DSG performance - Need a Physio?

[terra australis]

Well, I dropped mine off at the garage for its 15,000km service this morning (only at 16,500-odd, blame Christmas travel, shutdowns and backlog).. told them about the jerking, and got them to drop me at a railway station.. lo and behold, it was as smooth as silk when the mechanic was driving it.. no word yet on if they've found anything, but I guess I'll find out tonight when I collect it.

I've also asked them to check the air-con, it seemed to struggle with Melbourne's heat yesterday quite a bit..

Be persistant if you feel you have a similar issue. We complained about the DSG issue at our 15k service but nothing was indicated on diagnostics and they couldnt replicate it in the test drive. Raised the same issue again at 30k service nothing showed up on diagnostics but on the test drive they agreed with us.

Just gotta say that the dealer has been brillant in with the issue couldnt be more happier with the service that we are getting.

[3Putt]

Clunks Into 5th

May be a thread drift, but my DSG clunks into 5th - clunk coming from the rear.

The clunk is just subtle, and only happens if i change up at around 60-7-km/hr.

Is anyone worried about the longevity / long term viability of this 'new' technology?

Can anyone with a high km DSG comment on their experience with their drivetrain? Might be interesting to see who has the highest km DSG in the land!

BTW, i think i will start a new thread...

[passatpout]

What's annoying me is the randomness of how it jerks, and the comments I get from the expecting one beside me. As much as the mechanic managed to drive it smoothly, he only had to do two standing starts, and one of those was downhill.

With me, it doesn't seem to matter if I go straight from brake to throttle, or brake-pause 2 seconds-throttle, light throttle or heavy throttle, auto-hold on or off.. sometimes it is smooth, sometimes it's a neck-snapper, with a good solid jolt coming through the car (I can only imagine what the shock load is doing to the drivetrain, suspension, etc).

Anyhow, I picked it up from the service, they said they've updated the software on it, but I didn't get much of a chance to test it last night, only that a couple of starts were smooth, and a couple were rough. The comment the dealer made was that the gearbox gets serviced at 60,000km - interesting they're making that comment now, when it's only done 16,500-odd km..

One thought that's occurred to me - has anyone else noticed if it's worse when shifting from reverse to drive (or vice versa)?

A/C was OK too in their opinion..

[Ralph]

DSG Reverse

I have a question on DSG more on when the reverse gear is engaged. Apologies that it may be a bit off current topic thread. When I reverse the car uphill I really need to apply revs for it to move. From my days driving a manual, it very much has the same feel as when a clutch is not fully let up or when the clutch is slipping. At speed, it's not noticeable. Unfortunately my driveway doesn't allow me to reverse at speed, and this is where it happens. I've tried it with Auto Hold on and off with mixed success. I'm concerned I may be doing some damage to the clutch plates plus with the revs so high, sometimes the gear engages better and you build up quite some speed quickly. Not good in our driveway.

Any thoughts or similar experiences?

Ralph.
R36 MY08 Silver Wagon

[3Putt]

Mine does the same thing on steep reverses - prob just behavior that we have to live with. It seems to rev a little to high and not let the clutch out enough.

Those hill starts are tricky though (just ask my wife), and it is just a machine afterall. All up, i think it does a great job.

Once again, its DSG for best technology to come in car since tubocharging!

[gead]

interesting mod available in the states.....

Stage 1 – 4750RPM launch control with disabled kick down in manual mode
NOTE: ANY Car which does not have factory launch control will now have it engaged!

Putting the driver back in control, the DSG will react as a true manual gearbox allowing better control and feel in mid corner entry and exit. With the higher launch control, the reaction off the line will radically improve as the 3.2 will launch within its TQ band.

Stage 2 – Stage 1 + shortened shift response, 7150RPM redline

With all the advantages of Stage 1, the stage 2 expands the control of the driver by shortening the reaction time of each shift upwards of 60%. With the redline bumped, no longer will the gearbox shifts begin its shift at 6500RPM. Breathing into the red, the motor’s power band will be fully unleashed.

Stage 3R – Stage 2 + higher TQ limit ,clutch engagement optimization, “D” mode reprogrammed for a sportier street feel

A MUST if you have 400hp +Intended for modified FI applications, we have revamped the clutch engagement curve to allow better grip with the OEM clutches or our aftermarket upgraded versions. The TQ limits that the DSG will accept have been increased. The D mode remaps the shift point for round town driving. No longer will the DSG shift through all 6 gears under 35MPH. With heavy power modes, the resulting kick downs are very abusive on the gearbox and erode the initial impact of the power band when looking to overtake.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4158902&page=1

[terra australis]

Well car is in at VW today and they are replacing the mechtronics. So I guess that is the fix it for the DSG.

[jmj]

Good Luck!

Good luck Terra... eagerly awaiting the results of your first test drive.

[rotelman]

Hey Guys,

Only got my Passat last Friday. 125TDi DSG, MY09. The DSG is the best Auto I have ever driven. Can't really fault it in any way. Hope it stays this way!
Just a shame the Auto Hold function has to be specifically selected every time you put it in drive. I love the Auto hold and would like it to automatically engage all the time.

[tryingavw]

Hey Guys,

Only got my Passat last Friday. 125TDi DSG, MY09. The DSG is the best Auto I have ever driven. Can't really fault it in any way. Hope it stays this way!
Just a shame the Auto Hold function has to be specifically selected every time you put it in drive. I love the Auto hold and would like it to automatically engage all the time.

yes also the position of the button - its is obscured by the gear stick. if we had LH drive cars it would be in the perfect position.

the park assist button is also on that side which is a pain.

[drbass]

... just VW being too lazy to reconfigure the layout for the RHD market ... .

When I first got my car I loved the Auto Hold function, too, but now I use it only occasionally.

On topic: After one year, the DSG seems to be performing with mixed results. Some days it's "smooth as", on other days I'm tempted to get out and find the pouch it's that bouncy. Will raise it at the 30k service.

Mind you, this applies to take-off only. Once moving it's the best way to shift gears, hands-down - incredibly smooth and seamless. Only thing to remember is not to lift off the accelerator.

Seeya,
Michael

[richdave]

Hey terra australis... back from mexico so keen to know how the replacement went before I chase my dealer for same..

[richdave]

... just VW being too lazy to reconfigure the layout for the RHD market ... .

yeah a bit of a disappointment IMO

[tinto]

interesting mod available in the states.....

Stage 1 – 4750RPM launch control with disabled kick down in manual mode
NOTE: ANY Car which does not have factory launch control will now have it engaged!

At 4750, you would just sit and fry the front tyres, LC or not!
Probably a bit better in an R32

[3Putt]

Or in my car!

Been looking for a mod that 'enables' launch control for 2 years now.

This looks to be it, but you have to send your mechatronics unit to the US! Ouch!

They did let me know via email that a swap can be arranged so my car has no down time.

Maybe a group buy??? Any takers???