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  • #31
    Hi Guys

    Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere but am wanting to know if anyone has had problems with traction with this unit stock standard map1?
    I have a brand spanking new skoda superb 2016 162kw version 6spd DSG (same engine and setup as as octavia RS). Any other issues?
    Also how much extra power and torque from the standard map1. Can't seem to find it. cheers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by boy123 View Post
      Hi Guys

      Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere but am wanting to know if anyone has had problems with traction with this unit stock standard map1?
      I have a brand spanking new skoda superb 2016 162kw version 6spd DSG (same engine and setup as as octavia RS). Any other issues?
      Also how much extra power and torque from the standard map1. Can't seem to find it. cheers
      Coming from someone with a modded RS, you're likely to have traction issues in the wet even on a stock file - naturally, this will get worse as you add more power. Traction will ultimately come down to how you apply that power/feather the throttle. Adding things like coilovers/springs, torque arm insert, stiffer bushes etc will help minimise wheelspin/hop but at the end of the day it's a front wheel drive vehicle.

      Had the 206TSI AWD Superb been available in Jan 15, I would have jumped all over it - proper sleeper in my opinion!

      Further info on JB1 VW Group - N54Tech.com - Your Source for International Turbo BMW Racing Discussion
      GOLF R Stage 2+
      MK3 OCTAVIA vRS WAGON

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      • #33
        Originally posted by NSNO View Post
        So is it permanently connected once you connect all the plugs or do you upload the map and then remove it?
        Stays permanently connected.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NSNO View Post
          How easy is it to install once you receive the unit?
          There are 3 plugs that need to be connected. If you have a Golf R you need to access the third from underneath the car. If you have a GTI (not sure about the clubsport) you can apparently reach all the plugs from the top. I'll hopefully know what the truth is sometime next week

          Originally posted by NSNO View Post
          So is it permanently connected once you connect all the plugs or do you upload the map and then remove it?
          It needs to be connected to work. If you take it off, your car goes back to totally stock. The JB1 is an piggyback style unit. This means that it intercepts the signals running between the engine and ECU and modifies them as required before sending them on their way. The ECU thinks it's talking directly to the engine, and the engine thinks it's being instructed by the ECU only.

          The really attractive part of all this is that you can remove it and its very difficult to tell the car was ever tuned. Nothing is changed on the ECU, so no "naughty flags" are set for the dealer to screw you over with. The plan is to take mine off for each service.
          2016 GTI Performance | Pure White | JB1 | Dog Bone | Full Tint | Stop/Start Delete | Avatar by sandwg

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mattaus View Post
            The really attractive part of all this is that you can remove it and its very difficult to tell the car was ever tuned. Nothing is changed on the ECU, so no "naughty flags" are set for the dealer to screw you over with. The plan is to take mine off for each service.
            Yep, that's what attracts me to this and I plan to do the same and remove it for each service.



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            MY08 Mk5 GT Sport - sold
            MY14 Tiguan 118TSI - sold (Mazda3 SP25GT in its place)
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            • #36
              Originally posted by masev View Post
              Coming from someone with a modded RS, you're likely to have traction issues in the wet even on a stock file - naturally, this will get worse as you add more power. Traction will ultimately come down to how you apply that power/feather the throttle. Adding things like coilovers/springs, torque arm insert, stiffer bushes etc will help minimise wheelspin/hop but at the end of the day it's a front wheel drive vehicle.

              Had the 206TSI AWD Superb been available in Jan 15, I would have jumped all over it - proper sleeper in my opinion!

              Further info on JB1 VW Group - N54Tech.com - Your Source for International Turbo BMW Racing Discussion
              Ok thanks so much for your reply. The RS goes well with the box? I suppose if I am careful with not so aggressive takeoff then I can enjoy the extra power oomph in the mid rev range. Interested to hear what map you using? I am thinking to configure the boost profile by reducing the rpms to limit the wheel slip (use the 500rpm increments). Does that make sense? You might see an old man driving a superb slowly at the lights and then all of a sudden take off! ha

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              • #37
                I want to add to the group buy JB1 + cable but alas don't know how to add it to the first post list? Sorry a newbie to all this stuff (old fella!)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by boy123 View Post
                  I want to add to the group buy JB1 + cable but alas don't know how to add it to the first post list? Sorry a newbie to all this stuff (old fella!)
                  urxtream will add you when they see your post, don't worry
                  2016 GTI Performance | Pure White | JB1 | Dog Bone | Full Tint | Stop/Start Delete | Avatar by sandwg

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                  • #39
                    I'm in for jb1 + cable.

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                    • #40
                      Boy123 and Dudgemo,

                      Can you please advise the Year, Generation, Make and Model of your cars please?

                      Cheers
                      VW MK7 Golf GTI 40 Years | White | DSG | JB1 | Advan Racing RS-DF | Michelin PSS | Current
                      PORSCHE 987.2 Boxster | Silver | PDK | Capristo Exhaust | BMC Filter | OZ Racing Alleggerita | Hankook R-S3 | Current
                      VW MK6 Golf R | Blue | DSG | GIAC Stage 1 | Sold
                      VW MK4 Golf GTI | Red | 5 Spd | MTM Stage 5 | Sold

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rosslm View Post
                        George is the developer for the Golf R / RS3 JB1 based in Johannesburg SA they use the same duel injection engine as we get in OZ but the JB1 seems to cater for all markets even the US direct only injection engine, if I remember correctly George has questioned why North America gets the direct only injection. Performance seems much the same with either engine regardless.

                        More info check this forum

                        VWVortex.com - Burger Motorsport JB1 Plug and Play Information Thread 7R and S3 Specific
                        Thanks for the info rosslm, I've now spent quite a few hours reading the VWVortex thread. What a wealth of information George is, and extremely patient in dealing with customers or prospective customers. I feel we are investing in a very good product with great after sales service. Bring it on, can't wait!
                        Current drive:2016 Golf GTI 40 Years in Pure White

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                        • #42
                          How will we make payment btw ?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by peekay34 View Post
                            How will we make payment btw ?
                            I guess we just order online (apply a coupon code for the discount) and pay AutoInstruct directly with our credit cards? I'll double check with AutoInstruct on that and shall revert with exact details on payment options closer to the deadline.
                            Last edited by urxtream; 10-09-2016, 02:52 PM.
                            VW MK7 Golf GTI 40 Years | White | DSG | JB1 | Advan Racing RS-DF | Michelin PSS | Current
                            PORSCHE 987.2 Boxster | Silver | PDK | Capristo Exhaust | BMC Filter | OZ Racing Alleggerita | Hankook R-S3 | Current
                            VW MK6 Golf R | Blue | DSG | GIAC Stage 1 | Sold
                            VW MK4 Golf GTI | Red | 5 Spd | MTM Stage 5 | Sold

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                            • #44
                              I am also guessing each individual will get a Tax Invoice each?


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Polar B View Post
                                I am also guessing each individual will get a Tax Invoice each?


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                                I'm fairly certain we will get individual tax invoices from AutoInstruct.

                                Btw, are you placing an order with us coz I can't see your name on the list.
                                Last edited by urxtream; 10-09-2016, 02:53 PM.
                                VW MK7 Golf GTI 40 Years | White | DSG | JB1 | Advan Racing RS-DF | Michelin PSS | Current
                                PORSCHE 987.2 Boxster | Silver | PDK | Capristo Exhaust | BMC Filter | OZ Racing Alleggerita | Hankook R-S3 | Current
                                VW MK6 Golf R | Blue | DSG | GIAC Stage 1 | Sold
                                VW MK4 Golf GTI | Red | 5 Spd | MTM Stage 5 | Sold

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