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  • Originally posted by Grugly View Post
    As one of your 3 subscribers on YouTube I am looking forward to more videos!

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    LOL we should all subscribe to his channel and support a fellow Tig modder.
    VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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    • Originally posted by Melbourne_Tiggy View Post
      LOL we should all subscribe to his channel and support a fellow Tig modder.
      That's why I did!! Not many Tig 2 vids online that aren't Russian

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      • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
        Just got back from tuning...Made 181.5kw@4 wheels, big difference from 5000rpm. Will post pics and other details shortly..

        The subframe removal is not required when fitting the downpipe, just need to loosen to get get downpipe in and out.

        On the red carpet, it is an old piece of carpet from the house I put in the garage so I don't slip when the floor is wet as grage floor is epoxy coated..
        Congrats! How is the sound of the dp connected to the factory muffler?
        VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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        • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
          Just got back from tuning...Made 181.5kw@4 wheels, big difference from 5000rpm. Will post pics and other details shortly..

          The subframe removal is not required when fitting the downpipe, just need to loosen to get get downpipe in and out.

          On the red carpet, it is an old piece of carpet from the house I put in the garage so I don't slip when the floor is wet as grage floor is epoxy coated..
          Sounds very similar to mine, powerwise, how does it sound, soundwise?


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          • Originally posted by Grugly View Post
            As one of your 3 subscribers on YouTube I am looking forward to more videos!

            Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
            I have subscribers LOL? Notice that there were many years between my hand full of video uploads..
            Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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            • Nice work! Post up the dyno charts if you have them stock vs stage 1 vs stage 2

              2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

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              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
              - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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              • Pics and details

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                Dyno Graphs

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                Stage 2 vs Stage 1 (Note that the 165kw graph is not used as it dipped at the end because of the transmission playing up on the dyno)
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                Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power Curves
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                Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power & Torque Curves
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                Only drove back from dyno home in peak heavy traffic and rain, Melbourne weather has been ****e today.

                In sport can hear dsg farts now even with stock muffler, throatier sound all the way through the rev range so sound better overall. Will see how cold start and sounds once it beds in over the next few days. No time to do any sound clips or videos today, will see how I go during the week.

                The dog mount insert has made everything feel a lot tighter. Stop/Start is very firm now and hard acceleration feels alot firmer, dont get that shunt in the driveline when coming off hard throttle...
                Last edited by INASNT; 17-07-2018, 09:30 PM.
                Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                  A couple of pics of the black wheels and black wrapped parts of the tig before I head over to Etuners for Stage 2 work.

                  Wheels, mirrors, rear wing and lower chrome blacked out.

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                  ‘Before’ pics? Sounds like you’re worried the wrapping will get blasted off when you do your first 0-100 run... lol
                  Great work on the tune!
                  Tiguan Highline 162TSI | Indium Grey | DAP | MY18

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                  • The wrap was done back in Feb when I got the car...
                    Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                    • Originally posted by INASNT View Post
                      Pics and details

                      Downpipe
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                      034 Motorsport Dog Mount Insert
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                      Dyno Time
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                      Dyno Graphs

                      Stage 2 final power output
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                      Stage 2 vs Stage 1 (Note that the 165kw graph is not used as it dipped at the end because of the transmission playing up on the dyno)
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                      Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power Curves
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                      Stage 2 vs Stage 1 vs Stock Power & Torque Curves
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                      Only drove back from dyno home in peak heavy traffic and rain, Melbourne weather has been ****e today.

                      In sport can hear dsg farts now even with stock muffler, throatier sound all the way through the rev range so sound better overall. Will see how cold start and sounds once it beds in over the next few days. No time to do any sound clips or videos today, will see how I go during the week.

                      The dog mount insert has made everything feel a lot tighter. Stop/Start is very firm now and hard acceleration feels alot firmer, dont get that shunt in the driveline when coming off hard throttle...
                      Well done! How was the cold start sound this morning ?
                      VW Tiguan 162 TSI Highline w/ R-Line & DAP. Mods: OEM IS38 turbo, APR IS38 98 RON ECU tune, TVS Stage 2 + with custom TCU tune, APR Downpipe and resonator delete, APR turbo inlet, VWR turbo muffler delete, APR pendulum mount, APR dog bone insert, APR Open Pod Filter (MQB), RAMAIR intake tube, APR Red Ignition Coils, NGK R7437-9 Spark Plugs, DBA T3 slotted rotors front and T2 slotted rotors rear, ATE ceramic pads front and rear Vbox: 0-100 4.1s

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                      • Was a lot louder but a nice sound. Lots more induction and exhaust noise during hard acceleration, even in normal mode can hear the dsg farts now, cruising at 100km/hr same noise as stock system which I like.

                        Got an check engine light driving this morning which is caused by the O2 Sensor and new high flow CAT, coding fix will fix this which will get done tomorrow. From the picture of the dump front pipe hangers you can see the end of the hangers are close to the frame, it vibrates slightly at low rpm so getting that sorted on the weekend, other than that really happy with the stage 2.....

                        Discussed IS38 swap yesterday, supply (new), install, retune will be around 3.5k with the current mods I already have and will see somewhere near 230-240kw@4 wheels. With a larger than IS38 turbo will need intercooler, fuel pump, plugs, coils upgrade..
                        Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                        • What are your IATs like with the added boost, etc. ?

                          Generally FMIC upgrades are because of high IATs not so much air flow, unless it becomes a restriction and you're getting pressure drops from In/Out of the core.

                          Also, I wonder if that slight bump in the torque curve is caused by the 4 Motion sending power around. Similar thing happens on Skyline GT-Rs when the Attessa goes mental lol.
                          Daily 2018 Tiguan MK2 Sportline (Drag & Drop Tune, 12.9s @ 108mph)
                          Weekend/Track 1996 Skyline R33 GTS-t Stage 99 (Built Motor, GTX3576 Gen 2, 407rwkW) [Build Thread]

                          www.nhbautomotive.com.au

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                          • Cant recall the IAT's, I know the actual temps were input into the dyno dynamics software for the power calculation. If you want to cheat you can put in 100 degree or higher intake temps when actuals are 70-8- degrees which will give you a higher peak reading.

                            Bigger turbo would generally mean bigger cooler, did the same on my Skyline many many many many years ago.
                            Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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                            • Generally I use the weather station for the ambient temperatures and use the IAT for the compensation tables (fuel and ignition), IAT should not be used to determine overall power figures haha..

                              That's cheating

                              I know certain shops would disconnect their ambient temp probes to read higher power, anyhow that's off topic


                              Bigger turbo doesn't mean bigger cooler, smaller turbo with big boost would generate much more heat than a bigger turbo with lower boost (where both turbos are supplying the same amount of airflow).

                              Sorry for all the questions, I've never tuned european cars so it's fascinating. I predominantly help build and dyno/road tune Jap siet boxes for friends and forum members as a hobby.
                              Daily 2018 Tiguan MK2 Sportline (Drag & Drop Tune, 12.9s @ 108mph)
                              Weekend/Track 1996 Skyline R33 GTS-t Stage 99 (Built Motor, GTX3576 Gen 2, 407rwkW) [Build Thread]

                              www.nhbautomotive.com.au

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                              • There are many shops that fudge dyno numbers, I have seen some put ambient temp sensor on the engine..

                                I am waiting on the guy that did the IS38 swap to get some dyno numbers.
                                Tiguan Gen2 162TSI Etuners IS38 Stage 3 238.6 kw@4 wheels

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