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  • Arteon Brake upgrade

    Anybody running this caliper / 380mm disc combo on there Arteon 20in rims?

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  • #2
    A front brake upgrade would be a nice addition.

    A consideration would be if the 20 inch rosario wheels had enough clearance for the big Brembo style calipers. I think wheel spacers are technically illegal in NSW? Someone here should know more about if that is true or not.

    You might find more 370mm kits around, as a lot of the upgraded VW and Audi models run them (including the RS range). As a price guide Cupra AU are charging $4.1k for the factory 4 pot Brembo front upgrade (370mm).

    Very interested to know how you go.
    Last edited by Vedi; 19-04-2022, 11:57 AM.

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    • #3
      I'm quite happy with the stock brake performance (MY18 model), but I don't like the look of the exposed calipers on them... can I piggyback this to ask if anyone knows whether there is a decent - ideally OEM VW R model - set of caliper covers in Blue or Red (or something else other than silver) that suits the stock type with 20" Rosarios?

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      • #4
        Vedi, Still looking at this stage as no one has anything in stock, for the money they want I don't see a 6k benefit but if we get around 370 to 380 kws at the wheels i'll prob need something better to slow th is bad boy down.

        Dairyfloss, I have seen on some Gold R's they have an R calliper not sure if it is 4 or 6 pot though & I think maybe only in America not sure.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vedi View Post
          A front brake upgrade would be a nice addition.

          A consideration would be if the 20 inch rosario wheels had enough clearance for the big Brembo style calipers. I think wheel spacers are technically illegal in NSW? Someone here should know more about if that is true or not.

          You might find more 370mm kits around, as a lot of the upgraded VW and Audi models run them (including the RS range). As a price guide Cupra AU are charging $4.1k for the factory 4 pot Brembo front upgrade (370mm).

          Very interested to know how you go.
          Spacers are illegal in ANY State in AUS unless fitted at the factory (Porsche)maybe
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BO11OS View Post
            Anybody running this caliper / 380mm disc combo on there Arteon 20in rims?

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            The rattling and squealing coming from my aftermarket pads (that I didn't fit) were driving me nuts, so I took my Arteon up the road into Harding Performance this morning - even got to meet Guy Harding!

            They measured the 380mm Racingline Stage 3 template against my 20" Rosarios wheel and so far it's looking promising. The funny thing is that the 345mm Stage 2 template (that I originally went in for) didn't fit - based on the concave shape of the wheel "spokes". The wheels have better caliper clearance further from the hub.

            It's booked in for next week to try with the real thing. If it works out, I'll be driving out with the 380mm Stage 3 brake kit. Will post results next week.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nermal View Post
              t's booked in for next week to try with the real thing. If it works out, I'll be driving out with the 380mm Stage 3 brake kit. Will post results next week.
              Sounds excellent, really looking forward to seeing some pictures when it's done.

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              • #8
                replied to wrong guy
                Last edited by amunra; 24-06-2022, 11:17 AM. Reason: wrong guy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BO11OS View Post
                  Vedi, Still looking at this stage as no one has anything in stock, for the money they want I don't see a 6k benefit but if we get around 370 to 380 kws at the wheels i'll prob need something better to slow th is bad boy down.

                  Dairyfloss, I have seen on some Gold R's they have an R calliper not sure if it is 4 or 6 pot though & I think maybe only in America not sure.
                  just my personal opinion, golf R oem calipers are underrated they just come with average pads and discs from oem.. but still do a decent job for a certain time then start to fail quickly.

                  consider getting dba 4000 rotors (350 - 450) and dba xtreme xp orange / XP650red pads(think they are the same from my research... same product codes.. same heat threshold specs.. )... going to get a much better result over oem and might be all you need really for 500 - 600 instead of 6k

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by amunra View Post
                    just my personal opinion, golf R oem calipers are underrated they just come with average pads and discs from oem.. but still do a decent job for a certain time then start to fail quickly.

                    consider getting dba 4000 rotors (350 - 450) and dba xtreme xp orange / XP650red pads(think they are the same from my research... same product codes.. same heat threshold specs.. )... going to get a much better result over oem and might be all you need really for 500 - 600 instead of 6k
                    Thanks, the DBA pads/rotors are an interesting option and may be a good temporary plan B if the stage 3 brakes don't fit, though fitment is looking good so far =)

                    I was also looking at ordering some Brembo 345mm (4Pot) Porsche Macan or Audi RS options online, but my long-term plan was to go 380mm Stage 3 eventually anyway. The Golf R (2 pot) calipers were also a consideration, but there wasn't too much of a price difference for the 4pot options - especially given the addition €430 in shipping. Here's the site I was looking at: Vw Arteon Big Brake Kits
                    Last edited by nermal; 24-06-2022, 11:42 AM.
                    2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
                    2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nermal View Post
                      Thanks, the DBA pads/rotors are an interesting option and may be a good temporary plan B if the stage 3 brakes don't fit, though fitment is looking good so far =)

                      I was also looking at ordering some Brembo 345mm (4Pot) Porsche Macan or Audi RS options online, but my long-term plan was to go 380mm Stage 3 eventually anyway. The Golf R (2 pot) calipers were also a consideration, but there wasn't too much of a price difference for the 4pot options - especially given the addition €430 in shipping. Here's the site I was looking at: Vw Arteon Big Brake Kits
                      dont u guys have golf r brakes as standard?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by amunra View Post
                        dont u guys have golf r brakes as standard?
                        I think the rotors are the same, but the Arteon calipers are single piston, where the (new) Golf ones are 2pot - tho I could be wrong

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                        2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nermal View Post
                          I think the rotors are the same, but the Arteon calipers are single piston, where the (new) Golf ones are 2pot - tho I could be wrong

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                          interesting. thought it was the same gear as the golf r... thats a shame for arteon drivers if VW are cheaping out a bit.

                          audi TTS brakes are like golf r brakes but lighter...... if u can find them..

                          otherwise i think 2nd hand 4pots (porsche audi) off a wreck are probably the best buy if ur gonna replace the calipers... otherwise just replace the disc and pads like (dba4000 and dba xp) even on a single pot should be good with stage 1 - 3 (depending on what ur doing regularly).

                          why ur considering stage 3 brake kit on a stage 1 car..... only if ur going to do laps and laps at a circuit and regularly... u might regret ur purchase very quickly.



                          P.S after doing some reading online they are the same brake calipers as golf r.. open to being corrected if someone can prove that.
                          Last edited by amunra; 24-06-2022, 12:50 PM. Reason: P.S

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by amunra View Post
                            why ur considering stage 3 brake kit on a stage 1 car..... only if ur going to do laps and laps at a circuit and regularly... u might regret ur purchase very quickly.
                            Stage 2 kit is currently on order (arriving from UK in a few months) and plan to take it to stage 3 sometime after that.

                            Originally posted by amunra View Post
                            P.S after doing some reading online they are the same brake calipers as golf r.. open to being corrected if someone can prove that.
                            Good to know, thanks for the clarification.
                            2018 Arteon R-Line - Black, Sunroof, Dynaudio, 20" Wheels, RacingLine: Stage 2 ECU+DSG|380mm BBK|Intercooler+Hoses|Oil Cooler|R600 Intake|Adjustable Front Droplinks|Dogbone Insert|Subframe Brace+Alignment Kit|Propshaft Alignment Kit, Milltek: Zirotec Downpipe, Harding: Front+Rear Sway Bars|Rear Droplinks, Other: OSRAM Dynamic Indicators, EvcX Throttle Controller, 034 (RED) Coil Packs, Various Carbon Bits
                            2022 Tiguan Allspace R-Line, Grey - Sunroof, Harmon Kardon

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nermal View Post
                              Stage 2 kit is currently on order (arriving from UK in a few months) and plan to take it to stage 3 sometime after that.



                              Good to know, thanks for the clarification.
                              discs and pads will be more than fine for whatever your going to be using for. (unless you a professional circuit driver .. specifically driving ur arteon).. .. worst case u eat a bit more pad on spirited driving and have to replace a little bit sooner.. pretty economical for a level performance probably more than u need...... aslong as they dont fall apart on u at high temps / load which very well can happen with the OEM then you are getting a benefit.

                              if ur getting stage 2 calipers then u most definately dont need stage 3 calipers ..

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