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  • Tiguan MY18 Speaker Upgrade

    Hi Guys,
    I just ordered our MY18 140TDI Rline with Driver Assist (White). Can't wait.

    The wife and I took another test drive the other day and whilst we absolutely love the car and can't wait for it to arrive, I couldn't help but feel underwhelmed by the quality sound coming from the speakers. I played with the 3 band equaliser and fader/balance to get it sounding better but no joy.

    We're upgrading from a MY12 Passat Highline and that had a better sound.

    I heard that in the USA, VW will be rolling out Fender Speakers (Basically Panasonic , branded as Fender 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan SUV to Feature Fender(R) Premium Audio System Powered by Panasonic)

    I'm not after heavy bass (so not interested in adding a subwoofer), just more warmth and clarity.

    Looking to see if anyone else here has a similar view and if they've done any mods to the speakers.

    Cheers
    MYO6 Sub Liberty GT
    MY03 MK4 Golf + Sunroof (Blue) (Wifes)
    MY12 Passat Wagon 125TDi Highline + DA + Tow Kit (Blue)
    JUST RECEIVED - MY18 Tiguan 140TDI R Line + DA + Tow Kit (White)

  • #2
    Originally posted by tomskiboy View Post
    Hi Guys,
    I just ordered our MY18 140TDI Rline with Driver Assist (White). Can't wait.

    The wife and I took another test drive the other day and whilst we absolutely love the car and can't wait for it to arrive, I couldn't help but feel underwhelmed by the quality sound coming from the speakers. I played with the 3 band equaliser and fader/balance to get it sounding better but no joy.

    We're upgrading from a MY12 Passat Highline and that had a better sound.

    I heard that in the USA, VW will be rolling out Fender Speakers (Basically Panasonic , branded as Fender 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan SUV to Feature Fender(R) Premium Audio System Powered by Panasonic)

    I'm not after heavy bass (so not interested in adding a subwoofer), just more warmth and clarity.

    Looking to see if anyone else here has a similar view and if they've done any mods to the speakers.

    Cheers

    Is there no dynaudio option you can spec in the car? it will be bundled with other stuff but is still a good option to tick better than stuffing around after pickup

    The dynaudio is a good system will keep most people very happy
    2017 Golf Alltrack 135tdi All options
    19 inch Brescia Wheels Golf R brakes front and rear
    Calipers painted Candy apple gold
    New rear sway bar and linkages

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    • #3
      unfortunately in Australia we don't have that option
      MYO6 Sub Liberty GT
      MY03 MK4 Golf + Sunroof (Blue) (Wifes)
      MY12 Passat Wagon 125TDi Highline + DA + Tow Kit (Blue)
      JUST RECEIVED - MY18 Tiguan 140TDI R Line + DA + Tow Kit (White)

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      • #4
        I originally thought the same but after a few days of playing the sound became much better .It's almost as if the speakers are bedding in!!!
        As i said in my review of my R Line i think the sound is decent but nowhere near audiophile quality .

        I would suggest to give it a bit of playing time and then go for some higher quality speakers if you still not happy with it.


        Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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        • #5
          Originally posted by popeye View Post
          I originally thought the same but after a few days of playing the sound became much better .It's almost as if the speakers are bedding in!!!
          As i said in my review of my R Line i think the sound is decent but nowhere near audiophile quality .

          I would suggest to give it a bit of playing time and then go for some higher quality speakers if you still not happy with it.


          Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
          I can't comment specifically on the current Tiguan speakers as I know nothing about them.
          I can only offer some reflections of my experience over the past few years.
          In general I feel the weakest link is the internal amp in the oem head units. They are 4x25w which is somewhat under powered.
          My experience has been:
          Mk6 Golf stock speakers upgraded head unit to rns510, added a Blaupunkt 4x55w amp huge improvement no need to upgrade speakers unless you wanted to push them really hard with volume levels but could do with a sub.

          Octavia MK2 stock speakers factory fitted rns510 added the same Blaupunkt 4x55w amp and a pioneer active sub stock speakers still up to task.

          B6 Passat had a factory 250w amp and 10 speakers made by Blaupunkt. Was a perfectly acceptable system connected to the rns510 but I like upgrading so I fitted the 600w dynaudio system.
          Fitted the amp first and the difference was night and day to the 250w 'VW sound system' amp but was too much for the speakers. They would complain with loud 'blarp!' noises over about 60% volume but still the sound staging and clarity was hugely improved.
          Once I had replaced all 10 speakers with their dynaudio counterparts I was able to push the volume levels without complaint but the sound difference was very incremental.


          So in conclusion my feeling is you are best served by first installing an amp to drive the stock speakers. Stop there and see if that meets your requirements. If it doesn't then upgrade the speakers. But installing new speakers with the internal amp will leave you underwhelmed.

          Just my 2c
          2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
          2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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          • #6
            The speakers in the tig are much better than what i have in my jetta
            And much better than the 2014 touareg i had
            Ive never had dynaudio so i cant compare
            But its definately not the worst sound system ive seen

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            • #7
              Thanks, Guys,
              I was just expecting something a little better considering how much extra premium technology the Tig has.

              I noticed that there are only a few places that offer Dynaudio speaker upgrades for the Tig around Sydney. Still annoyed at VAG for not offering use Aussies this option.
              MYO6 Sub Liberty GT
              MY03 MK4 Golf + Sunroof (Blue) (Wifes)
              MY12 Passat Wagon 125TDi Highline + DA + Tow Kit (Blue)
              JUST RECEIVED - MY18 Tiguan 140TDI R Line + DA + Tow Kit (White)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tomskiboy View Post
                I noticed that there are only a few places that offer Dynaudio speaker upgrades for the Tig around Sydney. Still annoyed at VAG for not offering use Aussies this option.
                Keen on the retro upgrade path, as I’ve enjoyed the B&O setup in the S3, and didn’t try cranking the Tig music box when I was in it. Do you have any names, or prices for possible upgrade options?
                MY18 GOLF 110TSI I HIGHLINE I Indium I Panoramic Sunroof I DAP I IP
                MY18 TIGUAN 162TSI I R-LINE I Ruby I DAP I IP

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tomskiboy View Post
                  Hi Guys,
                  I just ordered our MY18 140TDI Rline with Driver Assist (White). Can't wait.

                  The wife and I took another test drive the other day and whilst we absolutely love the car and can't wait for it to arrive, I couldn't help but feel underwhelmed by the quality sound coming from the speakers. I played with the 3 band equaliser and fader/balance to get it sounding better but no joy.

                  We're upgrading from a MY12 Passat Highline and that had a better sound.

                  I heard that in the USA, VW will be rolling out Fender Speakers (Basically Panasonic , branded as Fender 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan SUV to Feature Fender(R) Premium Audio System Powered by Panasonic)

                  I'm not after heavy bass (so not interested in adding a subwoofer), just more warmth and clarity.

                  Looking to see if anyone else here has a similar view and if they've done any mods to the speakers.

                  Cheers
                  Se my post here.....Sound System Upgrade
                  2017 Tiguan R Line 162TSI, DAP, White. Upgraded speakers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kamold View Post
                    I can't comment specifically on the current Tiguan speakers as I know nothing about them.
                    I can only offer some reflections of my experience over the past few years.
                    In general I feel the weakest link is the internal amp in the oem head units. They are 4x25w which is somewhat under powered.
                    My experience has been:
                    Mk6 Golf stock speakers upgraded head unit to rns510, added a Blaupunkt 4x55w amp huge improvement no need to upgrade speakers unless you wanted to push them really hard with volume levels but could do with a sub.

                    Octavia MK2 stock speakers factory fitted rns510 added the same Blaupunkt 4x55w amp and a pioneer active sub stock speakers still up to task.

                    B6 Passat had a factory 250w amp and 10 speakers made by Blaupunkt. Was a perfectly acceptable system connected to the rns510 but I like upgrading so I fitted the 600w dynaudio system.
                    Fitted the amp first and the difference was night and day to the 250w 'VW sound system' amp but was too much for the speakers. They would complain with loud 'blarp!' noises over about 60% volume but still the sound staging and clarity was hugely improved.
                    Once I had replaced all 10 speakers with their dynaudio counterparts I was able to push the volume levels without complaint but the sound difference was very incremental.


                    So in conclusion my feeling is you are best served by first installing an amp to drive the stock speakers. Stop there and see if that meets your requirements. If it doesn't then upgrade the speakers. But installing new speakers with the internal amp will leave you underwhelmed.

                    Just my 2c
                    Hi Kamold, where do they install the amp? Have you got any pictures? I prefer this option over changing the speakers. In my past experiences, the door trims have never seemed to gone back on properly after install.

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                    • #11
                      I install the amps under the passenger seat, because that's where the factory installed ones go.
                      The cables go under the carpet up to behind the head unit.
                      I can take a photo of the one in my wife's Octavia tonight.
                      2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
                      2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                      • #12
                        Hi Guys,
                        I just picked the car up yesterday and spent half the day doing happy (literally) laps around the suburb getting familiar with the car and features.

                        Regarding sound. I played quite a few songs from SD card (using high bitrate) and the Mids and Highs are very clear (although speaker positioning is quite low compared to Passat). Now the Low's were a bit of a letdown. Anything above half way on the graphic equaliser results in a fluter (fart) noise coming from the speaker. This is a non-issue for 80% of the music I listen to.

                        I love my music and would consider myself a wanna-be audiophile. From my experience this fluter\fart type noise in the bass is typical of "cheap" paper cone speakers.

                        I'm going to leave the car as is for a couple of months to see how the speakers bed in. BUT if it's not improving I'll try to order the Dynaudio spare parts or equivalent.

                        Lifestyle Store in Parramatta (Western Sydney) does Dynaudio so I'll probably get them to do the install for me.

                        Still, Very Disappointed with VW Australia for not giving us Aussies Dynaudio.. Actually I'm pretty pissed.

                        Apart from that, I love the new Tig. Somethings I find better in the Passat like the separate leaver for CC and positioning of Volum +/- buttons. But Apart from that, It's awesome.
                        MYO6 Sub Liberty GT
                        MY03 MK4 Golf + Sunroof (Blue) (Wifes)
                        MY12 Passat Wagon 125TDi Highline + DA + Tow Kit (Blue)
                        JUST RECEIVED - MY18 Tiguan 140TDI R Line + DA + Tow Kit (White)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tomskiboy View Post
                          Hi Guys,
                          I just picked the car up yesterday and spent half the day doing happy (literally) laps around the suburb getting familiar with the car and features.

                          Regarding sound. I played quite a few songs from SD card (using high bitrate) and the Mids and Highs are very clear (although speaker positioning is quite low compared to Passat). Now the Low's were a bit of a letdown. Anything above half way on the graphic equaliser results in a fluter (fart) noise coming from the speaker. This is a non-issue for 80% of the music I listen to.

                          I love my music and would consider myself a wanna-be audiophile. From my experience this fluter\fart type noise in the bass is typical of "cheap" paper cone speakers.

                          I'm going to leave the car as is for a couple of months to see how the speakers bed in. BUT if it's not improving I'll try to order the Dynaudio spare parts or equivalent.

                          Lifestyle Store in Parramatta (Western Sydney) does Dynaudio so I'll probably get them to do the install for me.

                          Still, Very Disappointed with VW Australia for not giving us Aussies Dynaudio.. Actually I'm pretty pissed.

                          Apart from that, I love the new Tig. Somethings I find better in the Passat like the separate leaver for CC and positioning of Volum +/- buttons. But Apart from that, It's awesome.
                          Any ideas how much a set of Dynaudio costs?

                          Neal

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zzc2010 View Post
                            Any ideas how much a set of Dynaudio costs?

                            Neal

                            Sorry, I don't know how much, I'll wait till I've made my mind up before getting a quote. But based on other peoples experience with other VW models. I would expect something around $1500 - $2500 depending on how far you go with the upgrade.

                            Below is a link to their website for Dynaudio
                            6.5" Speakers | Rockford Fosgate | Pioneer | Kenwood | German Maestro | Hertz | Focal | Clarion

                            Hope that helps.

                            Tom
                            MYO6 Sub Liberty GT
                            MY03 MK4 Golf + Sunroof (Blue) (Wifes)
                            MY12 Passat Wagon 125TDi Highline + DA + Tow Kit (Blue)
                            JUST RECEIVED - MY18 Tiguan 140TDI R Line + DA + Tow Kit (White)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tomskiboy View Post
                              Hi Guys,

                              Regarding sound. I played quite a few songs from SD card (using high bitrate) and the Mids and Highs are very clear (although speaker positioning is quite low compared to Passat).
                              Have you tried a FLAC or WAV file to see if there is any difference? I don't bother with MP3's any longer as cards have plenty of space and are pretty cheap to buy now, just stay away from Ebay!

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