Mk7 Golf GTI Discussion Thread

[kennyc]

I second what the others have said, DAP is fantastic and the AID is a must. Having the map in the dash is fantastic.
The leather is also very comfortable, I can't have a car without it these days, it's fantastic during winter. Just turn on the heated seats and enjoy!

If you can afford it, get it all! Really does feel premium and you won't be sorry. I just wish I had Dynaudio, so that will be a bonus for you!

[CaptainCaveMan]

Thanks guys - what's a reasonable discount to aim for if I go for fully optioned?? Or is it one of those cases where the price is the price is the price.... the VW configurator comes out at about $57k

[frostywinter]

you could get a mk 7.5 R for around 59K

[bgroper]

You can get a ~ 6 month old Mk7 R for sub $50K, drive away. All extras included, sunroof, DAP, etc.

[CaptainCaveMan]

You can get a ~ 6 month old Mk7 R for sub $50K, drive away. All extras included, sunroof, DAP, etc.

Yes but I don't actually want an R (hard to believe I know)

I have test driven both and actually preferred the GTI, for the following reasons:
- Larger boot capacity more practical for my needs
- Don't really like the artificially enhanced engine noise, it just isn't my cup of tea (I'm getting old maybe)
- My kids can't learn to drive in an R because of the HPV classification

[Dutch77]

Thanks guys - what's a reasonable discount to aim for if I go for fully optioned?? Or is it one of those cases where the price is the price is the price.... the VW configurator comes out at about $57k

You should be aiming for low $50s for that car, albeit with limited stock there might be a bit of a wait.

If you're not getting the discount it's an ugly proposition when compared to the R; I'm surprised the 47 litres would be critical, the fake GTI noise is as bad as the R but granted if the kids need to drive then you have no choice.

The GTI proposition adds up in base spec or perhaps one of the options you've looked at.. or again re-consider a low mileage Mk7 and save a packet.. under $35k leaves plenty in the bank (although I'm not the person to talk to about being so logical).

[llanfachreth]

Yes but I don't actually want an R (hard to believe I know)

I have test driven both and actually preferred the GTI, for the following reasons:
- Larger boot capacity more practical for my needs
- Don't really like the artificially enhanced engine noise, it just isn't my cup of tea (I'm getting old maybe)
- My kids can't learn to drive in an R because of the HPV classification

You should be aiming for low $50s for that car, albeit with limited stock there might be a bit of a wait.

If you're not getting the discount it's an ugly proposition when compared to the R; I'm surprised the 47 litres would be critical, the fake GTI noise is as bad as the R but granted if the kids need to drive then you have no choice.

The GTI proposition adds up in base spec or perhaps one of the options you've looked at.. or again re-consider a low mileage Mk7 and save a packet.. under $35k leaves plenty in the bank (although I'm not the person to talk to about being so logical).

Agreed. I have a 2014 Performance GTI for sale. PM me if interested. Cheers

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Volkswagen-Golf-2014/SSE-AD-4810572?_ga=2.19587064.1137687315.1498559579-1683156660.1495377207

[CaptainCaveMan]

[QUOTE=llanfachreth;1245669]Agreed. I have a 2014 Performance GTI for sale. PM me if interested. Cheers

I take on board what you guys are saying, and it's giving me a lot of food for thought - thank you.

I guess part of my thinking is that I like to keep my cars for a long time, i.e. 10 years, and so I worry that the Golf R is not a long term prospect because of kids, etc. If I were only planning to keep the car for 4 or 5 years, then the Golf R would perhaps be more interesting (my eldest child is only 11 so won't be driving for another 5 years).

If you're selling a 2014 performance GTI then I am curious, is it cost effective to only hold cars like these for a few years? I was worried that the depreciation would kill me. Or is it better to sell them as soon as the warranty period is up? (I don't intend to be critical here at all, I'm just curious to understand how things work at this end of the market as it's unfamiliar territory for me coming from a 2.0 TDI)

[llanfachreth]

[QUOTE=CaptainCaveMan;1245700]

Agreed. I have a 2014 Performance GTI for sale. PM me if interested. Cheers

I take on board what you guys are saying, and it's giving me a lot of food for thought - thank you.

I guess part of my thinking is that I like to keep my cars for a long time, i.e. 10 years, and so I worry that the Golf R is not a long term prospect because of kids, etc. If I were only planning to keep the car for 4 or 5 years, then the Golf R would perhaps be more interesting (my eldest child is only 11 so won't be driving for another 5 years).

If you're selling a 2014 performance GTI then I am curious, is it cost effective to only hold cars like these for a few years? I was worried that the depreciation would kill me. Or is it better to sell them as soon as the warranty period is up? (I don't intend to be critical here at all, I'm just curious to understand how things work at this end of the market as it's unfamiliar territory for me coming from a 2.0 TDI)

I'm simply selling my GTI as I'm buying an R Wagon. Also as I'm buying through my business for tax reasons. Nothing to do with warranty, I've never had any issues with it.

[CaptainCaveMan]

[QUOTE=llanfachreth;1245719]

I'm simply selling my GTI as I'm buying an R Wagon. Also as I'm buying through my business for tax reasons. Nothing to do with warranty, I've never had any issues with it.

R Wagon looks like it would be an excellent family car - good choice.

[gregozedobe]

... I am curious, is it cost effective to only hold cars like these for a few years? I was worried that the depreciation would kill me. Or is it better to sell them as soon as the warranty period is up? (I don't intend to be critical here at all, I'm just curious to understand how things work at this end of the market as it's unfamiliar territory for me coming from a 2.0 TDI)

Generally speaking, the biggest hit in depreciation comes when you first drive your new car off the selling dealer's lot, then the car continues to lose value in the first year, and loses lesser amounts each year after that. True "collectors cars" don't always follow that trend, but I don't see many Golfs as true "collectors cars" as most are made and sold in too large a numbers to be really rare and in high demand. I look at any car I am likely to buy as a depreciating asset that also costs money to maintain properly.

The initial batch of Golf R Wolfsburg editions (sold in 2014/15) seemed to hold their value better than regular Golfs, probably because we were told they were a strictly limited edition and no more would be sold once they were all gone. Now that a second batch of Wolfsburgs has gone on sale the price of the previous batch may or may not go down - time will tell.

Generally speaking, a car with some warranty (even if it is an extended warranty) will be easier to sell, but may not fetch all that much more than an equal car without warranty.

If you are researching prices of second hand Golfs, note that like many big-ticket items, the asking price is often higher than what they actually sell for, both at dealers and in private sales.

[Dutch77]

Some interesting comments.

If you're looking to hold onto a car for a long time then just buy exactly what you want, regardless of cost.

I get bored quickly so turn my cars over way to often, but I enjoy them so don't mind spending the cash to do it. I once held a car for three years.. just.. and ironically that was my Mk6 GTI.

The first batch of Wolfsburgs held some value for the wagons because some people were under the mistaken belief there would never be more coming - so there was a fair old premium on them. Anyone who was paying a premium for the hatch was just confused.. it's a badge pack, nothing special about it.

I'd also not pay a cent extra for a car with extended warranty cough cough insurance, unless it was genuine factory warranty.

Outside of the elite collectibles, anything new is a money pit in depreciation and even if the Australian tax payer can help offset some of that, it's still your net dollars going out the door.

But.. I don't care.

[pologti18t]

GTI Original (3 door) – $37,490/$39,990 (man/DSG)
GTI (5 door) – $41,490/$43,990 (man/DSG)
GTI Performance Edition 1 (3 door) – $47,990 (DSG)

You lose

Notable omissions from the five-door GTI's features list include adaptive chassis control, keyless entry/start and ambient lighting and sat nav. Doesn't look to be such good value.

[Splashalot]

GTI Original (3 door) – $37,490/$39,990 (man/DSG)
GTI (5 door) – $41,490/$43,990 (man/DSG)
GTI Performance Edition 1 (3 door) – $47,990 (DSG)

You lose

Notable omissions from the five-door GTI's features list include adaptive chassis control, keyless entry/start and ambient lighting and sat nav. Doesn't look to be such good value.

A good option for those who can't quite afford or justify a GTI. But for me, ACC alone is worth the $4,000 difference.

I suspect this is VW trying to minimise the sales impact of the upcoming i30n.

[arebeeyo]

Mk7 Golf GTI Discussion Thread

Hey guys, I know this has been covered a fair bit elsewhere but I’m not the most technically minded person!

Just picked up a 2015 GTI and wondering if there are any recommended retrofits for either the newer Discovery Pro media unit (mine is pre-Apple CarPlay for example), or an upgrade to Dynaudio gear?

Is there anywhere in Perth that do these types of upgrades? What kind of dollars are we looking at?