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  • Electric seat dead after battery test

    I got a front drivers seat from a 2019 Tiguan Highline and was testing it with direct power today with a battery. After using the position controls, I pressed one of the memory position buttons. The seat began moving to the memory position for about 1 second and then stopped. I did this a couple more times with the same response from all 3 position buttons.

    I then went back to using the position controls and within a few seconds the seat went dead.

    I've done the following:

    • Tried a different battery
    • Removed the controller circuit board to inspect for anything burned
    • Disconnected each button control module 1 at a time
    • Tested each motor with direct power - all ok


    Have I fried the control board? Pics attached for reference.

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    Last edited by Bezzey; 23-05-2023, 09:44 PM.

  • #2
    One thing to note with these seats is if you have it back beyond a certain point it wont return to its set place It also wont reverse for easy exit. Mine did it and VW put markers on side of seat to show where not to move it back past. Aslo wont work if voltage drops too far.

    Dont know about a Tig but the base with all the gear in for a Passat is just over $1000
    2021 Kamiq LE 110 , Moon White, BV cameras F & B
    Mamba Ebike to replace Tiguan

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    • #3
      This is what I'm thinking has happened. I'm looking at the idea of wiring up the seat to my Amarok in order to access it with VCDS to clear faults/recalibrate or something like that.

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      • #4
        My guess would be the seat controller is looking for a can bus signal to say the ignition is on something like the Klemmen_Status_01 on the MQB platform.

        Do you have a scan tool? You can directly hook it up to the CAN high and low pins in the harness and see if it communicates.

        Or you could try creating a test bench setup like in this thread Testbench setup? | Page 10 | Ross-Tech Forums
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        • #5
          I have VCD and a OBD bluetooth dongle. If I identify the CAN pins on the seat control module and the OBD connection, can I communicate with it that way?

          I will look into the test bench thread you linked.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bezzey View Post
            I have VCD and a OBD bluetooth dongle. If I identify the CAN pins on the seat control module and the OBD connection, can I communicate with it that way?

            I will look into the test bench thread you linked.
            Hi
            connect to OBD2 with VCDs and look and search for module 36 .

            ECU: 0036 - Seat Adjustment Driver Side



            See if you can log into DTC error any messages there. If you can access coding , adaptation of module 36 , than Can communication from driver seat to Car is fine and control module is responding to car gateway, But you my have some other problem which need to be addressed with special VW software only .
            Regards

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            • #7
              Where should I connect the module to my Amarok? Or is there way to connect directly to the seat module without a vehicle? Here is an old auto scan from my Amarok:

              Saturday,13,February,2021,13:00:49:45971
              VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
              VCDS Version: 20.12.0.1 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
              Data version: 20201125 DS322.1
              Ross-Tech: Home


              VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZEA031608 License Plate: 1BC5BZ
              Mileage: 211570km-131463mi Repair Order:

              Chassis Type: 2H-VN81 (6N0)
              Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 32 37 56 69 6C 0B

              VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZEA031608 Mileage: 211570km-131463miles

              01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
              02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
              03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
              04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
              08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
              09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
              10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
              15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
              17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
              19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
              25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
              32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
              37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
              56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
              69-Trailer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
              6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 01: Engine (J623-CSHA) Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
              Part No SW: 03L 906 012 AF HW: 03L 907 309 AC
              Component: R4 2,0L EDC H24 5936
              Revision: 74H24--- Serial number: 00000000000000
              Coding: 012A4012233600080001
              Shop #: WSC 29131 001 1048576
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906012AF 001009
              ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906012AF_001.rod
              VCID: 6889BCFE92F8E27BDB2-803C

              7 Faults Found:
              4807 - EGR System
              P0401 00 [096] - Insufficient Flow
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              12306 - Particulate Trap Bank 1
              P2002 00 [096] - Efficiency Below Threshold
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              4814 - System Voltage
              P0562 00 [032] - Too Low
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              10065 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
              P0104 00 [032] - Intermittent
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              4881 - EGR Valve (N1
              P1440 00 [032] - Open Circuit
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              9120 - EGR Sensor 1
              P046C 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              4629 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit
              P068A 00 [032] - Opens Too Early
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

              Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels:| 0CM-325-025.clb
              Part No SW: 2H0 927 158 D HW: 0CM 325 025
              Component: 2H0 20RTDIRdW H16 3001
              Revision: --H16---
              Coding: 000001
              Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL450211 002011
              ROD: EV_TCMAL450211_002_VN81.rod
              VCID: 2E050AE6709C7C4BD1E-807A

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: None
              Part No SW: 2H0 907 379 M HW: 2H0 907 379 D
              Component: ESP MK25A XT H44 0111
              Revision: 00H44001
              Coding: C07324B69997039624A899A3AF58F0
              Shop #: WSC 07456 790 49164
              VCID: 3A2D36B6BC54A0EB7D6-806E

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
              Part No SW: 2H0 907 040 E HW: 2H0 907 040 E
              Component: ClimatronicT5 H19 0406
              Revision: 00001003
              Coding: 0000000002
              Shop #: WSC 07456 790 50316
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
              ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
              VCID: 2313EBD22B5EC1234E0-8076

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
              Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B HW: 7H0 937 090
              Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712
              Revision: B9074001 Serial number: 0571 263130671
              Coding: 240002380C61040093380E302CCB86C50F80610F6080204130 0000020003
              Shop #: WSC 29131 001 1048576
              VCID: 2D070DEA7D1A0753E84-8078

              Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
              Component: RLS 231013 05 54 0403
              Coding: 02302D

              Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 M HW: 6R0 959 802 M Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
              Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3323
              Serial number: --------------------
              Coding: 050000

              Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 P HW: 6R0 959 801 P Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
              Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3323
              Serial number: --------------------
              Coding: 050000

              Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
              Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
              Coding: 000000

              Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
              Component: LIN BACKUP HO H11 9005
              Coding: 000000

              Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
              Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
              Coding: 000000

              Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C HW: 5K0 959 542 C
              Component: E221__MFL-TAS H31 0037
              Serial number: 0304767
              Coding: 820000

              Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
              Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3323
              Serial number: --------------------
              Coding: 000000

              Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
              Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3323
              Serial number: --------------------
              Coding: 000000

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
              Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 7N0 919 475
              Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0106
              Revision: -------- Serial number: 28261329903763
              Coding: 318103
              Shop #: WSC 29131 001 104857
              ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
              ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
              VCID: 3B2333B2B3EE99E3660-806E

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
              Part No SW: 2H0 959 655 B HW: 2H0 959 655 B
              Component: VW10Airbag00H H07 0013
              Revision: -------- Serial number: 003HN00EWKT9
              Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003048
              Shop #: WSC 07446 790 50316
              ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
              ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
              VCID: 33331B929BBE51A3BE0-8066

              Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
              Serial number: 3495RRB401I50O3MRHME

              Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
              Serial number: 3505RRB401850O3MB0QA

              Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
              Serial number: 3555YRB400M50FMEQGUT

              Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
              Serial number: 3565YRB400M50FMEP9ME

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
              Part No SW: 2H0 920 871 HW: 2H0 920 871
              Component: KOMBI H04 0709
              Serial number: 00000000000000
              Coding: 151A00
              Shop #: WSC 07456 000 09999
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
              ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
              VCID: 6597B5CA65EAFF13E04-8030

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
              Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
              Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712
              Revision: B9074001
              Coding: 742300
              Shop #: WSC 29131 001 1048576
              VCID: 70B9D49EAAA82ABB832-8024

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
              Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
              Component: IMMO H04 0709
              Serial number:
              Coding: 000000
              Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
              ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
              VCID: 6A8DC6F68CF4D06BCD6-803E

              No fault code found.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Address 32: Differential Locks (J647) Labels:* 2H0-927-771.clb
              Part No SW: 2H0 927 771 A HW: 2H0 927 771
              Component: Quersperre H04 0017
              Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 4DG 16.10.13 00
              Coding: 000001
              Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817 A01606
              ROD: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817.rod
              VCID: 2C0100EE46800E5BFFA-8078

              No fault code found.
              Last edited by Bezzey; 25-05-2023, 08:36 PM.

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              • #8
                Continued below...
                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
                Part No SW: 3C8 035 279 K HW: 3C8 035 279 K
                Component: RNS315-EU H78 0408
                Serial number: VWZAZ2S0986357
                Coding: 000004110200160000031002
                Shop #: WSC 10314 002 1048576
                ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
                ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
                VCID: 33331B929BBE51A3BE0-8066

                Data carrier:
                Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 E
                Component: AUS_V1 0043

                No fault code found.

                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
                Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
                Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
                Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00008030467966
                Coding: 0100000100000000
                Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
                VCID: 3039149E6A286ABBC32-8064

                2 Faults Found:
                02563 - Trailer; Right Tail Lamps (M61)
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
                Freeze Frame:
                Fault Status: 11101010
                Fault Priority: 3
                Fault Frequency: 1
                Reset counter: 154
                Mileage: 210779 km
                Time Indication: 0
                Date: 2015.06.22
                Time: 19:06:08

                02564 - Trailer; Left Tail Lamps (M60)
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
                Freeze Frame:
                Fault Status: 11101010
                Fault Priority: 3
                Fault Frequency: 1
                Reset counter: 154
                Mileage: 210779 km
                Time Indication: 0
                Date: 2015.06.22
                Time: 19:06:08


                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Address 6C: Back-up Cam.
                Cannot be reached

                End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:35, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

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                • #9
                  You can connect directly to the module; my first bench setup was a cheap OBD female connector and hooked up the following pinout.

                  4, 5 = Gnd
                  16 = Bat+
                  6 = CAN H
                  14 = CAN L


                  You can tell the CAN wires are coloured (orange with a colour band = CAN H) (orange with a brown band = CAN L)
                  MY12 Passat FSI Highline | 3.6L VR6 | Cashmere Brown | Driver Assistance Package | Dynaudio | Discover Media | TPMS Direct | Side Assist | Adaptive Cruise | 3D colour cluster | More coming soon
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                  • #10
                    I've ordered this cable:

                    iKKEGOL 1ft Feet 30cm/12 16 Pin J1962 OBD OBDII OBD2 Female Connector Car Diagnostic Extension Cable Cord Pigtail DIY Mobley Adapter https://amzn.asia/d/cZuSa3s

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MIG View Post
                      You can connect directly to the module; my first bench setup was a cheap OBD female connector and hooked up the following pinout.

                      4, 5 = Gnd
                      16 = Bat+
                      6 = CAN H
                      14 = CAN L


                      You can tell the CAN wires are coloured (orange with a colour band = CAN H) (orange with a brown band = CAN L)
                      I have successfully connected directly to the seat module using this female OBD connector:
                      https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07F16HC12?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
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                      This is probably well known be experienced members here, but I had to select the seat module directly under Select Control Module.


                      This is my initial scan:


                      Code:
                      Friday,26,May,2023,21:27:33:45971
                      Code:
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Data version: 20220830 DS341.0[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]www.Ross-Tech.com[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                      [/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]VIN: WVGZZZ5NZKW833436   License Plate:[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                      [/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                      [/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Control Module Part Number: 5Q0 959 760 C[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]  Component and/or Version: Sitzmemory    H09 0024[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]           Software Coding: 001400020000050001C280808180000000008181000000F400[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                      VCID: 3D273DAAADFA97D3CC5-8068[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                      [/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Advanced Identification/FAZIT[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Serial number: Y0006RJJ39570[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Identification: KO1-ABY[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Date: 19.10.18[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Manufacturer number: 3201[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Test stand number: 9570[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Flash Status[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Programming Attempts(data): 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Successful Attempts(data): 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Flash Date: 00.01.01[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Flash Tool Code(data): 40022 666 40022[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Misc.[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Hardware number: 5Q0 959 760 C[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Workshop System Name: J810[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Equipment/PR Code: 000000000000000000000000[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Dataset Number: -----------[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     Dataset Version: ----[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]     ASAM Dataset Revision: 002022[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]VCDS Info:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]       VCID: 3D273DAAADFA97D3CC5-8068[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]       Labels: NONE[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]       ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide.rod[/FONT][/COLOR]


                      Under Basic Settings, there are 3 options:
                      1. IDE02325-MAS00675-Reset to factory setting
                      2. IDE02854-MAS00675-Reset standardization
                      3. MAS05563-MAS00675-Norming

                      I am reluctant to perform reset to factory settings as I've read other people having headaches when doing this.


                      I have performed IDE02854-MAS00675-Reset standardization on all seat motors successfully.


                      When I first tried MAS05563-MAS00675-Norming, I got the following error: ERROR: Vehicle speed too high. This was easily fixed by going to Adaptations and changing ENG123066-vehicle_velocity_monitoring from active to not active. Now when I try Norming, I get the following error: ERROR: Conditions not correct or request sequence error.


                      When I go into Output Tests and try each option to manually operate the motors, I get the following errors:

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                      • #12
                        These are the faults that persist:


                        Code:
                         Saturday,27,May,2023,00:49:32:45971
                        Code:
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]VCDS Version: Release 23.3.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]www.Ross-Tech.com[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]               Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr       Labels: NONE[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]Control Module Part Number: 5Q0 959 760 C    HW: 5Q0 959 760 C[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana] Component and/or Version: Sitzmemory    H09 0024[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]          Software Coding: 001400020000050001C280808180000000008181000000F400[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]           Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 61029[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]             ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide 002022 (VW37)[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                      ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide.rod[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                     VCID: 3D273DAAADFA97D224D-8068[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]7 Faults Found:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9655636 - Motor for Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1355 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9655892 - Motor for Seat Backrest Adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1356 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9655380 - Motor for seat height adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1354 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9655124 - Motor for Seat Tilt Adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1353 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9654868 - Motor for Lumbar Support Fore/Aft Adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1352 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]9654612 - Motor for Lumbar Support Height Adjustment[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B1351 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 4[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]
                        [/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]10489856 - No Basic Setting[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         B2010 00 [009] - -[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         [keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung/Adaption][/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]         Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]            Freeze Frame:[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Status: 00000001[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Priority: 7[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Fault Frequency: 1[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Reset counter: 81[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Date: 2000.00.00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Verdana]                   Time: 00:00:00[/FONT][/COLOR]
                        Last edited by Bezzey; 27-05-2023, 01:03 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I should have mentioned you needed to select the module when you don't have a gateway in the mix.

                          Check the advance measuring values; my guess is the seat is missing a signal it wants from the rest of the car before enabling the motors, just like you had with the speed too high warning.


                          At least you know the controller is good.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MIG View Post
                            I should have mentioned you needed to select the module when you don't have a gateway in the mix.

                            Check the advance measuring values; my guess is the seat is missing a signal it wants from the rest of the car before enabling the motors, just like you had with the speed too high warning.


                            At least you know the controller is good.
                            I purchased another set of seats yesterday from another wreckers, both full electric with memory and the R-Line emblem.

                            From here on, I will refer to them as:

                            Seat 1: The seat I have working with so far. From Tiguan 1. Appears to be the same as R-Line just no emblem or white stitching. Full electric with memory buttons.

                            Seat 2: The drivers seat from Tiguan 2. R-Line emblem, white stitching full electric with memory buttons.

                            Seat 3: The passenger seat from Tiguan 2. R-Line emblem, white stitching full electric with memory buttons.

                            I have compared the advanced measuring values between Seat 1, Seat 2 & Seat 3. The only difference in advanced measuring values I have found is this:

                            Seat 1:
                            IDE01457 Energy management deactivation stage Deactivation stage 3
                            Seat 2:
                            IDE01457 Energy management deactivation stage Deactivation stage 0
                            Seat 3:
                            IDE01457 Energy management deactivation stage Deactivation stage 0
                            Seat 1 is still not operational with the following faults:
                            9655636 - Motor for Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment B1355 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            9655892 - Motor for Seat Backrest Adjustment
                            B1356 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            9655380 - Motor for seat height adjustment
                            B1354 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            9655124 - Motor for Seat Tilt Adjustment
                            B1353 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            9654868 - Motor for Lumbar Support Fore/Aft Adjustment
                            B1352 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            9654612 - Motor for Lumbar Support Height Adjustment
                            B1351 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00
                            Time: 00:00:00

                            10489856 - No Basic Setting
                            B2010 00 [009] - -
                            [keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung/Adaption]
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 7
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 81
                            Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 00:00:00
                            Seat 2 is operational with the following faults:
                            9655636 - Motor for Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment B1355 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 4
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 228
                            Mileage: 68276 km
                            Date: 2023.03.04
                            Time: 15:26:26


                            10489856 - No Basic Setting
                            B2010 00 [009] - -
                            [keine oder falsche Grundeinstellung/Adaption]
                            Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                            Freeze Frame:
                            Fault Status: 00000001
                            Fault Priority: 7
                            Fault Frequency: 1
                            Reset counter: 228
                            Mileage: 68276 km
                            Date: 2023.03.04
                            Time: 15:26:26
                            Seat 3 I have not operated any of the buttons yet. No faults present.

                            Edit: I have operated Seat 3 (except for the memory buttons) and still no fault codes. I have noticed an extra option under Basic Settings that is not on Seat 1 & Seat 2:

                            IDE02404-MAS00675-Checksum calculation

                            Last edited by Bezzey; 27-05-2023, 05:14 PM.

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                            • #15
                              No wonder I am getting faults still...the module has, for some reason decided that the maximum and minimum travel values are the same. Not to mentioned the supposed current position of all the motors is exactly the same down to 1 step accuracy and outside the max/min range.

                              Any idea on how to correct this? I've tried numerous attempts of IDE02854-MAS00675-Reset standardization & MAS05563-MAS00675-Norming. Reset standardization passes instantly and Norming comes back with the following error: ERROR: Conditions not correct or request sequence error.

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