Retrofit of RVC to MK6 Golf

[Pepe]

With all of the passionate talk from RVC owners / non-owners recently, I thought I'd ask a question around retro-fitting the RVC option to a Golf R. As mine was a "grab a car in stock with as close to the features as I can get" car, I didn't end up with the RVC which I possibly would have optioned (then again I probably wouldn't have chosen some of the optins I did get and now love).

Anyway, can a VW dealer retro fit this as an option and if so, do you know what they would charge? Or is it purely an option that you need to purchasse the parts for and either fit yourself or get a non-dealer garage to fit?

If Pepe fancies doing a job-lot of installs in Melbourne I'd put my order in for one - $50 an hour is it Pepe? Ha Ha.

Haha, $50 hey? Hmmm...

I can't seem to find all the notes I took while doing my R, but I've got it somewhere... I'll find it in the next week or so hopefully.

A VW dealer most likely won't be able to help, as although it uses all off the shelf VW parts, it's not plug and play by any means. It involves splicing cables, etc. It really isn't difficult to do, but you do need to be careful so you don't destroy anything. There is an off the shelf harness you can buy, if you can figure out which one of the 8 variants you need; even then, you'll be doing a fair bit of work. If you want a shop to do it, I doubt you'll get a quote less than 4hrs labour (usually $150/hr). I got a quote here in Syd from everyone's favourite APR tuner and it was $1800 inc all the parts. When I got my Stage 1, I was talking to them about it and it turns out they hadn't done the install in an R yet anyway (this was back in Dec.)

[Pepe]

Good news is I've found at least some of the notes and all the pics I took during the install (seems I was comprehensive, there looks like hundreds of the buggers - no wonder it took so long).

I'll see what I can knock together in terms of a guide.

[Ryan_R]

I looked into it around October last year I think - dealers wouldn't do it, and a few independant garages that service VW's wouldn't touch it either. When it came to easier installs (GPS, satnav), they said they wouldn't install anything that wasn't purchased through them (since they charge a fair bit more for the product than the Ebay shops).

I'm living without it for now - but if I were to come across a good installation guide with photos, and a plug'n'play kit available (no cutting wires), then I'd be interested again.

[Idle]

A plug&play kit would be possible, but I can't see a market that would justify it.

Cutting wires would be $$$ cheaper, would use less wire and probably be more reliable.

Actually, once you work out where everything goes, that part of the job is one of the easier tasks.

[jumpman]

The kit I used was 95% plug and play. There was 3 wires that needed splicing. Positive, negative and the reverse trigger. The +/-, you can take straight from the rear of the existing 510 harness. The RVC harness plugged straight-in. I think the most difficult part is ripping the trim to run the cable and that was the most time consuming.

[giuseppe001]

front + rear ops and RVC with ecu Tiguan

Hello
i have GOLF V
I would install the front and rear OPS and the camera with module of Tiguan.
are they compatible ?
Tks
Giuseppe

[sdhog2002]

I think I've been through this and other related posts carefully. It may be part of the title that is the obvious answer but from what I have read, I am still unsure

Only if the car was equipped with RVC does it come with the RVC interface. So far this is across the board for all specs with the RCD 510.

The RNS 510 has one video input for a RVC camera. The RCD 510 does not unless the car was ordered with a RVC.

OPS information for display on the RNS and RCD headunits is over CAN bus so no video input is required.

Just thought I'd give some info on this on.

I just retrofitted the RVC onto my '11 Golf R with the RCD510. The car has OPS as standard.

When the RCD510 was removed, it actually has a label on the unit indicating that it was RVC compatible.

I was quite hesitant initially about the install before hand since I had not been able to find any instructions specific to Golf R and RCD510 but it turned out straight forward. Hope this helps some of you.

I am confused as to just what is possible. I do note Pepe, Ryan_R and rs73 have RNS's, so that explains their situation. It did seem that I was not going to have any joy (no RNS, not aftermarket RCD with RVC capability) but then jumpman's post inspired me again. But he has OPS, which I don't. But Maverick indicates OPS info is transmitted by the CAN bus, not the video input.

Idle, you have an R (I think) but does it have an RCD510 or an RNS?

What about me? I have a GTI off the coast of West Africa (so I cannot remove the unit and look at it) and I am VERY keen to install a RVC (wasn't on the car which I bought already on the boat). The xchange rate at present is excellent and I'd like the 'bits and bobs' here when the car arrives. Is the situation, as far as anyone knows, still that the currently installed RCD510's on non RVC equipped cars (and those without specifically ordered RVC capable aftermarket RCD's) DO NOT have video input, or has it changed (jumpman's case)?

[Corey_R]

OPS standards for Optical Parking Sensors. It's a bit of a misnomer since they're still sonar or whatever. But there is no "video" as part of that. It's just that it puts a car graphic on the RCD/RNS and then shows you visually what distance objects are being detected by each individual Park Distance Control sensor.
Therefore, what Maverick has written is correct as far as OPS/PDC using the canbus.

As for whether the RCD510 has a video input or not. I would say that as time goes by, you eventually get to the point where component prices lower to the extent where it becomes cheaper to have the video input circuitry on RCD510's even if they're not shipped with the RVC than it does to manufacturer and stock two separate products. Whether jumpman was just lucky to have a video input on his unit, or whether the time has come where only a single version is being manufactured, is anyone's guess

[jumpman]

Although it may depend on market to market, I can only comment on whats available from HK. In HK, all Mk6 TSI and GTI have OPS and RVC along with RCD510 as standard equipment. We do not have satnav for any Golf variants so there are no RNS510. All Golf R come with OPS and RCD510 as standard but no RVC. Same goes for all Sciroccos. I've seen several RCD510 pulled from the several Sciroccos now and they all have video input even though RVC was never an option (they dont have the flip rear badge)

So this is in contradiction to Maverick's comment. The RCD510 in all the Mk6 variants in HK have video input but no harness.

[rs73]

I think I've been through this and other related posts carefully. It may be part of the title that is the obvious answer but from what I have read, I am still unsure







I am confused as to just what is possible. I do note Pepe, Ryan_R and rs73 have RNS's, so that explains their situation. It did seem that I was not going to have any joy (no RNS, not aftermarket RCD with RVC capability) but then jumpman's post inspired me again. But he has OPS, which I don't. But Maverick indicates OPS info is transmitted by the CAN bus, not the video input.

Idle, you have an R (I think) but does it have an RCD510 or an RNS?

What about me? I have a GTI off the coast of West Africa (so I cannot remove the unit and look at it) and I am VERY keen to install a RVC (wasn't on the car which I bought already on the boat). The xchange rate at present is excellent and I'd like the 'bits and bobs' here when the car arrives. Is the situation, as far as anyone knows, still that the currently installed RCD510's on non RVC equipped cars (and those without specifically ordered RVC capable aftermarket RCD's) DO NOT have video input, or has it changed (jumpman's case)?

I actually had RCD510 which I manually swapped with RNS510.

But my RCD510 had the extra socket to plug the Rvc interface cable which i've confirmed fit - so they're not for some other socket I assumed.

I haven't tested if the rcd will work with rvc, might test that when I got around to installing the rvc. my gti doesn't have OPC, it's late 09 build, maybe newer version of RCD510 are indeed RVC compatible

[giuseppe001]

Hello
i have GOLF V
I would install the front and rear OPS and the camera with module of Tiguan.
are they compatible ?
Tks
Giuseppe

Hello
noone can answer ?
Tks
Giuseppe

[Corey_R]

It's hard because this is the MK6 Golf forum, and you're asking about retrofitting a MKV Golf with Tiguan parts. People can only answer if they've done it before...

I would say that if you had an RNS510 or RCD510, and then the Tiguan modules, it may have a good chance of working. But I don't know enough about the canbus and any other modules in the MKV to know whether it will work or not...

[giuseppe001]

Hello Corey,
i know that is MK6 forum.
I can say that tiguan camera+module can work in MKV and MK6 changing the car type to OFFROAD in gateway, but i don't know if will be any error after that doing the autoscan with VCDS.
I think is the same MKV or MK6.

If anyone has tried is very appreciated the feedback
Tks
Giuseppe

[sdhog2002]

Thank you jumpman and rs73. I must admit your responses are encouraging. The obvious answer is wait until my car is delivered. Maybe I'll try and find out from my dealership whether anyone knows for sure what recent RCD510's have looked like (maybe if someone recently had their stock units upgraded to RNS's.) Really would like to have what I need here when the car arrives.

[MikeB]

OK I have just ordered by RVC, cables, connectors etc from ECS. Good exchange rate so no better time (and video cable is back in stock).