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A guide to enable EU specific features for AU Spec Tiguans

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  • A guide to enable EU specific features for AU Spec Tiguans

    Hi all, thought I would like to share some of my findings with you all regarding the possibilities of enabling EU features on our Aussie Tiguans. This is a thread dedicated to enabling EU specific features.

    Info below is catered to MY17 Tiguans, as adaptations and coding have changed between model years.

    WARNING/DISCLAIMER: Coding can be very dangerous and if done incorrectly, it can cause damage to your vehicle and void your warranty. If you are worried about that prospect, either don't code or get someone that is experienced to code it for you. Always backup before making changes. I cannot be held accountable for any damage incurred.

    I just realized that I made all changes (naughty) in one go, so I will have dig my history to see which changes I made. Videos demonstrating features should be up fairly soon.

    Please take a look at this thread regularly for updates.


    Adaptive Lane Guidance
    Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. Works the same as shown in Youtube videos. I have tried this with my Tiguan.

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    Emergency Assist/Traffic Jam Assist
    A high possibility that it will work, given that Adaptive Lane Guidance can be/is enabled. Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven.

    UPDATE: It can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. However, Module 44 - Steering Assist Module, varies between vehicles that are spec'd with Traffic Jam Assist/ Emergency Assist, and those that doesn't.

    Tiguans that are "spec'd" for TJA and Emergency Assist have 7 bytes in Module 44.
    Tiguans that are not "spec'd" for TJA and Emergency Assist only have 2 bytes in Module 44.

    I still need more scans from other people, especially those that have TJA, to confirm my findings.

    DANGER! REQUIRES EXTENSIVE BYTE BY BYTE, BIT BY BIT INDIVIDUALIZED CODING!
    Long Coding required for Modules 09, 13, 17, 44, 5F, A5

    Currently experimenting with coding ATM.


    Pedestrian Assist
    I don't think this is possible, due to the use of a different ACC sensor. (We don't have Continential ACC Sensors in Australian Spec Tiguans). Rejects coding in A5 module.

    UPDATE: It may be possible, as we use the same Continental ACC Sensors as EU Spec Tiguans.


    By enabling the Pedestrian Assist in Module 13, we may be able to allow A5 to accept coding as well. It might either the CAN Gateway or the differing software versions that is rejecting the coding in Module A5.

    Teaser Photo (I enabled settings in menu, it is a gimmick)

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    TMC Traffic
    Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. Works perfectly. I have tried this with my Tiguan.

    Code:
    [FONT=verdana]Information Control Unit
    Fee-based traffic information (TMC)
    Change value from 65535 to 1024Coding:
    
    
    Ensure that Traffic and RDS is enabled in radio.

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    Dynamic Road Sign Display
    Limited functionality. The "Dynamic" portion of the road sign display does not work, as it cannot fusion the data provided by the GPS. Road Sign Recognition works however, and signs detected by the camera shows up in the left corner of the Discover Head Unit and also the MFD/AID. If you enable this, the speed limit shown on the navigation disappears.

    I have tried this with my Tiguan. Most of the time it detects speed signs, but it can still have trouble detecting "School Zone" speed signs. It only shows the limit if it sees a speed sign. Depending on your preference, you may not like to enable this option,

    Coding:

    Code:
    1. Module 5F 
                 Adaptations
                                Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 traffic_sign_recognition_0x21 
                                          Set to Active
                                Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu menu_display_road_sign_identification 
                                          Set to Enabled
    
    Then go to Coding
            Long Coding
                         Byte 24, activate Bit 6
     
    2. Module A5
    
    Then go to Coding
            Long Coding
                        Byte 16, activate Bit 4 
     
    3. Module 17
    
    Then go to Coding
           Long Coding
                        Byte 5, activate Bit 2
    
    Then you need to disable Road Sign Fusion. 
    
    4. Module A5
                  Adaptation
                            Road sign detection fusion mode
                            Change from Road sign fusion to Road sign detection
    
    If you have HUD in your Tiguan, the following coding will enable speed signs to be shown on it (For NZ and other countries)
    
    Module 82
    Coding
    Long Coding
    
    Byte 0, Activate Bit 0.
    
    Reboot the infotainment system.
    After coding, Dynamic Road Sign limited functionality error will appear every time the car starts, but otherwise does not affect the function of the car.

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    Light Assist
    Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. Works perfectly. I have tried this with my Tiguan.

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    Dynamic Light Assist
    I don't think this is possible with AU Spec Tiguans. We use a different LED headlight that does not have shutters.

    Proactive Occupant Protection
    Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. I have not had the chance to try it yet.

    Flashing Brake Lights
    Can be enabled via VCDS or OBDEleven. Emits flashing brake lights in scenarios where "hard braking" is detected. In theory it should work. but not sure as I have not tried it.


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    Please add some of your findings to this thread as well. I have found some of the information online, adapted it, and then re-tested it with the Tiguan, others I have discovered it myself by comparing coding. I am happy to give due credit. Please PM me if that is the case.

    Credits:

    DV52 - giving me advice and being a cool guy in general
    NZ_GolfR - for trying out HUD settings
    93
    Traffic Sign Recognition
    0%
    24
    Speed Limit on the Navigation System
    0%
    7
    A combination of the two, which VAG doesn't allow in Australia.
    0%
    62

  • #2
    Goood to know this. Thanks heapppp

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    • #3
      Thank you Peanut. This thread will be a regular visiting spot.

      Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
      Ordered: 2017 build date Tiguan 162 TSI Highline with DAP in Tungsten Silver and rear luggage tray. ETA: late April / Early May. I did not have to wait. I took delivery on 11 March 2017.

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      • #4
        Awesome. Great to hear that Adaptive Lane Guidance can be enabled. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have ACC and Adaptive Lane Guidance, then you could pretty much achieve TJA without additional coding, with the caveat that you'd need to resume the ACC after being stopped for 3 seconds. The car would start and stop automatically (under 3 seconds) and steer itself. So the only difference with TJA is that it would resume beyond the 3 second stationary time. Am I missing something?

        2017 Tiguan 162TSI Highline/R-Line
        2017 Audi S3

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gladbach View Post
          Awesome. Great to hear that Adaptive Lane Guidance can be enabled. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have ACC and Adaptive Lane Guidance, then you could pretty much achieve TJA without additional coding, with the caveat that you'd need to resume the ACC after being stopped for 3 seconds. The car would start and stop automatically (under 3 seconds) and steer itself. So the only difference with TJA is that it would resume beyond the 3 second stationary time. Am I missing something?
          Yes you are. Lane Assist only works above speeds of 65km/h. It requires separate coding in order for it to function under 65km/h, and also for the ACC to restart automatically beyond the 3 second grace period. I will hopefully upload a video of both Emergency Assist and Traffic Jam Assist in action if I am successful in my coding.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by peanut View Post
            Yes you are. Lane Assist only works above speeds of 65km/h. It requires separate coding in order for it to function under 65km/h, and also for the ACC to restart automatically beyond the 3 second grace period. I will hopefully upload a video of both Emergency Assist and Traffic Jam Assist in action if I am successful in my coding.
            Ah cool, it was the 65km/h detail that I was missing! Definitely keen to hear how you go with coding for TJA.

            2017 Tiguan 162TSI Highline/R-Line
            2017 Audi S3

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            • #7
              Which instructions did you follow for the Dynamic Road Sign Display and Light Assist as these are 2 thing I am keen to enable.
              Also interested to try the Adaptive Lane Guidance as I didn't think this would work in our cars. Cheers.
              Current Ride: 2019 CUPRA Ateca in Energy Blue with Bucket Seats

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              • #8
                Originally posted by peanut
                Hi all, thought I would like to share some of my findings with you all regarding the possibilities of enabling EU features on our Aussie Tiguans.

                Please add some of your findings to this thread as well.
                As the Golf Mk7 shares the same MQB platform as the 2nd gen Tiguan, this link would be useful:
                MkVII VCDS Tweak - Reference thread


                cheers to DV52 who helped me with a couple of tweaks,
                including disabling engine start/stop.
                Pure White MY17 Tiguan 162TSi R-Line DAP Pano
                Blue Golf MkV TDi Pacific

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VWVY View Post
                  As the Golf Mk7 shares the same MQB platform as the 2nd gen Tiguan, this link would be useful:
                  MkVII VCDS Tweak - Reference thread


                  cheers to DV52 who helped me with a couple of tweaks,
                  including disabling engine start/stop.
                  Only some of the tweaks apply to the MY17 Tiguan, as modules have been updated, and existing coding and adaptions has been altered/removed. I urge caution when applying older and other MQB coding with MY17 Tiguans.

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                  • #10
                    Following your instructions above I have managed to activate the Dynamic Road Sign Display but since it is late I haven't been able to test to make sure it actually works yet. One thing I noticed was that after coding I tried to activate it within the Car Setup menu but it wasn't showing. I switched the car off & back on again and it still wasn't there. I locked the car and went inside to do some more reading up on it and when I went back out to the car the option was then available. Seem the car has to be completely powered down to active. Will test it tomorrow to make sure it is reading the road signs and keen to see if they also show in the HUD.

                    Next to work on is Adaptive Lane Guidance and Light Assist so keen to hear how you activated these ones.

                    Just to let you know my one already has Proactive Occupant Protection enabled (can switch it on and off in the Car Setup menu). Let me know if you want me to check any of the coding already setup in my car for you to compare.
                    Current Ride: 2019 CUPRA Ateca in Energy Blue with Bucket Seats

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by peanut View Post
                      Only some of the tweaks apply to the MY17 Tiguan, as modules have been updated, and existing coding and adaptions has been altered/removed. I urge caution when applying older and other MQB coding with MY17 Tiguans.
                      peanut: caution when doing tweaks is always wise -regardless of which MQB platform vehicle is being modified.

                      I've just been looking through the adaptation maps from VWVY's Tiggy (which he kindly allowed me to take this afternoon - many thanks again Victor). There appear to be many identical adaptation channels between the two models -so I suspect that there will be a degree of congruence with tweas from other MQB vehicles (including the mk7)

                      However, there are also many different adaptation channel descriptors, as you say. Whilst I'm sure that there will be entirely new channels in the newer modules, it appears in lots of cases where the changed names are superficial - so it's not difficult in these cases to "translate" the tweak instructions into Tiggy speak

                      Here's an example: For the mk7, the BCM has a channel name IDE01268-ENG126844-Windshield wiper-Washer_Tipwiping_Variant whereas the Tiggy reports this channel as ENG10610-ENG126844-Front_wiper-Washer_Tipwiping_Variant.

                      I guess my message to would-be VCDS/VCP/OBD11 "tweakers" is certainly proceed with caution, but likewise, don't discount the wealth of established and now-mature instructions that resides on forums for other MQB models (like mk7 Golf). I'm also a fan of the advantage of making errors in the leaning curve - they are by far the very best learning experience!

                      It will be obvious which tweaks won't work because you just won't be able to find the adaptation channels -so you won't be able to proceed. Tweaks that require changes to a module's code string are a bit more problematic and these should be approached with more care. In general if you are using instructions from another model NEVER just rely on instructions like "Change Byte 2, Bit 0" - ALWAYS make sure that you have access to the Long coding helper screen from the other vehicle - and compare this Byte/Bit descriptor with that of the Tiggy

                      And most definitely, BEFORE YOU START making changes, create a complete database of the "virgin" settings in your car - the admaps from VWVY'S Tiggy this morning had well over 5,000 adaptation channels and the ABS module alone had a massive Byte count of 47 bytes - in just this module (incidentally, the ABS module on the MY17 mk7 has exactly the same Byte-count)

                      Don
                      Last edited by DV52; 16-03-2017, 11:51 PM.
                      Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        This thread is fantastic!

                        Can anyone confirm that enabling Adaptive Lane Guidance works as expected, i.e. keeps the car in the centre of the lane, rather than 'bouncing' it off the lane markings (like Active Lane Assist)?

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                        • #13
                          Guys, all of this features you mention I had in standard equipment.

                          - Lane Assist
                          - Light Assist
                          - Front Assist
                          - Emergency Assist
                          - Traffic Jam Assist

                          I paid extra for:

                          - Side Assist Plus
                          - Rear Traffic Alert


                          If I can help you, let me know what data you need.

                          I have limited access to VAS and VCDS, so it can take few days.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bestyjny View Post
                            Guys, all of this features you mention I had in standard equipment.

                            - Lane Assist
                            - Light Assist
                            - Front Assist
                            - Emergency Assist
                            - Traffic Jam Assist

                            I paid extra for:

                            - Side Assist Plus
                            - Rear Traffic Alert


                            If I can help you, let me know what data you need.

                            I have limited access to VAS and VCDS, so it can take few days.
                            The VCDS scan would be very helpful to my efforts! I would really appreciate it if you can upload a copy so that I can compare coding, as I already have several scans from other people.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by peanut View Post
                              The VCDS scan would be very helpful to my efforts!
                              I put some on Ross-Tech forum:

                              2016 Tiguan MQB, 2.0 TSI 180KM CZPA

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