Tuning Discussion - 132TSI / 162TSI

[Kachingg]

I have installed the revo intake in my tdi just the front airscoop not filterbox or turbo hoses

I have noticed a pickup in the turbo spool speed and also a increase in mid range torque no top end power gain noticeable tho

The cold outside air is pushed straight into the filter-box with the new scoop rather than being fed from the side and getting warm engine bay air as in the stock one not cheap tho as its made of carbon fibre

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Stock intake



Revo intake

Easy to remove and refit stock one to take in for service 10 min job with a few screws

[INASNT]

$950.. Damn

[Kachingg]

yeah not quite as bad as that ordered off ebay just under 600 landed the old carbon fibre is not cheap

[Dan_3MPS]

So...after a weekend with some spirited driving I've decided I want more grunt! Tempted to try a JB1 or JB4...has anyone fitted either of these to a 162 Tiguan and is willing to share results/thoughts?

[ewok666]

So...after a weekend with some spirited driving I've decided I want more grunt! Tempted to try a JB1 or JB4...has anyone fitted either of these to a 162 Tiguan and is willing to share results/thoughts?

I used to have a JB1 on an S3 and replaced it with a full APR tune. You will get more power out of the ECU tune and it’s probably better for the engine as it’s more than just adding boost.

I recently got the APR tune onto the Tiguan and can highly recommend it. It’s also 10% off at the moment. The car is SO much better now!

FYI, if they really want then VW can detect the use of JB1 and JB4 as well now.

[tigger73]

Tuning Discussion - 132TSI / 162TSI

The main benefit of the JB1/4 is that you can take them off and on-sell them later when you sell the car or decide to get a “proper” tune.

If you’re chasing more grunt I’d go for a full tune as more than likely if you get a tuning box you’ll want more after a few months and you’ll be at the same spot again...


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[Sydneykid]

I used to have a JB1 on an S3 and replaced it with a full APR tune. You will get more power out of the ECU tune and it’s probably better for the engine as it’s more than just adding boost.

That's a bit simplistic, adding more boost increases the airflow, which the airflow meter senses and tells the ECU which then adds more fuel to match to maintain the factory specified air fuel ratio. The knock sensors detect any detonation that results from the increased boost and the the ECU adjusts the ignition timing accordingly. My view is the untouched ECU has all of the safeguards built in that VW intended, whereas a tuner may be eliminating and/or bypassing some or all of those safeguards. As a result I believe that a properly installed and spec'd tuning box is better for the engine because the standard safeguards remain in place.


Cheers
Gary

[INASNT]

That's a bit simplistic, adding more boost increases the airflow, which the airflow meter senses and tells the ECU which then adds more fuel to match to maintain the factory specified air fuel ratio. The knock sensors detect any detonation that results from the increased boost and the the ECU adjusts the ignition timing accordingly. My view is the untouched ECU has all of the safeguards built in that VW intended, whereas a tuner may be eliminating and/or bypassing some or all of those safeguards. As a result I believe that a properly installed and spec'd tuning box is better for the engine because the standard safeguards remain in place.


Cheers
Gary

Accept this for just a stage 1 tune. Once you go and start upgrading components just increasing the boost and expecting everything else to just follow to suit wont work as VW as all car manufacturers have built in 'nannies' which will hold back you the car performing as it should.

Once you go down the path of upgrading a good tuner can toe the line between being a nanny and power output.

I had a R33 Skyline which made 350kw@wheels many many many many years ago, spent many hours tuning to have the car running as I wanted.

[Dan_3MPS]

I used to have a JB1 on an S3 and replaced it with a full APR tune. You will get more power out of the ECU tune and it’s probably better for the engine as it’s more than just adding boost.

I recently got the APR tune onto the Tiguan and can highly recommend it. It’s also 10% off at the moment. The car is SO much better now!

FYI, if they really want then VW can detect the use of JB1 and JB4 as well now.

I had an APR tune on my previous Mk6 GTI. Not wanting to head down that path yet with the Tiguan, if I did I'd probably get a custom tune.

Have we got any real confirmation that piggybacks/interceptors like the JB1 and JB4 are detectable? Or are they still the rumours from a year or so back? I've been digging but haven't found any concrete evidence, the bulletin referenced in many places appears to be a fake...

[INASNT]

I had an APR tune on my previous Mk6 GTI. Not wanting to head down that path yet with the Tiguan, if I did I'd probably get a custom tune.

Have we got any real confirmation that piggybacks/interceptors like the JB1 and JB4 are detectable? Or are they still the rumours from a year or so back? I've been digging but haven't found any concrete evidence, the bulletin referenced in many places appears to be a fake...

Test the rumors... Get a JB on your tig, then blow up the engine, transmission or other components, remove JB, take to VW for warranty claim and see if they reject it because of JB,..

[Ozsko]

FYI, if they really want then VW can detect the use of JB1 and JB4 as well now.

I was told that a few weeks ago, straight from the horses mouth so to speak, in this case a VW service tech.

[Joegas]

Unichip say there’s is undetectable when removed, +30kw at the wheels, $1990 fitted and tuned on dyno.

[Dan_3MPS]

Test the rumors... Get a JB on your tig, then blow up the engine, transmission or other components, remove JB, take to VW for warranty claim and see if they reject it because of JB,..

Haha! Nahh...

I was told that a few weeks ago, straight from the horses mouth so to speak, in this case a VW service tech.

Interesting. Would be great if we got more info on how.

Unichip say there’s is undetectable when removed, +30kw at the wheels, $1990 fitted and tuned on dyno.

$1990! That's a ripoff, sorry. Ridiculous price.

[Ozsko]

My information is that VW have now introduced detection capability into their software system. Take that for what it is worth and perhaps ask a VW tech, one who works in a dealer not an independent workshop to see if the story is corroborated. I can only repeat what I was told. I would not take what a tuning company tells me as gospel to tell the truth but then I am the world's biggest cynic when it comes to someone trying to sell me something. If you don't ask you will never know for certain and get back to us with the answer.

[tigger73]

Interesting. Would be great if we got more info on how.

The ECU will record peak numbers like maximum request and actual boost. It’s pretty simple to read these values out and compare with what a stock tune does.

I’m not sure if this is exactly what VW is doing but this would be one way to do it.

$1990! That's a ripoff, sorry. Ridiculous price.

Yes for those sorts of $ you can get a proper flash ECU and DSG tune and probably not far away from a DP/stage 2.



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