Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[Flipper]

I went to see my dealer to make sure my GTI will be right for delivery next week and he said April 12 for the R as well, with training just before that.

[Mikey1]

That would be great news as I'm getting sick of waiting.

To see the car in person and how VW prices it.

Pricing will likely not be announced until 10/04/14. The good news is that the pricing strategy should be similar to the GTI where the MQB platform helped contain pricing to just $1,000 more than the outgoing Mk6. This translates to $50,990 for manual and $53,490 for DSG. For Victorian customers, if you choose a manual with all 3 factory options, this should keep the total price for stamp duty calculation below the LCT threshold of $60,316 based on current rates. This will realise a saving of at least $1200. Here's the link to the VIC motor vehicle stamp duty calculator for you to play with: State Revenue Office Victoria - Calculator (Motor Vehicle Duty)

[Boost]

Pricing will likely not be announced until 10/04/14. The good news is that the pricing strategy should be similar to the GTI where the MQB platform helped contain pricing to just $1,000 more than the outgoing Mk6. This translates to $50,990 for manual and $53,490 for DSG. For Victorian customers, if you choose a manual with all 3 factory options, this should keep the total price for stamp duty calculation below the LCT threshold of $60,316 based on current rates. This will realise a saving of at least $1200. Here's the link to the VIC motor vehicle stamp duty calculator for you to play with: State Revenue Office Victoria - Calculator (Motor Vehicle Duty)

I was actually a bit more pessimistic and factored in $53,990, on an increased of $1,500 for the DSG. When I enquired about the corporate discount on the GTI, one dealer said it pretty much just the cost of the dealer delivery while another said they reduce the list price of the base car by 5%. Suffice to say I'm still unsure so let's assume they take off 5%, that will reduce the base DSG to $51,300.

Add all 3 options assume same price as for GTI: leather $3,150, sunroof $1,850, driver assist $1,300

And the total before on roads equates to $57,600. Stamp duty/rego in NSW should be around $3,000.

Dealer delivery is around $3,000 for most dealers and at launch I'm not sure you can negotiate much off this.

So with corporate discount I would say for those of us in NSW the drive away price would not exceed $63,600.

I don't think the R will be subject to lux car tax Mikey1, understand that for fuel efficient cars with a combined consumption of 7lt per 100km or less the threshold jumps to about $75,350. The R in DSG is 6.9 and the manual is 7lt so I'd say the higher threshold would apply to both transmissions.

[HPSOV]

So with corporate discount

Who is eligible for the corporate discount?

[Alex31]

Yes who does eligible for the corporate discount? I can get corporate discount at Audi but not Vw. I think this is strange.


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[Mikey1]

Who is eligible for the corporate discount?

The corporate program is available to eligible employees of the top 200 ASX listed companies by way of market capitalisation. However, the Volkswagen fleet manager who looks after the company I work for advised the new Golf R will be excluded from the corporate program. I suspect this might not have been communicated to the dealers or their sales staff yet. However, don’t let this exclusion put you off from asking for a discount of at least 5% straight off the dealer’s on-road price. As is always the message in this game, shop around.

[andrew7]

Corp pricing on my MK6 GTI (govt employer, Novated lease) gave me 10% of RRP plus reduced dealer delivery. I'd be aiming for 5-10% on the R or base s3 irrespective of corp pricing (Audi offers 3 years free servicing as well)

[Boost]

Will definitely have to negotiate regardless of whether corporate discount is available for the R.

I mean you add leather seats to the R and its within $3k of the S3 plus Audi gives you 3yrs free servicing with their corporate package.

[andrew7]

Agree Boost S3 pricing uncomfortably close IMO

[Mikey1]

Will definitely have to negotiate regardless of whether corporate discount is available for the R.

I mean you add leather seats to the R and its within $3k of the S3 plus Audi gives you 3yrs free servicing with their corporate package.

I'm not sure if comparing the Golf R with the base S3 on price is fair due to a difference in standard specification of each. For example, the adaptive suspension, or magnetic ride control in Audi language, is a $1600 option on its own. Metallic or pearl paint another $1050, rear seat load through $400 and privacy glass another $700. There is no 19" wheel option for those who may want this. Audi charge a lot more for dealer delivery, unless on corporate program. I know the Audi MMI is superior to the crap VW Discover Media, but these are the performance models in the range, and the priority should be on that.

[lenojd]

I'm not sure if comparing the Golf R with the base S3 on price is fair due to a difference in standard specification of each. For example, the adaptive suspension, or magnetic ride control in Audi language, is a $1600 option on its own. Metallic or pearl paint another $1050, rear seat load through $400 and privacy glass another $700. There is no 19" wheel option for those who may want this. Audi charge a lot more for dealer delivery, unless on corporate program. I know the Audi MMI is superior to the crap VW Discover Media, but these are the performance models in the range, and the priority should be on that.

I think the difference will be pushing ~10k for a full spec R v full spec S3 (taking into account discounting or no discount ie like for like in that regard).

It will therefore come done to personal circumstances and tastes as to whether the 10k is enough to justify the step up or not.

For me, I am happy with the extra ~10k (assuming it is about that).

I had a MK6 R on order about a year ago which fell through and since it was at the end of the line, I was unable to find another in the spec/colour I wanted.

In hindsight, I think it was a blessing in disguise for a few reasons.

- Firstly, I no need an auto/DSG as it will be the family car and the R on order was another manual
- Whilst at the time I was happy with a fairly low spec R, since the new car will be a family car for myself and the wife, I want a full spec'd car with all the bells and whistles
- Coming from a MKV GTI, I've realised I definitely want something that feels nicer and more modern inside.. unfortunately IMO, the MK7 (GTI nor R) doesn't feel like a step up enough inside
- I am not bothered by the 18" wheels on the S3 and actually think that in my situation i'd rather 18" than 19"

So with that being said the S3 is a better package in for me in my situation. That is before taking into account the fact that there are incremental bits which the R just can't do/match.. like the much better sound system (B+O), LED lights, far superior Audi MMI, nicer sport seats, plus general nicer feel inside

(and I think it's a better looking car)

So in reality the ~10k is more like 5k and I/we can justify that.

Like I said earlier though, everyone is different (obviously) and with different tastes, preferences, priorities so congrats on your order Mikey1 and to anyone else who has a R on order or is thinking about getting one. I know if I was to rewind time a few years, I'd more than likely be buying the R (with 19" etc) than the S3!

Either way, they're both going to be a great buy and I think it's good we have fairly similar yet distinctly different cars in somewhat similar price ranges to chose from!

[Mikey1]

Thanks "lenojd" for the mention. I wish you luck in getting a fully kitted S3 for not much more than $70K. I passed on an offer for $74.2K, which I thought was pretty good, as the full on-road cost was $78.7K. That would have been a $5.7% discount. I estimate $73K would have been the absolute best if I wanted the S3. For me that's still $11K more for a manual R with the lot before any discounting on the R applies.

[Longy]

Thanks "lenojd" for the mention. I wish you luck in getting a fully kitted S3 for not much more than $70K. I passed on an offer for $74.2K, which I thought was pretty good, as the full on-road cost was $78.7K. That would have been a $5.7% discount. I estimate $73K would have been the absolute best if I wanted the S3. For me that's still $11K more for a manual R with the lot before any discounting on the R applies.

What are you classifying "fully kitted" out S3? One with the S performance package as a definite, and if that was it, the drive away price is just under $66k then add on the $4800 S performance pack which gives you a price of approx $71k, but for those that are actually serious about buying the car rather than just a curious price query, you will find that you can negotiate a discount of approx 8%, which gives you a price just under $64k drive away.

[Mikey1]

What are you classifying "fully kitted" out S3? One with the S performance package as a definite, and if that was it, the drive away price is just under $66k then add on the $4800 S performance pack which gives you a price of approx $71k, but for those that are actually serious about buying the car rather than just a curious price query, you will find that you can negotiate a discount of approx 8%, which gives you a price just under $64k drive away.

Fully kitted = every option except privacy glass, roof rails and black exterior styling package. Can you please support your claim by posting a copy of a quote. If true, then I will gladly walk away from my pre-order and sign-up to a S3. Who wouldn't at the price!! I assume from your signature, you received an 8% discount on your S3 sedan. Congrats if you did. I'm sure forum members reading this will now visit their local Audi dealer with renewed enthusiasm.

[Dutch77]

The corporate program is available to eligible employees of the top 200 ASX listed companies by way of market capitalisation. However, the Volkswagen fleet manager who looks after the company I work for advised the new Golf R will be excluded from the corporate program. I suspect this might not have been communicated to the dealers or their sales staff yet. However, don’t let this exclusion put you off from asking for a discount of at least 5% straight off the dealer’s on-road price. As is always the message in this game, shop around.

The corporate discount is open to more than just the top ASX200 companies, I had it on my previous order that fell through and enquiry this time around as well and I never have or will work for one of those companies. Can't comment on the lack of an R benefit, but the discount I negotiated on my GTI turned out to be a lot more than my initial enquiry under the corporate discount - although this time around it was definitely well under 10% so there may be varied levels.