Golf R Wagon thread

[tigger73]

Can I ask how your source your information? I don't don't it's accuracy, just interested to know if you have access to information normally only privy to dealers. Also, who has determined the market for the Golf R wagon is "niche" only? I would have thought a regular Golf R wagon might fill the vacuum left behind with the demise of the Passat R36 and its popular wagon. I recently met someone at a Volkswagen Driving Experience Day who fits this very scenario.

Hey Mikey I just do what anyone looking into buying one of these cars do - ask lots of questions!

I have a friend looking at getting an R wagon and so had a chat to one of my local dealers to get some more info for him - mainly to help in his decision making. The dealer was happy enough to look on the system to tell me what cars/colour combinations were available in the state and they also gave me some more general info regards to the situation Australia-wide.

I agree that with the demise of the R36 that the Golf R wagon would be a reasonable alternative for a lot of people. As far as whether the Golf R wagon is going to make it here in a non-Wolfsburg spec I really don't know. It's all speculation at this point but given that it has only been brought in as a special edition the only thing you can work on (in terms of a buying decision) is that once these vehicles are sold there will not be any more at least in the short/medium term.

The B8 Passat is only being sold in a 132TSI and 140TDI spec at launch. At the moment there are no approvals for a higher output Passat and certainly no 6 cylinder options. The new Skoda Superb has a 162TSI and 206TSI AWD option (Mk7 Golf GTI/R engines) so I think that you'll not see a V6 in any of the MQB platform vehicles.

There certainly seems to be a bit of a gap in terms of having a high output wagon.

[Mikey1]

OK a bit of an update for those still sitting on the fence.

Currently there's around 2/3 of the 200 cars coming in that are already showing as allocated/sold. Of the remaining 30% there are virtually no blue left, a few white and the remainder are limestone grey.

There are cars on the docks at the moment and vehicles arriving over the next couple of months. A lot of dealers showing to have cars available are the regional dealers so if your dealer isn't prepared to look on the system for you it may be that you need to get on the phone and ring some of the smaller regional dealerships to hunt down the car that you're after.

As far as a regular Golf R wagon it's not on the price list. For the Golf R hatch there's a price adder for the Wolfsburg edition but the wagon just has the price for the Wolfsburg wagon. It may come back as another special edition model later in the model cycle but I doubt you'll see it as a regular model. It's a bit of a niche vehicle.

Can I ask how your source your information? I'm not questioning its accuracy, just interested to know if you have access to information normally only privy to dealers. Also, who has determined the market for the Golf R wagon is "niche" only? I would have thought a regular Golf R wagon might fill the vacuum left behind with the demise of the Passat R36 and its popular wagon. I recently met someone at a Volkswagen Driving Experience Day who fits this very scenario.

[tigger73]

OK a bit of an update for those still sitting on the fence.

Currently there's around 2/3 of the 200 cars coming in that are already showing as allocated/sold. Of the remaining 30% there are virtually no blue left, a few white and the remainder are limestone grey.

There are cars on the docks at the moment and vehicles arriving over the next couple of months. A lot of dealers showing to have cars available are the regional dealers so if your dealer isn't prepared to look on the system for you it may be that you need to get on the phone and ring some of the smaller regional dealerships to hunt down the car that you're after.

As far as a regular Golf R wagon it's not on the price list. For the Golf R hatch there's a price adder for the Wolfsburg edition but the wagon just has the price for the Wolfsburg wagon. It may come back as another special edition model later in the model cycle but I doubt you'll see it as a regular model. It's a bit of a niche vehicle.

[runningmanz]

They are due to arrive at Port Kembla on 15 September and should be ready at dealers a week or two after that. The interior is the same as a standard MY16 Golf R. Here is a link to an in depth review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0hF8wgRsGw

Ok cheers yeah I have seen that before. Good video. Lol at his reference to the umbrella in the back! I was wanting to see the leather seats etc and actual Wolfsburg additions but I guess that will have to do until reviews become available.

[R36]

Yeah I think I'll be putting in an order now for the Wolfsburg R wagon and not going to worry about waiting to see if the standard R wagon becomes available. I can't seem to find any interior pictures, reviews or video of the Wolfsburg R Wagon though. Have any actually landed in Oz yet or has anyone got links to pics, videos etc?

They are due to arrive at Port Kembla on 15 September and should be ready at dealers a week or two after that. The interior is the same as a standard MY16 Golf R. Here is a link to an in depth review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0hF8wgRsGw

[runningmanz]

Yeah I think I'll be putting in an order now for the Wolfsburg R wagon and not going to worry about waiting to see if the standard R wagon becomes available. I can't seem to find any interior pictures, reviews or video of the Wolfsburg R Wagon though. Have any actually landed in Oz yet or has anyone got links to pics, videos etc?

[tigger73]

I think that you'll find that nobody is discounting them as they still haven't arrived in their showrooms. I do know some dealers that have already sold their allocation of Wolfsburg edition (wagon and hatch). And yes don't expect the Wolfsburg edition to happen again as it's a limited Edition.

As far as whether the Golf R wagon continues after this special edition it's possible but I think it may be a bit like the 3 door Mk6 R. There's a small market there and once you've filled the initial numbers after that it's just a dribble.

[R36]

I don't know how well they are actually selling as the R wagon was limited to only 200 in the initial shipment and many dealers still have some available if you want to pay silly money.

[DVSTwig]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this becomes a standard offering locally. Don't buy into the limited numbers stuff, sure maybe the Wolfsburg will be, but this is definitely a marketing exercise for VWA.

If it proves popular enough, they'll bring it in as standard. By all accounts they're selling like hotcakes, and don't compete directly with any other VAG vehicle offered locally.

[runningmanz]

Yeah I'm checking now with NLC about ordering . Still haven't got an answer from VW Australia yet though on if the standard R wagon will be available. Stuff like this was a little confusing not really clarifying if it was Wolfsberg only and leaving the door open for extra shipments.

"Rocketing to Australia in limited numbers in October — unless, that is, demand requires extra shipments — the Golf R Wagon takes all the technology from the Golf R hatch and Audi S3 Sportback, but adds a practical body to the mix."

2016 Volkswagen Golf R Wagon review | CarAdvice

[tigger73]

For the Golf R wagon it's a Wolfsburg or nothing. I don't believe there are any plans on bringing them out as a standard line. This is a limited run "special" edition. Once they're gone they are gone.

Dealers are not discounting these cars as the demand is high. I've even heard of some dealers charging $4k dealer delivery.

Best price I've seen is $63.7k without sunroof and $65.5k with. Though you'll have to hunt around for a dealer with the colour/roof combination you're after as there's limited stock and they're selling out quickly. I reckon they will be sold out before they hit the showrooms.

[runningmanz]

Hey all,

Long time since I posted. The 5 year lease on our 2010 Golf R (man I love that car! ) is ending in Jan 2016 and I've managed to talk the Mrs out of downgrading to a Mazda CX5 and getting the R wagon! Has anyone been able to put in an order for anything other than the Wolfsberg edition? I'm going to contact NLC today and see if they can chase up availability for ordering a standard R wagon with options. Want to get in the queue so its ready for end of Jan 2016

Cheers.

[Timbo]

All Euro cars have depreciated heavily in recent years, mainly because the strength of the $A to the € has allowed a Euro makers to hold and sometimes drop new car prices. That said, Redbook data shows the Mk V, VI, & VII Golfs have held pretty well. Golf R to Audi S3 is a really interesting comparison: when introduced, the Mk VI R really cannibalised Audi sales and has held up pretty well, relative to 8P S3 resale values.

[Dutch77]

I think you'll find that the SQ5 is holding its value incredibly well in some contrast to my past three Golfs/GTi which devalued pretty darn quickly.
That said there is plenty of distance to fall from $100k compared to $45k!

+1, I loved our three VWs but they were easily the worst depreciating cars we ever owned, and we've owned quite a few.

[Ricey]

i am in for some severe motoring shock. Typically I drive vans for work and have a Land Rover defender for play as a get away vehicle for touring and camping. Today I put a deposit down on a blue Wolfsburg R wagon with a pana roof, 68k all up. Would have been happier at 65k but I did get satisfaction with getting them to budge their price down a bit. I know I'm going to love the car, my biggest concern is my keeping my license after many years of driving much slower vehicles.