.
            I have a PDF doc in my computer explains how VW TPMS works. I'd love to upload once I am on the computer.

            A quick google search can show the similar info, please read link below:
            Volkswagen Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Indirect and Direct | my-gti.com

            "VW along with most other manufacturers fit antenna’s in the wheel arches which serves two purposes, the transmitters can have lower power output which means longer battery life/lighter weight and moving wheels around doesn’t require reconfiguration of the sytem."
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            • #7
              Thanks that clears it up.
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              • #8
                And thanks to everyone for your input. I'll happily rotate the wheels today without worrying about the TPMS.
                2007 Passat B6 3.2 litre V6 4Motion | Granite Grey | standard 17" Solitude wheels | tow bar
                Mods: R36 steering wheel | HP DQ250 DSG tune | HPA Haldex performance controller | Koni sports yellow shocks | Eibach springs | H&R sway bars | Whiteline ALK | Kufatec E-MFA add on | Garage door button | Warning triangle retrofit | Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003s

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                • #9
                  Thought the ones NOT with wheel sensors work with the ABS and read the difference in revs from the others when it gets a flat and if so throws up a warning. Mine hasnt got the flash one and Manual says thats how it works. Had to recalibrate when I put the unused spare on the front right
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
                    Thought the ones NOT with wheel sensors work with the ABS and read the difference in revs from the others when it gets a flat and if so throws up a warning. Mine hasnt got the flash one and Manual says thats how it works. Had to recalibrate when I put the unused spare on the front right
                    B6 and B7 high use direct tyre monitoring, not the indirect method via abs like in the Golf etc
                    Last edited by kamold; 12-05-2018, 05:27 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kamold View Post
                      B6 and B7 high use direct tyre monitoring, not the indirect method via abs like in the Golf etc
                      According to my manual and the buttons in the car I have tyre pressure monitoring display which checks the cicumference of the tyre via ABS and alerts to any discrepancy Has to be reset when changing tyres
                      Havent had a puncture but got a warning when i put the spare on as it was 3mm less worn
                      Last edited by Guest001; 13-05-2018, 07:22 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
                        According to my manual and the buttons in the car I have tyre pressure monitoring display which checks the cicumference of the tyre via ABS and alerts to any discrepancy Has to be reset when changing tyres
                        Havent had a ucture but got a warning when i put the spare on as it was 3mm less worn
                        That's tpms low (indirect).
                        B6 only had direct tpms. I have retrofitted the B7 tpms high 2hich shows individual tyre pressure in the MFD.

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                        2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kamold View Post
                          That's tpms low (indirect).
                          B6 only had direct tpms. I have retrofitted the B7 tpms high 2hich shows individual tyre pressure in the MFD.

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