MK6 GTI - Rattle upon acceleration - Resolved via TPI: 2021062/7

[Corey_R]

But their kit (at least following to the other thread linked in your thread), does not contain the Turbo-Back Exhaust, Intercooler, or Air Intake components which are required in the upgrade. This means that the cost is not quite as much as the APR Stage 3 kit, but is approaching that (in the USA it appears to be ~$5000 for the AWE kit, including AWE exhaust and intake etc, vs ~$6800 for the full blown APR Stage 3 kit - both not including installation).

[G-rig]

re: MK6 GTI - Rattle upon acceleration - Resolved via TPI: 2021062/7

Yeah it's Almost the same cost but hardly as good power as the APR stage 3. If you're gonna do it may as well do it properly as the labor would be about the same.

[REXman]

Another short recording - noise can be heard only in the first part of that video :

Second Recording

GTI-2.flv video by mirsad99 - Photobucket

That sounds terrible. I can hear it.

I have one on order, and if this is what It sounds like all the time, Im cancelling sorry.

PS - Why do some people NOT have it, If its normal? What a crock.

To be honest, I saw an STi MY09 model today, In white. With those pumped guards, and tints.. Maybe a MY11 WRX is what needs to be done after all.

No rattles there. I have OCD so something like that will annoy the **** out of me.

I will be devistated If I spend 50K on FWD car because of "quality" and I end up getting a car that rattles like its pinging its head off every time I am in the mid range, which is probably, all the time.

[G-rig]

I have one on order, and if this is what It sounds like all the time, Im cancelling sorry.

That's a bit extreme isn't it?
I'm sure a WRX would have other issues, like they are pig ugly and a cheap interior.

You could always consider a MK5 GTI or Pirelli, but then you have to keep an eye on the cam follower issue.

Anyway if enough people report it to their service manager and get it noted on their history perhaps VW may do something about it in the future.

[MurphyTheElf]

That sounds terrible. I can hear it.

I have one on order, and if this is what It sounds like all the time, Im cancelling sorry.

PS - Why do some people NOT have it, If its normal? What a crock.

To be honest, I saw an STi MY09 model today, In white. With those pumped guards, and tints.. Maybe a MY11 WRX is what needs to be done after all.

No rattles there. I have OCD so something like that will annoy the **** out of me.

I will be devistated If I spend 50K on FWD car because of "quality" and I end up getting a car that rattles like its pinging its head off every time I am in the mid range, which is probably, all the time.

I don't blame you for the reaction - it annoys the hell out of me too. But if it was a choice between the MY09 WRX and the MK VI GTI as is, I'd still choose the GTI. That god-awful hard plastic interior is not a place I want to spend my time, day in, day out.

[WhiteJames]

Tyre Roar -v- Exhaust Scavenging Resonance

The exhaust scavenging resonance is not intrusive when you drive on B’grade coarse chip bitumen – esp. when it’s the older & coarser type. Roadway roar drowns out the resonance just nicely. Although, I’d rather some exhaust resonance than tyre roar.

If the resonance is that concerning, perhaps a modified exhaust system could be an option.

Having said that, I’m always amazed how guys pay big bucks for ‘custom exhausts’ only to find it mucks up the scavenging, reducing the vehicles performance. The word ‘custom exhaust’ does have a nice ring to it.

Cheers.
WJ

[G-rig]

Having said that, I’m always amazed how guys pay big bucks for ‘custom exhausts’ only to find it mucks up the scavenging, reducing the vehicles performance. The word ‘custom exhaust’ does have a nice ring to it.

I agree, the stock exhausts are usually designed very well and just becasue people have a custom one doesn't make it better and there are usually side affects (like drone). However are there any components of the exhaust that may fix the rattle for those that are worried? Mine doesn't seem that loud and dont notice it on full load.

Custom exhausts are too 'hit and miss' especially for the R32, and they usually end up being just as or more expensive anyway.

[Corey_R]

I personally think that custom exhausts suck. I've never been in a car with a "custom exhaust" that I think the exhaust hasn't ruined the car through drone or a yuck sounding exhaust note.

However, I must say that I don't consider exhausts like APR's RSC Exhaust to be a "custom" exhaust. APR spend considerable time and effort and numerous prototypes and lots of testing to create an exhaust for each model. So while they're not the original equipment, they're not exactly a custom built for each individual car which drives into some random custom exhaust shop either.

No drone yet a raspier and sportier tone is great. The added performance required for Stage II kits is also a big bonus. I personally can't wait to hear what the APR RSC Exhaust for the Golf R will sound like.

[ddre78]

Got my GTI during the week and I can hear that noise. To me, its unacceptable. $13k cars dont have such intrusive noises. The demo I drove about 6 months ago didnt have this noise at all. If people are being told its normal, I think thats BS. Will see what my dealer says.

[REXman]

Got my GTI during the week and I can hear that noise. To me, its unacceptable. $13k cars dont have such intrusive noises. The demo I drove about 6 months ago didnt have this noise at all. If people are being told its normal, I think thats BS. Will see what my dealer says.

Very interested in how you go mate..

[REXman]

I don't blame you for the reaction - it annoys the hell out of me too. But if it was a choice between the MY09 WRX and the MK VI GTI as is, I'd still choose the GTI. That god-awful hard plastic interior is not a place I want to spend my time, day in, day out.

Yes fair call.

The GTi interior absolutely spanks the WRX for interior quality, and not to mention spec levels possible. (DynAudio, ACC, RVC etc..). Also the Leather on the GTi.. too good mate. very BMW/Audi quality. And the Seats and steering wheel, I just fell in love with.


Thanks for reminding me why i want a GTi.

[G-rig]

what can you do..

[Eclipze]

Didn't notice the noise on the demo I drove. Just went for a 20min night drive. I think I heard a whisp of it, but was straining to notice. GTI manual, 300km, 95 ron.

[REXman]

I personally think that custom exhausts suck. I've never been in a car with a "custom exhaust" that I think the exhaust hasn't ruined the car through drone or a yuck sounding exhaust note.

However, I must say that I don't consider exhausts like APR's RSC Exhaust to be a "custom" exhaust. APR spend considerable time and effort and numerous prototypes and lots of testing to create an exhaust for each model. So while they're not the original equipment, they're not exactly a custom built for each individual car which drives into some random custom exhaust shop either.

No drone yet a raspier and sportier tone is great. The added performance required for Stage II kits is also a big bonus. I personally can't wait to hear what the APR RSC Exhaust for the Golf R will sound like.

I think most professional car places in the industry do ample research, so that they add power, improve driveability and sometimes even save wieght.

Maybe you haven't been around good custom exhausts?

Hi-Tech for instance do a quality exhaust that looks and sounds great for many cars. I know they even sometimes design them with improvements (cat placement) and there high flow cats are great. They use "kitchen quality" high grade steel not that tin can crap that rusts and they never drone. I think you'd love one If you heard it. They are not cheap though. And they are not that loud either. Excellent product.

And APR's is the same thing. Its a custom exhaust. I have to ask you coreying, do you work for them cause you absolutely stand behind everything APR does?

[G-rig]

I've been burnt by custom exhausts for my R32 after getting something made up that the US guys were running and turned out to be a nightmare. Not sure if they quoted the wrong part numbers but it was undriveable. N/A is a bit different as exhausts are easier on turbos when the turbo acts as muffler to some extent. I was much better off with the Milltek Resonated and should have got it in the first place as it ended up being $300 more than the custom job.

No doubt exhausts are cheaper on Jap cars and they've been around a lot longer so people know what works. Unless the shop is very good custom exhausts are hit and miss and they wouldn't do any testing compared to APR, Milltek etc if they are just making one for a customer.

I'll probably get the RSC as well, sounds great and no drone - it's possibly slightly quieter than stock when cruising and loud when you want it to be. I'll at least be getting the downpipe setup. The goog thing with brand name stuff is you can always sell it easily later compared to a custom job where people don't think it's worth much.

The RSC is good technology - good exhausts aren't too loud and droney.

http://goapr.com.au/products/apr_exhaust_mk6_20tsi.html