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[Guest001]

It's the drive people on the internet have to point out how wrong someone is that bugs me. IMHO your comment was redundant and unnecessary.

https://xkcd.com/386/

Shane.

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Excuse me I never once said you were wrong. As I have had a fair bit to do with towing and the rules therof I merely pointed out what they were and what you can and cant modify. I was trying to help but seems you took it the wrong way.
Another poster supplied the figure you couldnt find. Not me.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

[shanelord]

Sorry to upset you but was merely pointing out what was known and your options which you have confirmed as being correct.

Has been dicussions on Vanning forums about this for quite a while.

It's the drive people on the internet have to point out how wrong someone is that bugs me. IMHO your comment was redundant and unnecessary.

https://xkcd.com/386/

Shane.

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[Guest001]

Not sure how your "help", helps.

Shane.

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Sorry to upset you but was merely pointing out what was known and your options which you have confirmed as being correct.

Has been dicussions on Vanning forums about this for quite a while.

Plus another poster attached a link with that figure in it

[shanelord]

As was said in reply 24.

Not sure how your "help", helps.

Shane.

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[Guest001]

OK so final confirmation from VW Australia. The Tiguan is rated and will only be rated for a 100KG ball weight.

No word on what they'll do to communicate this to their dealers nor how they'll make this clear to customers.

So towing is off the table unless you want to buy a Bailey lightweight caravan - the only ones (AFAIK) in Australia a Tiguan could tow.

Disappointed.

Shane.

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As was said in reply 24

[shanelord]

OK so final confirmation from VW Australia. The Tiguan is rated and will only be rated for a 100KG ball weight.

No word on what they'll do to communicate this to their dealers nor how they'll make this clear to customers.

So towing is off the table unless you want to buy a Bailey lightweight caravan - the only ones (AFAIK) in Australia a Tiguan could tow.

Disappointed.

Shane.

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[Gladbach]

To be fair to Hillbilly, Volkswagen have done a poor job at providing accurate information about the new Tiguan. When the Tiguans were first available to look at (a few weeks before we were actually able to test drive them) the dealer I went to had no material other than providing me with the latest copy of Volkswagen magazine. They then gave me the Tiguan brochure (the basic one) when I test drove the 132TSI. I had a lot of questions that they were unable to answer and despite not having a detailed brochure, and not being able to answer some of my questions, the dealer was pushing me hard to put in an order citing the waiting time as motivation.

I first got a hold of the detailed brochure through this forum, the dealer didn't have a hard copy to give me, and it didn't go up on the website until a few weeks later. There are still unanswered questions around the 162TSI, which doesn't feature in the detailed brochure (other than a brief mention) and isn't on the website. This is a car that I've ordered 2 months ago, but still don't have a full list of features and specs.

[Lupo]

http://www.volkswagen.com.au/content/medialib/vwd4/au/showroom/tiguan/spec_vwptigspemy17web-tiguan2016spec-/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.file/vwptigspemy17_web-tiguan2016spec-.pdf

Above is the link - page 11 shows the figure in question.

[Guest001]

A link would be good or a scan as the page the brochure says the specs are on gives a 404

Present brochure doesnt give it and it is dated September

[Lupo]

I downloaded my copy mid October and according to the last page it got published in September. So it's not a recent update after your discussion with the corporate team. Maybe the dealer just couldn't find it? I had to point it out to my dealer as well. He only had the brochure with the short list of specifications...

[shanelord]

Hi Shane,
In the detailed Tiguan specification file (page 11) the towbar load limit is listed with 100 kg.
Isn't that what the figure you said doesn't get published? The file is available on their website.
Lupo

Interesting. While I don't have a copy of the one I looked at neither the dealer or I could find it 2 weeks ago.

Shane.

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[Lupo]

Hi Shane,
In the detailed Tiguan specification file (page 11) the towbar load limit is listed with 100 kg.
Isn't that what the figure you said doesn't get published? The file is available on their website.
Lupo

[Guest001]

It's not in the brochure or on the website for the Tiguan.

It's also not common knowledge (The VW Dealership owner is in agreement with me on this - he's working to clarify with VW Corporate).

Regards,
Shane.

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Strange how they publish some and not others. However if buying with the intention to tow a van it is advisable to ask that question, as you have found out it can be a disappointment when you get the answer too late.

To me a decent salesman should know the answer or give you a manual to have a look Im sure it would be in there.

Is almost impossible to get it uprated as well without major modifications. Even the big Cruisers that have had their GVM up graded by several hundred KG dont get the towing capacity or towball weight increased and in some cases have had capacity reduced due to their published Combined gross vehicle mass limit

[shanelord]

The ball weight is available, you should only have to ask or read the manual. I thought it well known that Euro cars almost all have a very light ballweight limit. Every vehicle has a limit on this, including heavy 4x4. Eg a Pajero can tow 3000kg but above 2500kg has a reducing scale of ballweight as does a Patrol.
Solution is buy a Bayley or a Jurgens or a York van and that will go a long way to solving the problem.

Unfortunately "assuming" something rarely turns out good as I also found out. After that I did due diligence regarding weights of both parts of the rig.
Failing to tell you the answer to an unasked question is hardly misrepresentation.

In the brochure for my Passat it has a section regarding weights including the ball weight so it is available before you buy.

It's not in the brochure or on the website for the Tiguan.

It's also not common knowledge (The VW Dealership owner is in agreement with me on this - he's working to clarify with VW Corporate).

Regards,
Shane.

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[Guest001]

While I agree partially with this, Australia, like NZ, follow the USA methodology of 6-15% as ball weight.

If you are advertising a car in Australia, misrepresentation or false advertising is when a reasonable person based on available information would be misled.

In this case VW Sales staff, VW brochures and VW website advertise 2500KG towing and don't detail the 100KG ball weight.

The reasonable assumption IMHO for most people would be then that the manufacturer would advertise to suit the local environment, and 2500KG would be realistic based on the towable caravans or trailers in the local market.

We can agree to disagree on this; but until I found this detail on these forums, I was misled.

Regards,
Shane.

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The ball weight is available, you should only have to ask or read the manual. I thought it well known that Euro cars almost all have a very light ballweight limit. Every vehicle has a limit on this, including heavy 4x4. Eg a Pajero can tow 3000kg but above 2500kg has a reducing scale of ballweight as does a Patrol.
Solution is buy a Bayley or a Jurgens or a York van and that will go a long way to solving the problem.

Unfortunately "assuming" something rarely turns out good as I also found out. After that I did due diligence regarding weights of both parts of the rig.
Failing to tell you the answer to an unasked question is hardly misrepresentation.

In the brochure for my Passat it has a section regarding weights including the ball weight so it is available before you buy.