Mk6 Golf Acceleration & Performance Data

[oshuyi]

That'd have to be a manual right? If not, I think they need to read the owners manual on how to use the DSG properly. Even on a wet B road, Autocar managed to get a DSG R to do 5.7 on 3 consecutive attempts in their manual vs DSG comparo video.

so is the uk golf R the same specs as our one? also they tested it 0-60mph so that's 0-97km/h

[robby_jai]

man if the Golf R are seriously that quick i should be flogging off the S3 and swapping over to the R??

[ccoops79]

0-100 expectation of a Golf R Manual with stage 1

Hey everyone,

We are beginning to get some times for the Golf R DSG with APR stage 1 upgrade and they are looking good

Can anyone tell me what would be the 0-100 expectation on a Golf R Manual with APR stage 1 approx...

Cheers.....

[G-rig]

Manual would be a bit slower for drag racing but would be interesting to see the difference.

6MT is more about driver involvement and feel, but wouldn't say it would be that much slower in the scheme of things.

[robby_jai]

if u look further at the stats the Rothe tune is lighter than the other cars and was using 100 Octane fuel. it made more hp and torque than the other cars. the rothe has also had a DSG reprogram and other work done to it.. not exactly a simple stage 1 tune and voila 0-100 in 4.3 seconds

the BTS Racing machine that hit 0-100kn/h in 4.6 seconds... is not exactly a stage 1 tune. it has had dump pipe upgrade, high flow cats, semi slicks to reach those numbers..

so if anything this article cast further doubt that with JUST a stage 1 tune you could hit 4.6 seconds. the Hohenester car is the one that fairly represents a simple stage 1 tune and what figures you would expect from a stage 1 tune car! which is realistically about 5-5.2 seconds

Anyone speak German?

VW Golf R: Tuning - autobild.de

At the bottom of the article it shows some stats. The Rothe tune looks to have achieved 4.3 second 0-100 km/h and a 12.62 second 1/4 mile.

[dave_r]

I would be more than happy to back up the results with Guy_H's data box which i believe is in Melbourne at the moment being tested on a S/C RS4.

Bugger the doubters.... how do I get my hands on the data box AND a S/C'd RS4 for a day

Anyway, I think we need to split this thread to "Golf R acceleration & performance data" as my thread is becoming a little overloaded!

I was wondering why there was a new R thread in the Golf forum I hadn't seen before but had already posted in LOL

August issue of Motor has a Golf R/Evo X comparison.
Golf R ran 0-100 in 5.37[DSG]

Fark me, impressive. Where's mine dammit

[Beena]

Jus resurrecting this old thread to see if we have progressed...

It would be nice to get some proper data down for a number of cars at different states of tune.
To help this along, I (like some others) have ordered a GTech Pro Fanatic RR (the one with the 10hz GPS and data logging) to replace my aging RaceLogic AP22.

I have a Stage 1 DSG R and easy access to a stock DSG R - both with approximately 1100km on the clock. But I figure the more data the better - so it would be great to get others to do the same and see what sort of spread we have over the cars.

For those interested, there is article written by RaceLogic on the accuracy etc of the VBox, PerformanceBox and older, non-GPS GTech like Fab_R's. Seems they are pretty accurate! The GTech with GPS should increase this to a point where there will be no need to dispute the numbers. Link to article below:

http://www.performancebox.co.uk/download/GTECHvPB_Test.pdf

[REXman]

Update on acceleration data

Well I ran my stock R on one of those RR acceleration things with the GPS.

Standard with 2 people in the car IT says 5.57 was my best time for 0-100.

The other STG 1 car ran a 5.24 with the same conditions, same bit of track climate etc (only done about 3 minutes apart).

STG 1 feels good. But no where near the claims. It feels like an extra 20KWs.

The device had us down to even less than that on the quarter mile.. So the whole 4.6 sec with a STG 1.. No chance.

Just like Robby said, there is a similar car that does a 4.36 0-100, and a 12.65 quarter!!

If a STG 1 tune even gets a 12.9.. I'd be impressed.. Correction.. I would not believe it.

Mid 13 sec car all day. About 0.3 quicker. That's where it ends. Maybe even a late 13 sec car actually.

If you have a STG 1, and do crack a 12 get your time slip and post it up. actually if you crack anything on the drag strip I would love to know what you get.

Oh and PS, I own one and would love a porsche for $65K.

[Fab_R]

Hi REXman,

Would love to know the conditions etc...

Like amb temp, road condition, straight, curved, any inclines etc....How many runs in each car, and in the opposite direction if any?

Im getting hold of the Vbox this week for some testing which i will video as well.

I will post the times up.

[REXman]

Hi REXman,

Would love to know the conditions etc...

Like amb temp, road condition, straight, curved, any inclines etc....How many runs in each car, and in the opposite direction if any?

Im getting hold of the Vbox this week for some testing which i will video as well.

I will post the times up.

Road was perfectly straight for the 0-100.. But for the quarter there may have been a very slight curve at the end of it.

Weather.. Night time, 28-odd degrees.. Did them in both directions.. About 4-5 runs in each car.

Had a great time doing it !

And yeah FAB looking forward to you running the car. I helped you with all the info you wanted, so I ask the quarter mile is best done at the strip for no questions asked solid times.

But then who am I!

Hope I answered your queries.

[chylld]

interesting results rexman. what were the actual 400m times? did you try with only one person in the car? how much do you guys weigh?

can i just say that as an outside observer with no vested interest in either vw or apr, you sound like you're having a case of sour grapes. someone claims to have gotten a better time than you, and you don't believe it because you can't match their results. "i can't do it, so therefore you can't do it either."

also implying that you can't have a "porsche for $65k" is ironic naivety at its best. if you even have half a drop of knowledge about WRXs (as your handle suggests) you would know that 0-100 in 4.3s is very easily achievable for under $65k.

your results are the limits of what you could achieve with your skills and your equipment in your environment. don't go imposing your limits on other people just for the sake of your pride.

[Fab_R]

Road was perfectly straight for the 0-100.. But for the quarter there may have been a very slight curve at the end of it.

Weather.. Night time, 28-odd degrees.. Did them in both directions.. About 4-5 runs in each car.

Had a great time doing it !

And yeah FAB looking forward to you running the car. I helped you with all the info you wanted, so I ask the quarter mile is best done at the strip for no questions asked solid times.

But then who am I!

Hope I answered your queries.

Thanks for the info REXman, not bad figures considering the temp mate.

Having an extra body on board does make a significant difference as well as the temp.

Re the 1/4 times, of course mate

[REXman]

interesting results rexman. what were the actual 400m times? did you try with only one person in the car? how much do you guys weigh?

can i just say that as an outside observer with no vested interest in either vw or apr, you sound like you're having a case of sour grapes. someone claims to have gotten a better time than you, and you don't believe it because you can't match their results. "i can't do it, so therefore you can't do it either."

also implying that you can't have a "porsche for $65k" is ironic naivety at its best. if you even have half a drop of knowledge about WRXs (as your handle suggests) you would know that 0-100 in 4.3s is very easily achievable for under $65k.

your results are the limits of what you could achieve with your skills and your equipment in your environment. don't go imposing your limits on other people just for the sake of your pride.

I'm about 82kgs. Other guy is probably 70-75kgs.

As for sour grapes..? What the **** are you talking about...? I haven't had it done to my car (tune/APR). My car is standard golf R.

And imposing my limits? Are you serious..? Lmao. You have one guy, stg2 with 176 at the wheels. You have another guy with stg1 with 167 at the wheels. You have a standard one with 150 at the wheels. You think you can drop a 0-100 from 5.7 to 4.6 with an extra 17 KWs on board? Go for it son.

And you think my collab of info is about jealousy or spite? You think I'm trying to hurt peoples feelings? Far from it. Im a straight up person no ****ing around. I own the car myself, an R - and would buy a tune in a sec if it delivered the offered the claims.

Fab has done everything to his car and I mean the lot - stg2+. I expect a descent time from him. Dave also said FABs car feels good too.

As for WRXs.. You'll need to burn a solid 20k on a WRX to get 4.3sec as well. If not more.

But we aren't talking about WRXs either.. It's like this idiot just saw my name and started taking about WRXs being awesome to try and make all the stuff I have presented seem wrong. when it's.. Not?

And for your info I have had 4 of them. Only the MY99 wasn't a spanker.

[chylld]

I'm about 82kgs. Other guy is probably 70-75kgs.

As for sour grapes..? What the **** are you talking about...? I haven't had it done to my car (tune/APR). My car is standard golf R.

And imposing my limits? Are you serious..? Lmao. No one here has gotten solid proof of otherwise. You have one guy, stg2 with 176 at the wheels. You have another guy with stg1 with 167 at the wheels. You have a standard one with 150 at the wheels.

You think my collab of info is about jealousy or spite you moron? You think I'm trying to hurt peoples feelings? Far from it. Im a straight up person no ****ing around. I own the damn car myself, an R - and would buy a tune in a sec if it delivered the offered the claims.

Fab has done everything to his car and I mean the lot - stg2+. I expect a descent time from him we'll see though. Dave said FABs car feels good too.

As for WRXs.. You'll need to burn a solid 20k on a WRX to get 4.3sec as well.

But we aren't talking about WRXs either.. It's like this clown just saw my name and started taking about WRXs being awesome to try and make all the stuff I have presented seem different.

And for your info I have had 4 of them. Only the MY99 wasn't a spanker.

haha calm down, save your name calling for the people who are getting faster times than you and your friend

again, i'm saying that from where i'm sitting, i see a guy getting 0-100 in 4.73 and you're saying it's impossible to go faster than 5.24. half a second faster 0-100 is no insignificant amount, so either your friend's stg1 R is slow, or the other guy was cheating. you are obviously in belief of the latter.

i don't have to take an opinion to see that you're discounting the other guy's claims just because you haven't seen them first hand. even if he is cheating, and 4.73 is impossible in good conditions on a flat road, it does not rule out any other time faster than 5.24.

this is besides the point though. did you try with only one person in the car? if you went to the trouble of organising a suitable location for timing 0-100 runs, surely one of you would have realised it would be faster with only 1 person on board?

it really sounds like you guys all need to hit the drags together as a group. (although i can't remember if the 4.73 guy was in sydney or not - his handle escapes me for now)

[Corey_R]

Road was perfectly straight for the 0-100.. But for the quarter there may have been a very slight curve at the end of it.

Weather.. Night time, 28-odd degrees.. Did them in both directions.. About 4-5 runs in each car.

Had a great time doing it !

Hmmm - disagree with the road perfectly straight - the entire road was a very long curve. Also, there was a merge to the right during the 0 to 100. Plus the pavement was concrete(?) and lots of sand at the shoulders - who knows how much blows across onto the pavement.

The Stage 1 car in the same temp conditions, fuller tank (by about 150km), but only 1 person in the car managed a 4.82 the night before on smooth ashpalt pavement. It was preceeded by a 4.96 in the opposite direction. The interesting thing about that was the 4.96 was on the slightly downhill and the following run was slightly up hill but was a better time. Even earlier, than those two runs, on similar pavement to the runs REXman was referring to, it did a 5.09.

The problem is that there wasn't a stock R to compare...


When is the next WSID meet? I think a bunch of us just need to go down there on the same night