VW Scirocco for Australia. Any Golf R buyers thinking of swapping?

[Tim]

Anyways... How about that scirocco hey.. Im quite excited that we might be seeing it soon.

[kaanage]

C'mon corey, it isn't as easy or as practical as a 5dr, expecially in a carparks where you can't open the longer doors enough. Even cleaning the car would be annoying with the longer doors.

His logic is not our Earth logic.

Bring on the 'Roc - then the 3 door Golfs will be even more exclusive

[Corey_R]

C'mon corey, it isn't as easy or as practical as a 5dr, expecially in a carparks where you can't open the longer doors enough. Even cleaning the car would be annoying with the longer doors.

Nor is the 5 door Golf as easy or as practical as the Skoda Superb wagon, or most SUV's (not that I think SUV's should be in suburbia) etc. It's just that the way you guys are talking, it makes me wonder some of you guys are terribly over weight, unhealthily inflexible, and have incredible weak arms.

Maybe it's just that you haven't looked at a modern 3 door car such as the Golf GTI, and you're thinking back to your childhoods with crappy 3 door Hondas and Toyotas (or even worse...).

In the end. It's my opinion, and no one here can tell me that I cannot carry a baby safely into the back of a 3 door Golf, because I can and have done. In fact, I've safely carried much heavier, larger, and more fragile objects than babies into the back of my 3 door cars (yes, I understand that if you break a baby, it's a little more serious than breaking an inanimate object, regardless of the cost of that object.)

Anyways... How about that scirocco hey.. Im quite excited that we might be seeing it soon.

What's the Scirocco got to do with this thread? It's even the wrong forum. This thread is how many people would be dropping their Golf R orders

Any serious talk about the Scirocco would be, by definition, off topic, lol

[Jasonpb]

Yep, it's not worth having to sell a car for something so silly when you could have the exact same car in 5dr and not worry.

The room in the back is basically the same don't think it matters.

Just have to get which one you want, but it's not like the 3dr version is really 10x better as made out.

You're correct it's not 10x better it's 100x better, the lines of the 5door golf just didn't really do it for me, then I saw the 3 door in person and knew I couldn't purchase anything else!

I think Corey is right in that most of you mustn't have seen more modern 3 door cars like the GTI/R as it's one latch at the top of the seat that slides it forward, angles the chair forward and returns it to the stock position, it probably gives you a wider opening IMO than the rear door does in the 5 door golf.

As for the baby argument, why would you be putting your baby in a Golf R or GTI in the first place? I am sure there's plenty of safer cars out there, ones that don't tempt you to go fast and ones that are a lot easier to get into.

[Big_Dave]

mate thats all the data that was on a post on a different forum, didn't put it together, just posted it here, wasn't even aware of ring times

No Probs nath.
As Twain wrote "Lies, damned lies and statistics"
They are both great cars, different tracks will appeal to each other for obvious reasons.

[kaanage]

I think Corey is right in that most of you mustn't have seen more modern 3 door cars like the GTI/R as it's one latch at the top of the seat that slides it forward, angles the chair forward and returns it to the stock position, it probably gives you a wider opening IMO than the rear door does in the 5 door golf.

As for the baby argument, why would you be putting your baby in a Golf R or GTI in the first place? I am sure there's plenty of safer cars out there, ones that don't tempt you to go fast and ones that are a lot easier to get into.

My 306, circa 1995, had that. Back then, I didn't care about inconveniencing rear passengers and it wasn't a hassle for every day use although it did make life a bit harder when loading/unloading my race gear and big heavy speakers (batchelor life...).

As for babies and fun, well kids are not a death sentence to having fun, especially since they're not in the car 100% of the time.

And as for the capsule being off to the side, we placed ours in the center of the rear seat for extra impact crush space, just in case the worst happened.

The Sirocco looks so much better than a Golf in the metal that VW is rightly worried that it would steal some GTi (and R) sales but since a quarter of the Golfs sold are GTi's, it should still be a viable model but I still think the 3 door sales could well drop below what VW deems as worthwhile to bring in.

I prefer an understated 'Q' car but the 5 door Golf does that even better, even if I were in the market for this sort of car.

[Corey_R]

And as for the capsule being off to the side, we placed ours in the center of the rear seat for extra impact crush space, just in case the worst happened.

Aah, that makes more sense of why you're saying there's not enough room to maneuver in the rear seat. That's possibly not a bad idea with the old-fashioned Australian anchored seats - as long as the centre seat "hump" isn't too great that it makes it less stable (so I'm not sure that the centre would be suitable in a GTI or R due to this).

If we were allowed to use ISOFIX seats in this country, they'd have to go on the sides... but that's another story.

[G-rig]

Nor is the 5 door Golf as easy or as practical as the Skoda Superb wagon, or most SUV's (not that I think SUV's should be in suburbia) etc. It's just that the way you guys are talking, it makes me wonder some of you guys are terribly over weight, unhealthily inflexible, and have incredible weak arms.

LOL Corey..

No point in comparing it to other cars..

[ethosguy]

Kids in baby capsules in modern 3 doors ain't hard either. Not too diff to putting them into a baby capsule on the floor of your house. Hold baby against your chest, lean forward (and step into the car) and place baby in from directly in front of the capsule. The step part is the only real difference when dealing with the car, yet is no troubles.... unless your hips are too wide to fit between the B Pillar and the front-seat back. In which case, you maybe should be walking some more

Admittedly, I've never had to do this with a rearward facing baby capsule... so I can't comment on that. (Although if you came in from the other side of the car to the rearward-facing-capsule, I'd imaging it's really not much diff to putting the baby into the capsule from outside a 5 door hatch, except you're sitting down instead of standing).

lol...And after about the millionth time (as opposed to having seemingly thought about it for a millionth of a second) of putting 1 or more babies/toddlers kids in a capsule/seat/booster, you might actually be an experienced expert and know what you are talk'n 'bout and be wishing for better access. lolololol...when they're asleep, tired, don't want to get strapped in, wearing the fairy dress with far too many frills, covered in spew or poo...they, kids, don't always march to our drum and couldn't be arsed about your personal image...or you're tired, sore, cranky, late parked in by the pillock beside you (with your especially long 3 door doors)...all together...you're never lookin' too cool blowin' a fuse at the little darlings...

Given the kids, I'll choose the Tiguan rather than the WRX hatch every time because the Tig is sooo much eaiser, and the WRX has 5 doors.

...should'a asked me when I was 19, I knew everything then...the more I learn, the greater my comprehension of my ignorance...

[Syd118TSI]

Standby for super-mod in 3....2......

Scirocco is a nice looking car on the road (having seen quite a few overseas), but I'd say it would appeal to a slightly different market. I don't see why it needs to be a matter of 'us vs them' with comparisons with the GTI/R, but I suppose there is that same feeling between GTI and R themselves. Choice is the winner here.

PS - I must admit I especially enjoy some of the long winded convoluted descriptions of adding and removing kids/toddlers etc into cars. Keep the chuckles rolling Corey etc!

[Mountainman]

Nor is the 5 door Golf as easy or as practical as the Skoda Superb wagon, or most SUV's (not that I think SUV's should be in suburbia)

So all the Tiguan owners need to head for the bush or trade them in on the larger Passat wagon to stay in the trendy Euro-chic surburban scene? How will that help doing a neat reverse park outside the local elite private school? I thought that would be the perfect place to show off the skills of the Tiguan.

[kaanage]

It'd help because the Passat wagon wouldn't block visibility the way the Tiguan does (not that the Tiguan is that bad vs most of the other useless SUVs bumbling about the 'burbs). Hey Corey, I'm on your side !!

What most annoys me most about the Tiguan (and the Passat for that matter) is how it gets higher spec engines than the Golf.

Back to the 'Roc, there was a guy here griping about the upcoming 77kW Golf saying such a cheap car would reflect badly on the exclusivity of the R that he was contemplating. The 'Roc would be a perfect fit for people like him.

[Corey_R]

So all the Tiguan owners need to head for the bush or trade them in on the larger Passat wagon

Yeah - get rid of SUV's from suburbia. Everyone will then be safer
And yes, the Passat is larger, for about the same price (for similarly spec'd cars). This be the silliness of the modern SUV crazy. People compromise their own and everyone else's safety, on the false believe that they're safer, and that they have more interior space.

[team_v]

Yeah - get rid of SUV's from suburbia. Everyone will then be safer

Or get everyone else to buy an SUV so we can all be safe.........

[Corey_R]

Why don't we just put everyone in MACK Trucks? Surely everyone would be even MORE safer in them?!