Mk7 Golf GTI Discussion Thread

[Dutch77]

I've been told today by colleagues and people around me that if I change the spring on a magnetic damper, it could lead to detrimental outcomes to the damper itself in the long run as the damper was designed for a certain spring rate and certain size and changing it would just destroy it. After a long and hard discussion they've finally convinced me to stay stock with the springs or change it out fully with KW. (Go hard or go home)

Now the question is, can I live with the gap between the body and the tyres

In theory you're going to potentially damage things with any spring change, I must admit all my research was based on a non-DCC Mk6 so didn't spend much time on the DCC impact.

However it was my understanding that VWR springs were DCC compliant on the Mk6 and no reason why not on the Mk7. I am sure Guy would be more than happy to discuss his findings on his Mk7 GTI. So with zero guarantees I'd suggest you can still be very open on the idea of just a spring change, particularly if your main goal is the wheel gap.

I've just recently contacted my local dealer for Milltek and asked for a quote price on their catback+muffler and turboback, if the price is within reasonable I think I might go for the catback+muffler as my dealer said it doesn't void my warranty if those are the only thing that's changed. Can anyone back me up on this? or is he just saying crap.

In theory any change can void warranty, although as per every other thread about this on here it needs to be proven that the change caused the fault. Changing the catback only on these cars is a noise/sound thing only, so it would be hard to void any warranty for just that change, but no 100% guarantees. Going turbo back obviously changes things and certainly increases the warranty risk, and if the Mk6 is anything to go by will usually require a tune change to clear any CEL from the free flow cat etc. sometimes an O2 spacer can work, but I guess that's a separate thread.

The millteks have a nice finish and good rep - although they seem to be considered to quiet resonated, and too loud unresonated. Like ride quality though, this is a subjective thing (yes I spent too much time researching this on the Mk6 as well before settling for my 42dd dump).

[Dutch77]

However it was my understanding that VWR springs were DCC compliant on the Mk6 and no reason why not on the Mk7. I am sure Guy would be more than happy to discuss his findings on his Mk7 GTI. So with zero guarantees I'd suggest you can still be very open on the idea of just a spring change, particularly if your main goal is the wheel gap.

From the wheel thread, further confirmation from VWR that the springs are ok with DDC:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f197/official-mk7-wheel-thread-96140-post1054837.html#post1054837

Although again a quick PM or email to Guy would support this.

[wasabiz]

Mk7 Golf GTI Discussion Thread

Just received a quote for the milltek turbo back, $3600 ( AUD is on the weaker side as of this moment) with free installation if he gets to take picture of my car and use it as promo for his website. Hnggggg that price is abit steep for exhaust system which can't be tuned yet. Maybe I should wait for APR tune to be released and go straight to stage 2 instead of doing it incrementally

[Jimi]

Will the diff on the PP be able to handle a stage 2?

[Dutch77]

Just received a quote for the milltek turbo back, $3600 ( AUD is on the weaker side as of this moment) with free installation if he gets to take picture of my car and use it as promo for his website. Hnggggg that price is abit steep for exhaust system which can't be tuned yet. Maybe I should wait for APR tune to be released and go straight to stage 2 instead of doing it incrementally

Ouch, what's the reasoning for choosing Milltek (besides it being a quality product)?

If you're contemplating paying that kind of coin for a full exhaust I have to assume you want some noise - in which case I'd be inclined, particularly if you're thinking APR for the tune, to go for the Mk7 APR TBE when it is released. I'd assume it will come with the usual RSC stuff so while loud, it shouldn't drone, and probably would be back around the $3k mark per Mk6.

[Dutch77]

Will the diff on the PP be able to handle a stage 2?

Funnily enough I queried this point way back when.. http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...tml#post949134

At the time of its information release VW were happy it could handle up to 187kW. I don't know if that has now changed, and I never really got an answer, but assume there must be ways to make it work. If not, the PP would not be an ideal base to work off for enhancements then.

[Jimi]

Milltek have a 312hp GTI and they chose to work off the non-PP version

First drive: Milltek Golf GTI - BBC Top Gear

(I would have loved the PP as I don't have any intention to tune but the lack of a manual was the deal breaker)

[pologti18t]

Funnily enough I queried this point way back when.. http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...tml#post949134

At the time of its information release VW were happy it could handle up to 187kW. I don't know if that has now changed, and I never really got an answer, but assume there must be ways to make it work. If not, the PP would not be an ideal base to work off for enhancements then.

The Seat Leon Cupra 280 has the diff. 280 is the power output in horsepower.

[Jimi]

Good point, and VW wouldn't want to be pushing the limits with a stock car. So I'd say it's 210kw plus at least 20% (i.e. 250kw/330hp)

[Dutch77]

The Seat Leon Cupra 280 has the diff. 280 is the power output in horsepower.

Good point.

FWIW the special diff or VAQ in Volkswagen speak was originally tested at the 24 hour Nurburgring race over a few years in, I suspect, something carrying a fair bit of power. Fair to say that both versions of the GTI will be good to go for performance tuning.

[wasabiz]

Ouch, what's the reasoning for choosing Milltek (besides it being a quality product)?

If you're contemplating paying that kind of coin for a full exhaust I have to assume you want some noise - in which case I'd be inclined, particularly if you're thinking APR for the tune, to go for the Mk7 APR TBE when it is released. I'd assume it will come with the usual RSC stuff so while loud, it shouldn't drone, and probably would be back around the $3k mark per Mk6.

Not deciding on anything just yet. I'm weighing my options right now and waiting for reviews.

The APR tune and TBE is probably where I will end up in the future but for now, I'm just asking around.
And as for the why Milltek? well..... it's nice to be different than everyone else wouldn't it? :p Alot of people would just go for the APR (maybe just my illusion thinking).

[Dutch77]

Not deciding on anything just yet. I'm weighing my options right now and waiting for reviews.

The APR tune and TBE is probably where I will end up in the future but for now, I'm just asking around.
And as for the why Milltek? well..... it's nice to be different than everyone else wouldn't it? :p Alot of people would just go for the APR (maybe just my illusion thinking).

Fair call, and agree it can be good to be different. The reviews will be interesting, great looking system but the Mk6 resonated had a few comments of too quiet, whereas non-resonated was quite loud and droney. But of course that's all subjective - ditto the noise level of the APR TBE.

Given time I'm sure there will be a lot of options per the Mk6 with the Euro systems more subdued and the US systems generally louder.

I'd probably be inclined to go dump only again myself.. except as I've made it clear, I'm not modding.

[wasabiz]

I'd probably be inclined to go dump only again myself.. except as I've made it clear, I'm not modding.

That's what you say now.... wink wink

[Dutch77]

That's what you say now.... wink wink

Well as long as we aren't counting wheels.. my 6 week Italian order turned into a less than 2 week wait and hit Sydney yesterday and will be with me next week. First set in the country..

We'll see where the tunes and exhaust systems go on the Mk7. I only twigged yesterday why it's been so slow on that front - the Yanks haven't got their GTIs yet, although their release is impending. I'd expect the market to be very interesting heading towards the end of the year on the mod front.

[wasabiz]

Well as long as we aren't counting wheels.. my 6 week Italian order turned into a less than 2 week wait and hit Sydney yesterday and will be with me next week. First set in the country..

We'll see where the tunes and exhaust systems go on the Mk7. I only twigged yesterday why it's been so slow on that front - the Yanks haven't got their GTIs yet, although their release is impending. I'd expect the market to be very interesting heading towards the end of the year on the mod front.

Can't wait to see your new shoes when you have em on later. Yeah, gotta see how well the tunes gonna hold up over time, it is a fairly new car. Do you think a DSG tune is necessary?