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  • #211
    So when I purchased my GTI PP I got the Voice Activation SD Card thrown in free of charge. Only problem was they didn't have it in stock when I picked up the car.

    I've just been told by the dealership that the SD Card is on back order from Germany. There are none in the country. Guess that with the MY16 MIB II using an activation code for Voice Control there is no need for the SD Card to be kept in stock.....

    Another quick question. Does the Discover Media unit have HDD capacity like the RNS 510? If both SD card holders have the Navigation and Voice Control loaded I presume you can't load any music via an SD card?
    Biscay Blue MY10.5 Passat R36 Wagon
    Options: Sunroof, RNS510 Sat Nav, Dynaudio, Power Tailgate, ACC, RVC, BT 9w7, Tint and Factory Towbar.
    Atlantic Blue MY19.5 Golf GTI
    Options: Luxury Package and Sound & Style Package.

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    • #212
      Only the Discover Pro has a HDD iirc.
      Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
      Audi A3

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      • #213
        Originally posted by prn31 View Post
        So when I purchased my GTI PP I got the Voice Activation SD Card thrown in free of charge. Only problem was they didn't have it in stock when I picked up the car.

        I've just been told by the dealership that the SD Card is on back order from Germany. There are none in the country. Guess that with the MY16 MIB II using an activation code for Voice Control there is no need for the SD Card to be kept in stock.....

        Another quick question. Does the Discover Media unit have HDD capacity like the RNS 510? If both SD card holders have the Navigation and Voice Control loaded I presume you can't load any music via an SD card?

        prn31: If the process is the same as on my car (which also needed an SD Card for VC), the SD card is only used to load the VC software into the Discover media unit. Once this happens, the SD card is no longer needed and the slot ifs free to use for music. In my case the dealer wouldn't allow me to take the SD card - they kept it
        Don
        Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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        • #214
          I'll second on what Don stated above. There should be no need for the SD card remaining in the 2nd slot, I have just loaded additional POIs (speed and red light cameras) and it was only a matter of inserting the SD card to load them into the system. Same with the radio station images. There must be some internal memory to allow voice files to be stored.
          Flipper Dog
          Now - T-Roc R, Audi Q5
          Past VWs- T-Roc R-Line, Golf 6, 7 and 7.5, Touareg 7L and 7P, Passat B5.5, Polo MK3, Polo MK4 and GTI

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          • #215
            Originally posted by Seph View Post
            Guys, I've got an MY16 R, with MIIB 6.5" - are these units in the same situation as the older discover units? My voice control button also does not work....

            anyone tried any of the above with MIIB yet?
            Just thought I would share something I picked up on voice control. I wanted to use voice control with Android Auto and Apple carplay. I asked my VW dealer to activate voice control on my Jetta MY16. They said it would cost ~$200. Although it wasn't as high as I expected I didn't end up getting it.

            What I found out though was that when using Android Auto and Carplay if you hold the VC button down for 2 seconds it will actually activate the Android Auto and carplay voice recognition system. If you just press it once it gives the same 'activation required' message that everyone talks about. The VW dealership and service centre didn't know about this either.

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            • #216
              Originally posted by shihantha View Post
              Just thought I would share something I picked up on voice control. I wanted to use voice control with Android Auto and Apple carplay. I asked my VW dealer to activate voice control on my Jetta MY16. They said it would cost ~$200. Although it wasn't as high as I expected I didn't end up getting it.

              What I found out though was that when using Android Auto and Carplay if you hold the VC button down for 2 seconds it will actually activate the Android Auto and carplay voice recognition system. If you just press it once it gives the same 'activation required' message that everyone talks about. The VW dealership and service centre didn't know about this either.
              Hey thanks shihantha. I'll give this a shot.
              White MY17 Golf 7R with DSG and DAP.

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              • #217
                Yes your recollection is correct though i believe it is also an option overseas. I think it costs approx $400 to have your voice control switched on. It is confusing why VW do this as in other models like the Beetle and Tiguan the voice control is standard. Probably just a money grab as the Golf is a high volume seller.

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                • #218
                  Originally posted by shihantha View Post
                  Just thought I would share something I picked up on voice control. I wanted to use voice control with Android Auto and Apple carplay. I asked my VW dealer to activate voice control on my Jetta MY16. They said it would cost ~$200. Although it wasn't as high as I expected I didn't end up getting it.

                  What I found out though was that when using Android Auto and Carplay if you hold the VC button down for 2 seconds it will actually activate the Android Auto and carplay voice recognition system. If you just press it once it gives the same 'activation required' message that everyone talks about. The VW dealership and service centre didn't know about this either.
                  This also works with Apple phones and Siri. Hold down the Voice button for a second and if you've got Apple CarPlay going it will activate Siri.


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                  • #219
                    Originally posted by prn31 View Post
                    So when I purchased my GTI PP I got the Voice Activation SD Card thrown in free of charge. Only problem was they didn't have it in stock when I picked up the car.

                    I've just been told by the dealership that the SD Card is on back order from Germany. There are none in the country. Guess that with the MY16 MIB II using an activation code for Voice Control there is no need for the SD Card to be kept in stock.....

                    Another quick question. Does the Discover Media unit have HDD capacity like the RNS 510? If both SD card holders have the Navigation and Voice Control loaded I presume you can't load any music via an SD card?
                    You can load music onto an SD card (say, MP3s) and as long as the card is in there you can play the music via Media. But it won't download the music to the car - remove the SD card and you can no longer play music.

                    I believe the same applies when you put a memory stick into the USB port under the head unit.


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                    • #220
                      So finally I have my Voice Control "package" from my VW dealer. Because I'm in Sydney and the car was purchased from the country, it came via the post. No dramas I thought, I'll just insert the SD card and I will have Voice Control!

                      However, when I opened the "DVD case" my heart sank when I realised that I've been sent an Activation Code that needs to be entered by an authorised workshop. The part number is 5G0.054.802, which from my review of this thread can only be used for MY16 MIB2 and not on my MY15 MIB1. Am I correct in my thinking? Does anyone have the part no. for the Voice Activation SD Card?

                      I'm getting my Passat R36 serviced next week at Volks Muller, so I can see whether they can activate the Voice Command on the Golf, but I'm not confident that they can put an activation code into an MIB1. Am I wrong??

                      Paul
                      Biscay Blue MY10.5 Passat R36 Wagon
                      Options: Sunroof, RNS510 Sat Nav, Dynaudio, Power Tailgate, ACC, RVC, BT 9w7, Tint and Factory Towbar.
                      Atlantic Blue MY19.5 Golf GTI
                      Options: Luxury Package and Sound & Style Package.

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                      • #221
                        So I've been doing a bit more reading on the subject.

                        My Golf is a May 15 build, which is the first month of the MIB1 with the V3 "0031" SD cards, according to one of the other forums. I believe this had the updated Voice Commands. I know my Golf started with the 0031 version of ROW 2015 maps, which I've since successfully updated to ROW 2016.

                        Is it possible that it was at this time they changed from an SD card to a Voice Activation code for Voice Command. I think that the part number 5G0.054.802 is the same regardless of whether you have an SD card or activation code.

                        Am I over-reacting or should I just see whether the Activation Code will work on my MY15 MIB1?
                        Biscay Blue MY10.5 Passat R36 Wagon
                        Options: Sunroof, RNS510 Sat Nav, Dynaudio, Power Tailgate, ACC, RVC, BT 9w7, Tint and Factory Towbar.
                        Atlantic Blue MY19.5 Golf GTI
                        Options: Luxury Package and Sound & Style Package.

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                        • #222
                          So I got my local dealer (not the selling dealer) to activate my Voice Control using the Activation Code. This was free of charge because it was optioned with my car when we bought it. The no-charge invoice actually mentions 'install SD card', but as it is the same part number then I guess it makes sense.

                          I waited over an hour. I didn't ask any details about how it was done, so I presume the Activation Code worked. I guess the selling dealer would have quoted the VIN chassis number when ordering the part, and the Activation Code was correct for the V3 MIB1.

                          Anyway it does work. But as it is my wife's car I won't get a chance to use it much, but as long as it works for her then it will be worthwhile. It will be interesting to compare it to the Voice Control in the RNS510 in my Passat.
                          Biscay Blue MY10.5 Passat R36 Wagon
                          Options: Sunroof, RNS510 Sat Nav, Dynaudio, Power Tailgate, ACC, RVC, BT 9w7, Tint and Factory Towbar.
                          Atlantic Blue MY19.5 Golf GTI
                          Options: Luxury Package and Sound & Style Package.

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                          • #223
                            Discover media voice control

                            Hi, I have a 2016 highline with the discover media unit...
                            Has anyone been able to activate the voice operation without paying $418 to a dealer?
                            Thanks in advance

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                            • #224
                              Originally posted by will08caddy View Post
                              Hi, I have a 2016 highline with the discover media unit...
                              Has anyone been able to activate the voice operation without paying $418 to a dealer?
                              Thanks in advance
                              It needs to talk back to Germany HQ for the activation to happen. If my memory serves me correctly...

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                              • #225
                                ^^^^^ Yep this is true!! There are two scenarios: For older model MIB units, additional VC software was required which the dealer provided via an SD card, but for newer MIB units, Voice Control software was already programmed into the car. In either scenario though, FAZIT was needed to validate the "activation-code" (which was VIN specific). There is also a teak to the control module coding at address hex5F that needs to occur: Byte 24, Bit 1 needs to be set

                                Don
                                Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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