DSG performance - Need a Physio?

[nting]

passatpout, I'd be telling them how rubbish it is (car problem and their service) and basically how all your friends have no faith in VW anymore. They keep asking you about the car and if it's been fixed yet. I know all my mates would be quizzing me since none of them have VWs yet. It is ruining their name and brand so they need to step up to the plate and fix it if they want to keep any kind of loyalty. This is a publicity issue not a warranty issue! Speak to the dealer principal if you need to.

[tryingavw]

passatpout, I'd be telling them how rubbish it is (car problem and their service) and basically how all your friends have no faith in VW anymore. They keep asking you about the car and if it's been fixed yet. I know all my mates would be quizzing me since none of them have VWs yet. It is ruining their name and brand so they need to step up to the plate and fix it if they want to keep any kind of loyalty. This is a publicity issue not a warranty issue! Speak to the dealer principal if you need to.

wonder how they got in the top 10 in the uk for customer satisfaction then?

meanwhile weve had no issues at all since delivery 6 weeks ago.

[gregozedobe]

Also noticed that ....., and that sometimes the throttle is misbehaving (idle at 1100-1200rpm, instead of 750-odd, without a/c on, revving out to 3000rpm when changing gear with the throttle backed off, etc).

Could that be the DPF doing its regeneration thing ? (most common after doing a bit of stopp-start traffic driving).

IIRC there have been at least one software revision and quite a few DPF pressure sensors replaced (so far) on the 125Kw TDI PD engine to fix DPF problems (particularly regenerating when it wasn't really needed).

[richdave]

Which dealer were you using for them to be that open and honest about following protocol?

My dealer is Berwin in Ferntree Gully Victoria. Cant praise them enough....

[passatpout]

Right, it's back to Werribee today..

I took the maintenance supervisor for a spin, and the first time we took off it jerked and bunny hopped like crazy, then did a couple of smooth starts (albeit not from a complete stop).

He then said that it felt like it was trying to select first and second at the same time, and mentioned that after going over the car, advice will be sought from Sydney. He then said that a couple of rectification options are (wait for it).. replacement of the control module or replacement of the gearbox.

I'll find out more later today.

[richdave]

Sounds like they are finally going to replace the mechatronics module... Good one

[passatpout]

Well, just had a call from them.. apparently they updated the software again, then discussed further with VGA.. were given another code to access the controls, updated other software/firmware, took it for a drive, and it's all good.. apparently.. I guess I'll find out tonight when I take it for a spin..

[passatpout]

I've picked it up, and taken it for a spin.. about 45km all up, with a mix of suburban and freeway, red lights, roundabouts, etc.

It's much better, but it still gives a distinct jerk occasionally.. not as often, probably about once every 5-7 standing starts.. the rest of the time it's silky smooth.

I also noticed that it did a really snatchy change from 2nd to 3rd, but I didn't really notice the road at the time and could have hit a bump or line on the road right as it changed (although it did feel like a pull in the powertrain, rather than suspension).

So do I take it back and say "Close, but no cigar"?

About to take it back for another spin, tossing up whether to drop it back at the dealer again tomorrow since I'm in that area, or to wait..

[richdave]

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So do I take it back and say "Close, but no cigar"?
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yep, take it back. It should be silky smooth all the time IMO

[passatpout]

yep, take it back. It should be silky smooth all the time IMO

Thanks for that. I'll arrange another time for them to have attempt number.. um.. 6.. I think.. might be 7.. I'm kinda losing count..

And the most annoying thing is that sometimes it is silky smooth, just drives away.. having a play the other night, I noticed that it revs up to about 1100rpm when the throttle is first touched, then feels like it engages with no progression, dropping to about 850-900rpm, then powering away.

[Creniac]

Hi richdave, I'm new to the DSG gearbox as well, I have a Tsi Jetta that tends to want to bolt on me at low revs with a relatively small pump of the right foot, however it also seems very controllable once you get used to it. Excuse my forgetfulness after a few red wines but is your passat a diesel or a petrol engine?

[Creniac]

Dave forget my last question I see yours is an oiler...... did the replacement mechatronics module make a difference???

[richdave]

Dave forget my last question I see yours is an oiler...... did the replacement mechatronics module make a difference???

Yep... the car is now silky smooth all the time... just like it's supposed to be. Very happy now

[PROJET - L]

Interesting to see this thread.
I've had a 103kw Passat Tdi since Feb 07, and it too has jerky changes in comparison to my old Golf Tdi and other Jetta's GT's that I have driven.
Besides this it has a programe which I have dubbed Green mode. Bloody thing changes up up up whenever it can unlike my old TDI Golf.

Other things to go wrong have been lower control arm bushes colapsing, upper strut bushes that groan when turning steering wheel been replaced and happening again.

Injector going into total failure and leaving me stranded. Fuel computer and loom replaced. Rear door trim coming away (whole panel).

Quite simply this is the worst VW I have ever owned. After 05 the accountants got control of the decision making I believe

This is the last VW I will ever own, and I have had 4.

You buy German you expect German quality, if I wanted this sort of ownership experience I would have bought French and expected it.

End of rant.

[tryingavw]

Interesting to see this thread.

End of rant.

sounds bad, can understand your feelings. I am at that point with my bmw 7 series- but it is now 7 years and its just the cost of repairs that kills it.

how long before you started to get problems?

and not forgetting you are still in warranty they should fix all this.

touch wood we have had no issues in 2 months.