Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[SilvrFoxX]

Damn... And here I thought the VW colour selection was boring!
Subaru need to fix that FAST! Too many Subaru owners are buying VW's

sif the colour is the real issue

[REXman]

That was due to VW Corporate Plus and working for the largest multi national professional services organisation, they were very keen to do business with me!

That sounds like a jolly good time your having, but if your buying a golf Im guessing your not the CEO yet

Anyone on the street can get a deal that rips the corporate deals anyway. Just like I, and many others did.

[Finance_Analyst]

if your buying a golf Im guessing your not the CEO yet

Yes you are correct - only a 'lowly' analyst.... If I do become CEO/Equity Partner, I will buy my R8 (but still keep the GTI so people don't know how much I am charging )

Anyone on the street can get a deal that rips the corporate deals anyway. Just like I, and many others did

Yes I have heard... But on a $40k-$50k car, the profit margins are skinny so my circa 12% discount I imagined would not be bettered by much...

In any event, these discounts are slowly becoming less and less - you can't even get one on a Polo GTI or Golf GTI Adidas I was told..

[Cookie28]

And the RS3.. well there I agree and that is just a different kind of beast to the S3 and R.

In saying that, its not the best value proposition in Australia. Over $100K for a car which is a hyped up R/S3.

In Australia, car prices being what they are, (inflated compared to the rest of the world), I think once you have around the $100K+ money to spend on a car.. you look at getting something real nice like a 3-series Coupe/Mercedes Benz C-Class and beyond.. not a little hatch that goes hard.

An R + an S3 = an RS3

[Finance_Analyst]

Subaru need to fix that FAST! Too many Subaru owners are buying VW's

Yes that is right - I use to have a 2006 3.0R Liberty. Great car, but cost me a kidney and half an arm in servicing.

When I was a younger chap, most subies were WRC blue as oppose to silver.... Not sure what happened to all those cars now....

[furiousgibbon]

That was due to VW Corporate Plus and working for the largest multi national professional services organisation, they were very keen to do business with me! I understand that corporate discounts are now lower than 10-12%, depending on the dealer.

hrm. I also work for one of the largest global organisations, one that likely supports a good portion of VW's business. It got me jack sht. One dealership gave me a corporate discount that was basically an insult, the other was no better than I would've got walking off the street in boardies and smelling like weed. Far less than 10%. I took it because I was in a hurry and needed the car by a certain date, but if I had my chance again I wouldn't even mention what company I work for.

Anyway, to be on topic, I'm nearing 3,000km on the GTI and while I would like a bit more power, I am seriously impressed with how composed it is considering it's FWD. Even with the rain the last few days, gentle throttle off the line, quickly progressing to WOT and holding it there is done with no fuss, no loss of traction. The electronic 'LSD' actually works and the traction control program is non-intrusive; when it works it does so without cutting throttle or anything annoying.

If I was going to mod the car (I'm not) it would fairly quickly overpower the fronts but the way the car comes it's just spot on. It might not be blazing fast, but paired with DSG it's a rapid point to point car. If I was going to choose between Golf R or Scirocco (aside from styling or practicality), I'd go the Golf, especially if mods were on the list. But in stock, detuned 188kW form, I think AWD is nearly redundant. My other car is FWD with big torque (nearing 500Nm) and Quaife LSD and only wet tarmac defeats it.

I'm counting on VW to release an AWD 5 cylinder rocket that can make my dreams come true.

[Mariani]

Random question - is Rising Blue on the Golf R the same blue as the Octavia RS?

[SilvrFoxX]

But in stock, detuned 188kW form, I think AWD is nearly redundant. My other car is FWD with big torque (nearing 500Nm) and Quaife LSD and only wet tarmac defeats it.

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Have to disagree.. having driven both the GTI and the R AWD was the decision maker.

[Corey_R]

Random question - is Rising Blue on the Golf R the same blue as the Octavia RS?

No.
The blue on the Octavia RS is called "Race Blue Metallic". Whilst they're both metallic blues, they're not the same.

[dave_r]

After nearly 1500 posts, the only reason needed on why an R is better than a GTI is that comes in Rising Blue

[ethosguy]

I'm counting on VW to release an AWD 5 cylinder rocket that can make my dreams come true.

You don't reckon brand differentiation, niche marketing blah-de-blah, 'Quattro' nostalgia has your wettie wrapped up in 4 rings AKA RS3?

[dave_r]

You don't reckon brand differentiation, niche marketing blah-de-blah, 'Quattro' nostalgia has your wettie wrapped up in 4 rings AKA RS3?

Could use the same arguement for the R/S3.

At least if there was a VW variant of the RS3, it wouldn't be so bloody overpriced. Seriously which idiot is going to pay that much for an A3 about to be replaced regardless of the drivetrain?

[furiousgibbon]

You don't reckon brand differentiation, niche marketing blah-de-blah, 'Quattro' nostalgia has your wettie wrapped up in 4 rings AKA RS3?

Cost. Volkswagen could give me what I want for under $60k, Audi can't.

Also, if I was going to go insane and pay what they're asking for an RS3, I'd want a manual gearbox.

[hooba]

Have to disagree.. having driven both the GTI and the R AWD was the decision maker.

See the following for how the Mk6 chassis copes with R power with FWD only.

After nearly 1500 posts, the only reason needed on why an R is better than a GTI is that comes in Rising Blue

Too true!

[Mariani]

After nearly 1500 posts, the only reason needed on why an R is better than a GTI is that comes in Rising Blue

Hahaha I must admit, it's a mad colour. Looks awesome!